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TMS
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6/25/2010  3:39 PM
"with the 32nd pick in the 2010 NBA Draft, the Miami Heat select Dexter Pittman, Center from Texas University."

Knicks' scout: "Hey guys, that kid Hassan Whiteside is still on the board... should we trade up & grab him?"
MDA: "Can he shoot 3's?"
Knicks' scout: "No, but he's got size and blocks a ton of shots in the middle. We could use a shotblocker, no? What do you think Donnie?"
DW: *zzz* *snores*
Knicks' scout: "Nevermind."

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"with the 37th pick in the 2010 NBA Draft, the Milwaukee Bucks select Darrington Hobson, Small Foward from The University of New Mexico."

Knicks' scout: "Our turn next guys. Let's see who's left on the board. Lance Stephenson. Jarvis Varnado. Gani Lawal. Anyone jumping out at you here?"
MDA: "Can any of those guys shoot 3's?"
Knicks' scout: "Not really, but we could use some size in our frontcourt in case we miss out on Bosh & Amare next week and David signs someplace else. Plus that kid Varnado is supposed to be a shotblocking machine."
MDA: "Not interested."
Knicks' scout: "Alright then. Somebody wake Donnie up, it's almost our turn to pick."
*nudge*
DW: *zZ-* "JONATHAN BENDER!... wait, huh? What day is it??"
Knicks' scout: "Donnie, it's our turn to pick now. We need a decision here."
DW: "Ask Mike."
MDA: "I want a 3 point shooter."
DW: (to Knicks' scout) "You heard the man." (goes back to sleep)

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"with the 38th pick in the 2010 NBA Draft, the New York Knicks select Andy Rautins, Shooting Guard from Syracuse University"

MDA: "Wait, can this kid shoot 3's?"
Knicks' scout: "I believe so, yes."
MDA: "Sweet."
Knicks' scout: "We're still on the clock Donnie... Donnie?... DONNIE!!"
DW: *snore-* "OK, GIVE THEM THE PICKS!!!... wait, where am I?"
Knicks' scout: "Donnie, we got 1 more pick left. Who do you want here?"
DW: "Ask Mike." *snore*
Knicks' scout: *sigh*

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6/25/2010  3:43 PM
Funniest thing I've ever read in my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F'in HYSTERICAL bro!!!
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6/25/2010  6:55 PM
LOL. The sad part is that it is probably closer to the truth than any of us would dare dream.

This was a terrible draft for us.

Trust the Process
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6/25/2010  7:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/25/2010  7:37 PM
TheGame wrote:LOL. The sad part is that it is probably closer to the truth than any of us would dare dream.

This was a terrible draft for us.

That's what I'm beginning to believe..

And you're right bro, this was a terrible draft for us. We should've been able to do so much more with less and we wiffed..
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6/25/2010  7:54 PM
it's amazing to me that after 2 years & 4 draft pick opportunities where we've had to address our 2 biggest needs in the draft, we still haven't been able to do it... just unbelievable.
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6/25/2010  7:58 PM
TMS wrote:it's amazing to me that after 2 years & 4 draft pick opportunities where we've had to address our 2 biggest needs in the draft, we still haven't been able to do it... just unbelievable.

Word. It's crazy...And to think Donnie talked about getting a shot-blocker leading up to the draft..Looks like he did land Jerome Jordan who had decent shot-blocking numbers for Tulsa esp. a couple of years ago...But I hear ya...
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6/25/2010  8:19 PM
Finestrg wrote:
TMS wrote:it's amazing to me that after 2 years & 4 draft pick opportunities where we've had to address our 2 biggest needs in the draft, we still haven't been able to do it... just unbelievable.

Word. It's crazy...And to think Donnie talked about getting a shot-blocker leading up to the draft..Looks like he did land Jerome Jordan who had decent shot-blocking numbers for Tulsa esp. a couple of years ago...But I hear ya...

i thought that Jerome Jordan deal is contingent upon Corey Maggette passing his physical Monday in Milwaukee?... but assuming he does, i'm good with us picking up a 7 footer with a bought pick, but i mean you got a shotblocking stud like Varnado & a rebounding beast like Gani Lawal both staring you in the face & instead we go & pick up another perimeter shooter? there really doesn't seem to be any importance being placed on team balance, this management team is so infatuated with guys that can shoot the ball to run SSOL we seem to completely ignore other areas that need to be addressed & have needed to be addressed for a while now... right now who is going to be our PF next season? does anyone know for certain at this point? Gallo, our best perimeter shooter is going to be the guy banging underneath for rebounds & putbacks??? yeah right.

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6/25/2010  9:12 PM
TMS wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
TMS wrote:it's amazing to me that after 2 years & 4 draft pick opportunities where we've had to address our 2 biggest needs in the draft, we still haven't been able to do it... just unbelievable.

Word. It's crazy...And to think Donnie talked about getting a shot-blocker leading up to the draft..Looks like he did land Jerome Jordan who had decent shot-blocking numbers for Tulsa esp. a couple of years ago...But I hear ya...

i thought that Jerome Jordan deal is contingent upon Corey Maggette passing his physical Monday in Milwaukee?... but assuming he does, i'm good with us picking up a 7 footer with a bought pick, but i mean you got a shotblocking stud like Varnado & a rebounding beast like Gani Lawal both staring you in the face & instead we go & pick up another perimeter shooter? there really doesn't seem to be any importance being placed on team balance, this management team is so infatuated with guys that can shoot the ball to run SSOL we seem to completely ignore other areas that need to be addressed & have needed to be addressed for a while now... right now who is going to be our PF next season? does anyone know for certain at this point? Gallo, our best perimeter shooter is going to be the guy banging underneath for rebounds & putbacks??? yeah right.

i think donnie learned a lesson the hard way last year. got mda hill and darko who could have given him 12 big-man fouls a game, plus whatever they could block, rebound and put back in. and mda wanted nothing to do with it. so i think donnie didn’t want to go through that again.
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6/25/2010  9:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/25/2010  9:18 PM
Marv wrote:
TMS wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
TMS wrote:it's amazing to me that after 2 years & 4 draft pick opportunities where we've had to address our 2 biggest needs in the draft, we still haven't been able to do it... just unbelievable.

Word. It's crazy...And to think Donnie talked about getting a shot-blocker leading up to the draft..Looks like he did land Jerome Jordan who had decent shot-blocking numbers for Tulsa esp. a couple of years ago...But I hear ya...

i thought that Jerome Jordan deal is contingent upon Corey Maggette passing his physical Monday in Milwaukee?... but assuming he does, i'm good with us picking up a 7 footer with a bought pick, but i mean you got a shotblocking stud like Varnado & a rebounding beast like Gani Lawal both staring you in the face & instead we go & pick up another perimeter shooter? there really doesn't seem to be any importance being placed on team balance, this management team is so infatuated with guys that can shoot the ball to run SSOL we seem to completely ignore other areas that need to be addressed & have needed to be addressed for a while now... right now who is going to be our PF next season? does anyone know for certain at this point? Gallo, our best perimeter shooter is going to be the guy banging underneath for rebounds & putbacks??? yeah right.

i think donnie learned a lesson the hard way last year. got mda hill and darko who could have given him 12 big-man fouls a game, plus whatever they could block, rebound and put back in. and mda wanted nothing to do with it. so i think donnie didn’t want to go through that again.

I agree, yet they go out and get this kid Jerome Jordan. If they really do bring him in (contigent on Corey Maggette passing his physical) don't jerk this kid off the way you did Jordan Hill -- play him!
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6/25/2010  9:23 PM
lol
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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6/25/2010  9:27 PM
Finestrg wrote:
Marv wrote:
TMS wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
TMS wrote:it's amazing to me that after 2 years & 4 draft pick opportunities where we've had to address our 2 biggest needs in the draft, we still haven't been able to do it... just unbelievable.

Word. It's crazy...And to think Donnie talked about getting a shot-blocker leading up to the draft..Looks like he did land Jerome Jordan who had decent shot-blocking numbers for Tulsa esp. a couple of years ago...But I hear ya...

i thought that Jerome Jordan deal is contingent upon Corey Maggette passing his physical Monday in Milwaukee?... but assuming he does, i'm good with us picking up a 7 footer with a bought pick, but i mean you got a shotblocking stud like Varnado & a rebounding beast like Gani Lawal both staring you in the face & instead we go & pick up another perimeter shooter? there really doesn't seem to be any importance being placed on team balance, this management team is so infatuated with guys that can shoot the ball to run SSOL we seem to completely ignore other areas that need to be addressed & have needed to be addressed for a while now... right now who is going to be our PF next season? does anyone know for certain at this point? Gallo, our best perimeter shooter is going to be the guy banging underneath for rebounds & putbacks??? yeah right.

i think donnie learned a lesson the hard way last year. got mda hill and darko who could have given him 12 big-man fouls a game, plus whatever they could block, rebound and put back in. and mda wanted nothing to do with it. so i think donnie didn’t want to go through that again.

I agree, yet they go out and get this kid Jerome Jordan. If they really do bring him in (contigent on Corey Maggette passing his physical) don't jerk this kid off the way you did Jordan Hill -- play him!

I don't think Jordan Hill got jerked off.

If he did, he would have left here very happy.

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6/25/2010  9:28 PM
i agree with u Marv. i tend to put this more on MDA at this point cuz like u said DW tried to address those issues last year to no avails. all i know is we better sign a stud bigman next week who can plug our obvious hole along with someone who can orchestrate this offense, otherwise get ready for more of the same catch, launch and pray style of play in 2010.
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6/25/2010  9:32 PM
TMS wrote:i agree with u Marv. i tend to put this more on MDA at this point cuz like u said DW tried to address those issues last year to no avails. all i know is we better sign a stud bigman next week who can plug our obvious hole along with someone who can orchestrate this offense, otherwise get ready for more of the same catch, launch and pray style of play in 2010.

Catch, LAunch and Pray

yup. we got the CLAP.
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6/25/2010  10:25 PM
Marv wrote:
TMS wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
TMS wrote:it's amazing to me that after 2 years & 4 draft pick opportunities where we've had to address our 2 biggest needs in the draft, we still haven't been able to do it... just unbelievable.

Word. It's crazy...And to think Donnie talked about getting a shot-blocker leading up to the draft..Looks like he did land Jerome Jordan who had decent shot-blocking numbers for Tulsa esp. a couple of years ago...But I hear ya...

i thought that Jerome Jordan deal is contingent upon Corey Maggette passing his physical Monday in Milwaukee?... but assuming he does, i'm good with us picking up a 7 footer with a bought pick, but i mean you got a shotblocking stud like Varnado & a rebounding beast like Gani Lawal both staring you in the face & instead we go & pick up another perimeter shooter? there really doesn't seem to be any importance being placed on team balance, this management team is so infatuated with guys that can shoot the ball to run SSOL we seem to completely ignore other areas that need to be addressed & have needed to be addressed for a while now... right now who is going to be our PF next season? does anyone know for certain at this point? Gallo, our best perimeter shooter is going to be the guy banging underneath for rebounds & putbacks??? yeah right.

i think donnie learned a lesson the hard way last year. got mda hill and darko who could have given him 12 big-man fouls a game, plus whatever they could block, rebound and put back in. and mda wanted nothing to do with it. so i think donnie didn’t want to go through that again.

I agree. I am starting to wonder if Donnie is a guy that can get things done but does what the coach wants. In Indiana, Bird has been the constant. Indiana continues to go for the same type of players they did when Walsh was in place but they have not been as successful with their moves. I am starting to think Walsh was just getting guys that fit what Bird wanted. He definitely is doing that in NY. Right now the big to target has to be Barron because he at least got to play for D'Antoni.
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6/25/2010  10:35 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Marv wrote:
TMS wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
TMS wrote:it's amazing to me that after 2 years & 4 draft pick opportunities where we've had to address our 2 biggest needs in the draft, we still haven't been able to do it... just unbelievable.

Word. It's crazy...And to think Donnie talked about getting a shot-blocker leading up to the draft..Looks like he did land Jerome Jordan who had decent shot-blocking numbers for Tulsa esp. a couple of years ago...But I hear ya...

i thought that Jerome Jordan deal is contingent upon Corey Maggette passing his physical Monday in Milwaukee?... but assuming he does, i'm good with us picking up a 7 footer with a bought pick, but i mean you got a shotblocking stud like Varnado & a rebounding beast like Gani Lawal both staring you in the face & instead we go & pick up another perimeter shooter? there really doesn't seem to be any importance being placed on team balance, this management team is so infatuated with guys that can shoot the ball to run SSOL we seem to completely ignore other areas that need to be addressed & have needed to be addressed for a while now... right now who is going to be our PF next season? does anyone know for certain at this point? Gallo, our best perimeter shooter is going to be the guy banging underneath for rebounds & putbacks??? yeah right.

i think donnie learned a lesson the hard way last year. got mda hill and darko who could have given him 12 big-man fouls a game, plus whatever they could block, rebound and put back in. and mda wanted nothing to do with it. so i think donnie didn’t want to go through that again.

I agree. I am starting to wonder if Donnie is a guy that can get things done but does what the coach wants. In Indiana, Bird has been the constant. Indiana continues to go for the same type of players they did when Walsh was in place but they have not been as successful with their moves. I am starting to think Walsh was just getting guys that fit what Bird wanted. He definitely is doing that in NY. Right now the big to target has to be Barron because he at least got to play for D'Antoni.

Bird didn't show up in Indiana until 1998. Donnie built that team well before Bird ever got there. He drafted Miller, Smits, the Davises, Detlef Schrempf (who Larry Brown demanded to be traded for Derrick McKey), traded for Mark Jackson, etc.

The Pacers were Walsh's team through and through. In the 2000s Bird and Isiah took more control and the wheels started coming off.

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6/26/2010  11:08 AM
crzymdups wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Marv wrote:
TMS wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
TMS wrote:it's amazing to me that after 2 years & 4 draft pick opportunities where we've had to address our 2 biggest needs in the draft, we still haven't been able to do it... just unbelievable.

Word. It's crazy...And to think Donnie talked about getting a shot-blocker leading up to the draft..Looks like he did land Jerome Jordan who had decent shot-blocking numbers for Tulsa esp. a couple of years ago...But I hear ya...

i thought that Jerome Jordan deal is contingent upon Corey Maggette passing his physical Monday in Milwaukee?... but assuming he does, i'm good with us picking up a 7 footer with a bought pick, but i mean you got a shotblocking stud like Varnado & a rebounding beast like Gani Lawal both staring you in the face & instead we go & pick up another perimeter shooter? there really doesn't seem to be any importance being placed on team balance, this management team is so infatuated with guys that can shoot the ball to run SSOL we seem to completely ignore other areas that need to be addressed & have needed to be addressed for a while now... right now who is going to be our PF next season? does anyone know for certain at this point? Gallo, our best perimeter shooter is going to be the guy banging underneath for rebounds & putbacks??? yeah right.

i think donnie learned a lesson the hard way last year. got mda hill and darko who could have given him 12 big-man fouls a game, plus whatever they could block, rebound and put back in. and mda wanted nothing to do with it. so i think donnie didn’t want to go through that again.

I agree. I am starting to wonder if Donnie is a guy that can get things done but does what the coach wants. In Indiana, Bird has been the constant. Indiana continues to go for the same type of players they did when Walsh was in place but they have not been as successful with their moves. I am starting to think Walsh was just getting guys that fit what Bird wanted. He definitely is doing that in NY. Right now the big to target has to be Barron because he at least got to play for D'Antoni.

Bird didn't show up in Indiana until 1998. Donnie built that team well before Bird ever got there. He drafted Miller, Smits, the Davises, Detlef Schrempf (who Larry Brown demanded to be traded for Derrick McKey), traded for Mark Jackson, etc.

The Pacers were Walsh's team through and through. In the 2000s Bird and Isiah took more control and the wheels started coming off.

You are right. I am just searching for away to make sense of what has been happening with the team this past year and especially after Thursday night.
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6/26/2010  1:57 PM
Marv wrote:
TMS wrote:i agree with u Marv. i tend to put this more on MDA at this point cuz like u said DW tried to address those issues last year to no avails. all i know is we better sign a stud bigman next week who can plug our obvious hole along with someone who can orchestrate this offense, otherwise get ready for more of the same catch, launch and pray style of play in 2010.

Catch, LAunch and Pray

yup. we got the CLAP.

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