martin wrote:Here's what I don't get: Why does espn say that Miami has $43M in cap space? Wouldn't Wade have a hold of at least $16 (56-16=40)?

And Miami does not have room for 3 MAX players. All those idiots at ESPN should be fired. Biggest free agency in history and they are giving false information.

Childs2Dudley wrote:All they have to do is trade James Johnson for a future 2nd round pick. You're in denial if you're making a big stink over $3 million. The Bulls will get that $3 million if need be.

Not quite.

Luol Deng	$11.35 
Derrick Rose	$5.56 
Joakim Noah	$3.10 
James Johnson	$1.70 
Taj Gibson	$1.10 
Player Holds(7)	$3.325
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Total:		$26.14 
After 1 max:	$13.17   <--- this is what they can offer second free agent

Without James JOhnson:
Luol Deng	$11.35 
Derrick Rose	$5.56 
Joakim Noah	$3.10 
Taj Gibson	$1.10 
Player Holds(8)	$3.80 
-------------------------	
Total:		$24.91 
After 1 max:	$14.39  <--- this is what they can offer second free agent

crzymdups wrote:yeah, it's infuriating that ESPN is acting like the Bulls can sign two max players and then doesn't even mention the knicks. par for the course, i guess.

i have a feeling the Bulls get Lebron and then get Joe Johnson for around $13-14M.

I think the Knicks still have a chance at Bosh, but Miami has to be the favorite there.

this is certainly a possibility, but it doesn't really make sense from a player chemistry perspective. All 3 guys - LeBron, JJ, Rose - like the ball in their hands and Luol Deng is a SF, right? Plus, they would be mighty thin up front.

crzymdups wrote:

martin wrote:

crzymdups wrote:yeah, it's infuriating that ESPN is acting like the Bulls can sign two max players and then doesn't even mention the knicks. par for the course, i guess.

i have a feeling the Bulls get Lebron and then get Joe Johnson for around $13-14M.

I think the Knicks still have a chance at Bosh, but Miami has to be the favorite there.

this is certainly a possibility, but it doesn't really make sense from a player chemistry perspective. All 3 guys - LeBron, JJ, Rose - like the ball in their hands and Luol Deng is a SF, right? Plus, they would be mighty thin up front.

True.

I wonder if they try to bring back Tyson Chandler instead?

Though, if Cleveland accepts Luol Deng straight-up in a S&T for Bron, obviously the floodgates open and Chicago would have $22-24M in cap room AFTER signing Bron.

Absolutely. But CLE would have to agree to the trade... would they demand more back?

martin wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

martin wrote:

crzymdups wrote:yeah, it's infuriating that ESPN is acting like the Bulls can sign two max players and then doesn't even mention the knicks. par for the course, i guess.

i have a feeling the Bulls get Lebron and then get Joe Johnson for around $13-14M.

I think the Knicks still have a chance at Bosh, but Miami has to be the favorite there.

this is certainly a possibility, but it doesn't really make sense from a player chemistry perspective. All 3 guys - LeBron, JJ, Rose - like the ball in their hands and Luol Deng is a SF, right? Plus, they would be mighty thin up front.

True.

I wonder if they try to bring back Tyson Chandler instead?

Though, if Cleveland accepts Luol Deng straight-up in a S&T for Bron, obviously the floodgates open and Chicago would have $22-24M in cap room AFTER signing Bron.

Absolutely. But CLE would have to agree to the trade... would they demand more back?

if i'm cleveland, and chicago is stealing lebron james, i tell chicago to go F themselves... i have no idea how they'd react though. deng doesn't have a great contract... who knows?

martin wrote:

crzymdups wrote:yeah, it's infuriating that ESPN is acting like the Bulls can sign two max players and then doesn't even mention the knicks. par for the course, i guess.

i have a feeling the Bulls get Lebron and then get Joe Johnson for around $13-14M.

I think the Knicks still have a chance at Bosh, but Miami has to be the favorite there.

this is certainly a possibility, but it doesn't really make sense from a player chemistry perspective. All 3 guys - LeBron, JJ, Rose - like the ball in their hands and Luol Deng is a SF, right? Plus, they would be mighty thin up front.

though talking to several Bulls fans i know - they believe the management has made signing joe johnson a priority on july 1. probably to go along with lebron? i guess?

so who knows? maybe maverick carter will be named the new bulls GM. who the heck can say.

martin wrote:...it doesn't really make sense from a player chemistry perspective. All 3 guys - LeBron, JJ, Rose - like the ball in their hands and Luol Deng is a SF, right? Plus, they would be mighty thin up front.

I could see Johnson being OK with becoming a Ray Allen type player, but I think that Rose and LeBron need the ball to develop the kind of "flow" in their game which allows them to reach their optimum level of play. Noah and Gibson would have a good time playing complimentary roles, though.

A team of Wade, James, and Bosh would have similar chemistry issues, I think.