Curry/Chandler in a deal for Parker
Curry/Chandler/Douglas for Bosh and Calderon
Curry/Chandler for OK4 and Collison
Curry for OK4

A lot of people are mixed about getting OK4 because of his contract but he's one of the best defensive bigs in the league and no question helps you win a championship if you have guys like Lebron and Bosh. He's been very durable, and although might not fit the offense, he is pretty athletic and fits better than Shaq did in phx a couple years back.

This isn't the best deal on the table, but probably one of the more likely. Then we buy a 1st rounder and take Hobson or Brackins, and use the 2nd rounders on a point and another big.

In july sign lebron and sign and trade lee for bosh. Then sign Shaq if he wants to come for the minimum for depth.

C OK4, Shaq, Barron
PF Bosh, 2nd rounder
SF Gallo, Chandler, Hobson
SG James, Walker
PG Douglas, 2nd rounder

Or if you can expand the NOH deal to curry/Chandler for ok4/Collison then you have even more depth at the point.

So what do you think is going to happen on draft day?

Knixkik wrote:Looks like Donnie is trying to do something big which is a great idea because it sets things up a little before july rolls around. Seems like the most common trade possibilities are

Curry/Chandler in a deal for Parker

I just dont think that the Spurs would do anything near this swap. Curry and Parker are both in the last year of their deals and Chandler doubles up a position that they already have in Jefferson. Perhaps if the Spurs thought that Tiago was not coming over and the Knicks subbed in Lee for Curry (after July 1), then maybe. But I think the Spurs ideal situation is to remove Parker and Jefferson for salary cap space (to sign Tiago), and get a low salary player or 2 who would contribute.

TMS wrote:

Vmart wrote:You guys do know that Ok4 is 6'8''-6'9'' max. He is to small you can't win with a small C like that.

in general i'd agree with that but the Pistons won with a 6'7" Ben Wallace in the middle... yes he had Rasheed playing with him, but that team showed that you can win if you play excellent team defense & have some talented shotmakers on the perimeter.

You beat me to the punch...I was just about to mention Ben Wallace. Also, Mourning was a tremendous defender/shotblocker and played center his entire career at 6'9.

Paladin55 wrote:

TMS wrote:

Vmart wrote:You guys do know that Ok4 is 6'8''-6'9'' max. He is to small you can't win with a small C like that.

in general i'd agree with that but the Pistons won with a 6'7" Ben Wallace in the middle... yes he had Rasheed playing with him, but that team showed that you can win if you play excellent team defense & have some talented shotmakers on the perimeter.

C OK4, Shaq, Barron
PF Bosh, 2nd rounder
SF Gallo, Chandler, Hobson
SG James, Walker
PG Douglas, 2nd rounder

The lineup above also has Bosh at PF and Gallo at SF- both coming in at 6'11", and James is 6'7"/8" and a good shot blocker and rebounder. Barron, Hobson, Walker, and any big man we draft or sign, makes this a nice sized group. If this lineup was to be the one we go to battle with next season, it is a pretty solid lineup in terms of overall size.

if we end up with that roster i'd be ecstatic.

- Curry can not be included in any draft day trades unless he picks up his player option before June 24rth(I believe he has until June 30th likewise). There would be a stronger chance he could be included in a draft day trade more so than Bosh but his fat arse will intentionally pick his option up after the draft takes place.

- You can not pre arrange deals during the draft for things to take place in Free Agency. As in convince Curry to manipulate his option(agree to a pre arranged buyout amount post trade etc etc) to consummate a trade post draft or us talking to Colangelo about selecting players we may be interested in or Vice Versa.... Colangelo talking to our Gm about players they may be interested in. This can be done if we're trading picks for picks(present or future) or for players currently under contract.

- Only players under an existing contract can be traded on draft day... Free Agents can not.

- Rookies selected in the draft can have their rights traded at anytime as long us they are unsigned. If they are signed however, whenever it takes place.... they can't be traded until 30 days after signing the contract.

When you think about it I mean how many players heading into Free Agency have ever been traded on draft Day?

Otherwise bad teams with poor cap situations would gut their rosters as much as possible on draft day....load up with prospects and acquire cap space come July. Gotta be a bit more realistic with how we think things could/want them to play out

SupremeCommander wrote:I am against trading Curry for Okafor until the Knicks make two major acquisitions... I don't want to commit to that contract until the other pieces are in place. Otherwise, I'd rather wait for Curry to expire.

I agree with your assessment. Keep curry and let him expire that ending contract can yield better than OK4. People here are on the band wagon for another small C. Can't do it. He will get eaten up by bigger Centers. I don't buy this Wallace comparison or Mourning comparison. Emeka is just to small to be a C. He doesn't bring it like those two on the defensive end. Mourning was 6'9'' barefoot In shoes he was close to 6'10.5'' he was a beast on the offensive end as well as defense can't say that about OK4. If you have championship aspiration you can't get away with playing a small Center.

Vmart wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I am against trading Curry for Okafor until the Knicks make two major acquisitions... I don't want to commit to that contract until the other pieces are in place. Otherwise, I'd rather wait for Curry to expire.

I agree with your assessment. Keep curry and let him expire that ending contract can yield better than OK4. People here are on the band wagon for another small C. Can't do it. He will get eaten up by bigger Centers. I don't buy this Wallace comparison or Mourning comparison. Emeka is just to small to be a C. He doesn't bring it like those two on the defensive end. Mourning was 6'9'' barefoot In shoes he was close to 6'10.5'' he was a beast on the offensive end as well as defense can't say that about OK4. If you have championship aspiration you can't get away with playing a small Center.

I think that our original discussions about Curry for OK4 always included Collison, who was seen as our PG answer. Makes some sense given that Paul's age is close to Collison's, he is signed for another 3 years, and they play the same position. Whether NO feels they are giving up to much (Collison) to get Curry's expiring, and give up OK4's contract is another thing.

Vmart wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

Vmart wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I am against trading Curry for Okafor until the Knicks make two major acquisitions... I don't want to commit to that contract until the other pieces are in place. Otherwise, I'd rather wait for Curry to expire.

I agree with your assessment. Keep curry and let him expire that ending contract can yield better than OK4. People here are on the band wagon for another small C. Can't do it. He will get eaten up by bigger Centers. I don't buy this Wallace comparison or Mourning comparison. Emeka is just to small to be a C. He doesn't bring it like those two on the defensive end. Mourning was 6'9'' barefoot In shoes he was close to 6'10.5'' he was a beast on the offensive end as well as defense can't say that about OK4. If you have championship aspiration you can't get away with playing a small Center.

I think that our original discussions about Curry for OK4 always included Collison, who was seen as our PG answer. Makes some sense given that Paul's age is close to Collison's, he is signed for another 3 years, and they play the same position. Whether NO feels they are giving up to much (Collison) to get Curry's expiring, and give up OK4's contract is another thing.

Why is everyone here sold on Collison. I wouldn't touch OK4 contract not even if Collison is involved. Now if you are telling me Paul then I'm on board.

CP3 when healthy is the best PG in the league, we're not getting Paul. Collison last season in 37 starts averaged 19 pts, 9 ast on 48.5% from the field, 43% from downtown, as a rookie. A lot to like. I'd love Collison here but they can get a lot more for him than we can offer

iSergio wrote:

Vmart wrote:You guys do know that Ok4 is 6'8''-6'9'' max. He is to small you can't win with a small C like that.

Emeka Okafor is a legit 6'10". Same size as Kendrick Perkins. It's not about height anyway. It's about skill. Okafor is a very solid interior defender. Heck, Channing Frye is 7' tall. Is he more of a true Center than Okafor?

His contract is not a friendly deal. I don't want to be stuck with OK4. No thank you. Get me a legit 7' player on the cheap and keep Curry let him expire as for Collison I'll pass on him. We have Douglass who will give the same