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Chris Bosh still has Knicks in high rankings, regardless of Lebron-less James
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DJMUSIC
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6/19/2010  1:34 AM
Yep

I'd sure like LBJ but whom knows ?

I think Knicks getting Chris Bosh is a vast improvement and we move on from there.
Bosh hasnt put the Knicks down and is making remarks like he'd be crazy not to want
to play here.

Chris Bosh still likes NY
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/bosh_free_agents_laying_low_9MXOv35Wgnsathgz1M4whI

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6/19/2010  1:40 AM
I really dont buy that hes coming here without LeBron. Its smart of him though to keep all potential options and suitors open though, and the closer we get to FA he realizes that. Remember a few months back he completely shot down any notion of going to the Nets, and now hes even hyping them and the new owner up. It's in his best interest to keep as many options open as possible.
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6/19/2010  1:50 AM
KnicksSince88 wrote:I really dont buy that hes coming here without LeBron. Its smart of him though to keep all potential options and suitors open though, and the closer we get to FA he realizes that. Remember a few months back he completely shot down any notion of going to the Nets, and now hes even hyping them and the new owner up. It's in his best interest to keep as many options open as possible.

True
But I dont think Bosh is as hungup with playing with Wade & LBJ
as vice versa the need for LBJ and Wade to lure Bosh into what they want so they can be successful

I feel they all got egos. Sure I bet Bosh knows playing with those guys give them a chance
but he is more apt to leave Toronto than others leaving their own city/team.

What I am trying to say is I dont believe Chris Bosh is afraid to take plunge.
We know or believe LBJ or Wade isnt clear whether they have guts right to be in NY
now unless things are perfect for them.

Bosh is tire of Canada.
He is from Chicago ? and unless Chicago makes Bosh feels he is important why is he going there ?
I think Knicks are playing their cards right. They are perhaps treating getting big fish LBJ the
same as Wade, Bosh Amare. LBJ is getting extra treatment from this crap NY mayor and others in
city doing to lure James. It may work

But Bosh is in mix.
You may be right, Bosh and LBJ may end up getting deals and be Knicks after all.
Walsh hasnt tampered and all you hear about LBJ confidants getting info regarding Walsh and MDA is
a key toward seeing what Knicks are up to. Especially in Chris Bosh situation.

Bosh has to be here first before anyone like LBJ could come
Bosh made it clear he dont need LBJ decision and he also likes Broadway based on Bosh videos and
commercials to prop his image. He'll make money. Sure Bosh isnt Lebron but he is important step
and if LBJ changes his mind then NY can go after some FA 2011 and Bosh I'm sure would be down with
that.

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6/19/2010  2:06 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/19/2010  2:34 AM
DJ Im with you that Bosh is the most likely FA to leave and in fact id be shocked if he didn't. But I think the chance to win fairly big is even more important to him than it is some other FAs, because hes not gotten a lot of playoff exposure in his career, hes never won a playoff series and spent most of his career out of the playoffs entirely even in a weak east. Right now Chris Bosh is a guy who many casual NBA fans don't even know, because hes never played a game that they;ve watched. The NBA is a playoff sport, thats where guys make their names, thats when viewership peaks and player brands are made. He has to be dying for a dose of it, hes never left the first round and hardly been in it. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't link up with another max, or go to the Bulls. Id have to think at this point he is honest enough with himself to know a team is not going deep into the playoffs if hes their best player. If he comes to NY without another max, we'll be marginally better, maybe a low seed playoff team, but why would he do that if he has better chances? Bosh is going to have his pick of a lot of situations that look much better than ours without LeBron. All hes going to do is catch heat here if hes making huge money and delivering us to a 7 seed. I don't think he has a desire to be THE guy.
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6/21/2010  11:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/21/2010  11:37 AM
from RealGM:
Raptors forward Chris Bosh doesn't want to be thought of as an afterthought in the free agent sweepstakes this summer.

"I don't want to be mentioned as an addition to a team," Bosh said prior to the season. "I want to be mentioned as the guy that people want to center their team around."

Bosh hasn't changed that stance, saying recently that he's decided to distance himself from fellow free-agents-to-be such as LeBron James.

He is often mentioned as the third-best option on the market behind James and Miami's Dwyane Wade.

Toronto general manager Bryan Colangelo has admitted that he's open to a sign-and-trade involving Bosh if a new contract can be worked out.

"I'm not an addition. I'm a centerpiece," he said. "I have to have that confidence in myself, and I want people to know that, because I'm not somebody that helps out. I'm the guy you get like, 'Yo, we're going to win a championship, you're gonna take us there.'

"I want to hold onto that because I think every kid when they dream about playing basketball, they don't dream about being a role player. They dream about being the man. I have that position in Toronto and to give that up and go somewhere else to be an addition would kinda defeat the purpose of my dreams."

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67317/20100621/bosh_wants_to_be_the_man_in_free_agency/#ixzz0rVBJExXM

Bosh has a mighty big ego, too. It's not just the LBJ show. If Lebron wants to lure Bosh to play with him, they will have to play as equals. Is that even possible? Sure they will have identical contracts. But if Bosh wants to "be the man" I am not sure that's possible playing on the same team with LBJ.

Furthermore, I am pretty sure that ego <> winning in hoops (or any other sport for that matter, but especially hoops). As Riley said quite eloquently in his book on the subject, team chemistry trumps ego every time. The reason Magic BECAME the legend he did is because he finally bought into that maxim. There is no "I" in "We" and no matter how good Bosh and LBJ are individually, if they can't sacrifice ego for the sake of playing together AND making guys like Gallo better, they will fail when it matters most.

I am 100% behind signing these guys, but I really am not so sure MDA is the coach to plant that Riley-seed in their heads and get them to sacrifice ego for the greater good of multiple chips. Who is the right guy? Probably one of the Jaxes (Phil or Mark). We'll see.

What do you guys think of the problem with ego in a LBJ/Bosh tendem?

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6/21/2010  11:51 AM
MDA has proven he could coach big egos and stars as well as pump up the confidence of less talented players! He was absolutely loved by members of the Olympic team. I think there's no reason to worry about him in that area. I also think the issues of not talking to disgruntled players have been overblown. When your winning there tend to be fewer problems.
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6/21/2010  11:55 AM
I don't see this as an issue. Chris Bosh will still make the All-Star Game and All-NBA Teams playing on the same team as LeBron James.
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6/21/2010  12:51 PM
This guy is really showing what an ego he has. He isn't a great player, he is a good player. Great players always have there teams in the playoffs. Gasol is better than Bosh and he had memphis winning 50 games and going out in a much tougher western conference. He played with Kobe and now has two championships.

The need to be the man is embarrassing. Getting 17 ****ing million to play ball is a joke in itself. Sign here play with Lebron double your endorsements become a household name and start your career.

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6/21/2010  1:09 PM
MS wrote:This guy is really showing what an ego he has. He isn't a great player, he is a good player. Great players always have there teams in the playoffs. Gasol is better than Bosh and he had memphis winning 50 games and going out in a much tougher western conference. He played with Kobe and now has two championships.

The need to be the man is embarrassing. Getting 17 ****ing million to play ball is a joke in itself. Sign here play with Lebron double your endorsements become a household name and start your career.

C.Bosh isnt a big ego yet
for him to state he dont need to be 2nd fiddle means he is willing to take pressure.
I like that

We dont have that and havent had it since Ewing was here,
followed by Sprewell and Houston whom were not Ewing's equal or caliber.

All in all we (knicks) need any kind of BIGSHOT we can get.
If you tell me we cant get LBJ or Wade or similar elite stars at least this summer
I'd be more than happy with Chris Bosh.

Raptors hasnt dont anything but their team is BETTER than our Knicks.
We need to get back to being respectable and Bosh can do that for us.
We go from there

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