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CHAOS
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6/13/2010  11:56 PM
Nate Robinson is having a HUGE POSITIVE impact on the Celtics and this championship series. He is earning his ring, not just sitting on the bench, but playing and playing well.

Game 5 = 4pts and 4ast in 10 mins
Game 4 = 12pts and 3ast

For the series is is shooting 47%fg and 44% 3pt fg in 10mins per game !!!!!!

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6/13/2010  11:57 PM
You really wanted to tell us how well he's doing in 10 minutes per game......?
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6/13/2010  11:59 PM
Nate is doing great. He is in a tough spot playing behind Rondo but has looked good whenever he is on the floor. I think Van Gundy was praising him for his great point guard play and court vision.
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6/14/2010  12:01 AM
I'm happy for Nate. He is not playing better or worse than he was when he was a Knick. He is just in a situation where they don't rely on him as much, so they can pick their spots when to push the "Nate" button. When he was playing 30+mpg a a Knick we got the good the bad and the ugly. The Celtics are too good to put up with the ugly, and they can bench him when he is bad. So what is left, we only see the good nate. Good for Nate.

Nobody has to admit or own up to anything with Nate. He is who he has always been. He is not proving anyone wrong. He is just being used the right way. He is a luxury sparkplug on a good team. Good for them.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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6/14/2010  12:01 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:You really wanted to tell us how well he's doing in 10 minutes per game......?

He is playing behind Rondo so I don't think he is going to get much more than that no matter how well he plays. Interesting that time on the bench coupled with respectful communication and encouragement from the coach had a positive impact on Nate.
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6/14/2010  12:02 AM
Great for Nate
to win a nba title if it happens.

So be the Knicks to send someone else again to a team much better and can be part of a NBA title
team even as so the hated Celtics.

Knicks don't look too good here

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kam77
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6/14/2010  12:03 AM
It doesn't have anything to do with the Knicks. We have a ton of players who would be great off the bench, The problem is we were depending on them to start. Put the knick self-haterade down.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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6/14/2010  12:04 AM
Nate has made an impactful 4th quarter contribution in all 3 Celtic wins in this series
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6/14/2010  12:05 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:You really wanted to tell us how well he's doing in 10 minutes per game......?

He is playing behind Rondo so I don't think he is going to get much more than that no matter how well he plays. Interesting that time on the bench coupled with respectful communication and encouragement from the coach had a positive impact on Nate.

Ugh................

We're gonna have another Nate discussion? I thought we already established that Nate is still the same exact player. Still acts like a fool and still plays out of control. His role is a aparkplug off the bench. He's not a 6th man on a championship team. It's the role he has now - 10 to 15 minutes per game off the bench. The problem is Nate and Nate Robinson fans think he's much better than that. Too bad that's far from the truth.

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6/14/2010  12:09 AM
kam77 wrote:It doesn't have anything to do with the Knicks. We have a ton of players who would be great off the bench, The problem is we were depending on them to start. Put the knick self-haterade down.

What self hatred are you talking about ?
explain ?

I love Nate and hated to see him go to a foe in your division.
I dont care about Knicks record and not being elite if you like someone whom performed on your
team > than his abilities go to a foe come back and beat your team's tail (division) then I
dont know what to say about Knick fans

This is ridiculous! It has alot to do with Knicks. Makes the trade look even better though
B.Walker turned to be a good player for a bad knick team, but a building block if he stays as a
role player.

Good for Celtics and I dont even like em.

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6/14/2010  12:28 AM
kam77 wrote:It doesn't have anything to do with the Knicks. We have a ton of players who would be great off the bench, The problem is we were depending on them to start.

agreed.

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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6/14/2010  12:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/14/2010  12:34 AM
Game 2 road win: 7 points in the 4th quarter. Hit a huge 3 to give Boston the lead

Game 4 win: big 4th quarter with Baby to carry them home

Game 5 win: Driving layup and a couple 4th quarter assists in 4 minutes, helped hold the fort while Rondo rested and actually extended the lead by 1

He's helped them in all three 4th quarters of their wins in this series. It's not a stretch to say that minus Nate, this series could easily be 3-2 the other way. The games have been that tight and hes executed at vital points

In their 3 wins, hes actually played more combined 4th quarter minutes than Rondo.

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6/14/2010  12:38 AM
KnicksSince88 wrote:Game 2 road win: 7 points in the 4th quarter. Hit a huge 3 to give Boston the lead

Game 4 win: big 4th quarter with Baby to carry them home

Game 5 win: Driving layup and a couple 4th quarter assists in 4 minutes, helped hold the fort while Rondo rested and actually extended the lead by 1

He's helped them in all three 4th quarters of their wins in this series. It's not a stretch to say that minus Nate, this series could easily be 3-2 the other way. The games have been that tight and hes executed at vital points

In their 3 wins, hes actually played more combined 4th quarter minutes than Rondo.

It's a stretch.

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6/14/2010  12:43 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/14/2010  1:45 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
KnicksSince88 wrote:Game 2 road win: 7 points in the 4th quarter. Hit a huge 3 to give Boston the lead

Game 4 win: big 4th quarter with Baby to carry them home

Game 5 win: Driving layup and a couple 4th quarter assists in 4 minutes, helped hold the fort while Rondo rested and actually extended the lead by 1

He's helped them in all three 4th quarters of their wins in this series. It's not a stretch to say that minus Nate, this series could easily be 3-2 the other way. The games have been that tight and hes executed at vital points

In their 3 wins, hes actually played more combined 4th quarter minutes than Rondo.

It's a stretch.

No its not. Hes impacted the 4th quarter in all 3 of their wins, game 2 and 4 pretty heavily. Its not a stretch whatsoever to say the outcome of one of those games could have been different if he did not do his thing in the 4th. Game 2 that 7 point outburst was absolutely vital

Hes played 19 of a possible 36 4th quarter minutes in their 3 wins. More than Rondo. To say its a stretch that his play may have changed the outcome of at least one of these is silly. Rondo may be the MVP of this series if Boston wins, yet in their 3 wins he's been watching more than playing in the 4th quarter (of course, he does close the game out though and has in all 3). Nate has had an impact

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6/14/2010  12:47 AM
so if he is doing well, does this mean folks want him back??
GO TEAM VENTURE!!!!!
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6/14/2010  1:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/14/2010  1:55 AM
CHAOS wrote:Nate Robinson is having a HUGE POSITIVE impact on the Celtics and this championship series. He is earning his ring, not just sitting on the bench, but playing and playing well.

Game 5 = 4pts and 4ast in 10 mins
Game 4 = 12pts and 3ast

For the series is is shooting 47%fg and 44% 3pt fg in 10mins per game !!!!!!

Yeah...maybe you should write to Donnie about this guy. Maybe he can be the second MAX FA we are looking for!!


I don't think that anyone, even his biggest critics, has ever denied that Nate had/has ability.

The problem is that he is a knucklehead, who cannot play for a team without the kind of veteran leadership the Celtics have, and if given free reign, he will hurt a team more than he helps it.

Except for a few moments in this series, Nate has played under control- something quite uncharacteristic in his stay with the Knicks, and it has nothing to do with coaching styles, but all to do with "peer pressure." You may dislike the Celtics as a team or as individuals, but they have 4 strong leaders in their starting lineup who will back up their coach and put Nate in his place if he acts up.

The knicks, on the other hand, have had little, if any, leaders on the team during the years Nate played for us. We have been critical of Isiah, and Donnie for many things, but nobody has really talked about the fact that we have not acquired players in their prime with team leadership ability. A few fading vets with some playoff pedigree, and a lot of head cases, but few leaders. I love D. Lee for a lot of things, but as far as leading and controlling a team- he has shown little ability.

I think that Gallo and Douglas have leadership capabilities, but they are both too young at this point to control a guy like Nate. In fact we are better off without a guy like Nate to influence the younger players on the team.

I always thought that Nate had the raw ability, even with his size limitation, to be a fine PG in this league. Still do, to some extent, but to get too excited over a few games with the Celtics and close your eyes to the way he performed in 5 years with the Knicks shows me a disquieting lack of perspective and understanding of basketball and team sports in general.

No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities- C.N. Bovee
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6/14/2010  1:35 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/14/2010  1:40 AM
Nate is what he is. An excellent bench player who could help any team in the league. Don't make him anything more, don't make him anything less. Most impressive thing to me is hes playing 10x better defensively than he did here. Its a totally different player on that end of the floor. He's playing with a team that demands it out of him. Getting around screens, pressuring full court. He's been a positive on the defensive end in this series

He will still at times get himself in trouble in help defense by helping when he really doesn't have to and leaving his man, but he's kept that to a minimum and his on the ball defense has been tremendous

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6/14/2010  1:46 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/14/2010  1:47 AM
DJMUSIC wrote:
kam77 wrote:It doesn't have anything to do with the Knicks. We have a ton of players who would be great off the bench, The problem is we were depending on them to start. Put the knick self-haterade down.

What self hatred are you talking about ?
explain ?

Didnt you say "The Knicks don't look too good here"?

Knicks came out ahead in the trade IMO because Bill Walker is signed cheap for next year.

Celtics are happy with the trade too. I see a fair trade.

So why does one side have to "not look too good"?

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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6/14/2010  1:46 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:You really wanted to tell us how well he's doing in 10 minutes per game......?

He is playing behind Rondo so I don't think he is going to get much more than that no matter how well he plays. Interesting that time on the bench coupled with respectful communication and encouragement from the coach had a positive impact on Nate.

Ugh................

We're gonna have another Nate discussion? I thought we already established that Nate is still the same exact player. Still acts like a fool and still plays out of control. His role is a aparkplug off the bench. He's not a 6th man on a championship team. It's the role he has now - 10 to 15 minutes per game off the bench. The problem is Nate and Nate Robinson fans think he's much better than that. Too bad that's far from the truth.

Papabear Says

People like you do not understand that Nate always played hard here in New York. Nate always had this in him. Just the wrong people Coaching him. Nate will grow wisdom about the game. And stop throwing our players under the bus. I bet you are hoping for him to fail in Boston.

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6/14/2010  1:49 AM
Nate hasn't grown. He has actually been trimmed. Like a Banzai tree in the hands of a master. He went from scraggly and unkempt to neat and presentable. Doc Rivers is using him for 20 seconds at the end of the first quarter and 10-12 minutes as a bridge from the 3rd to the mid 4th quarter. In that role, Nate can't do much harm at all.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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