Allanfan20 wrote:No it was definitely Nate. haha

That was kind of "special" wasn't it?

Since we are piling on "Nay Nate"......

Nate Still Bothered by Last Year’s Free Agency
By Tommy Dee - Jun 7, 2010 6:29 am

NY Post:

“…But Robinson’s beef with the Knicks seems to date back to last offseason when the Knicks decided to give him and David Lee one-year contracts instead of committing to them long term.

“I’m here now and David, this summer time, he’s looking forward to playing on a team that would want him hopefully,” Robinson told the website.

“I wish the best for D. Lee. Me and him came (to New York) as late first-round picks (Robinson going No. 21 and Lee No. 30 in 2005). We were rookies together. Almost five years on the same team … and then not getting the, I don’t want to say, the respect that we deserved. We paid our dues. But some time this summer (a team will be able) to pay homage to us, I guess.’..’

Pretty simple. Cap space. The end.

Does the dude not understand that respect is "earned", not given?

Dlee got 7 mil in respect. Walsh would have matched most offers. Nate got none. Knicks paid him 4 mil when it did not have to. Thats was a nice jesture for the "Clown Jester"

Celtics showed him a ton of respect by beating him down with some DNP's that kept a provision in his contract which paid him a million dollar bonus if they made the playoffs. He sat the last three games and did not make the game total allotment.

Knicks are a lot of things but not cheap!!! Nate's Celtics sat his ass and beat him out of a million dollar bonus.

Maybe god had another purpose for that money.

Moonangie wrote:Yeah, it was Nate. But what's the problem with it? It is a VERY common expression of endearment, albeit one usually reserved for use among African Americans. Far as I can tell, Nate and Rondo are both qualified to say it.

Oh man. I ain't gonna open that booby trap. Just because something is common doesn't necessarily make it alright.

Not coming from a high horse as I'm a black man who occasionally uses that word (though pretty rarely, I pick my spots and don't use it as a substitute for "guy" or "dude" in every sentence). But some people have no problem with it at all, some people have only a problem when certain people say it (as you imply), and some people would love this word to simply die. I'd say "to each his own" but it's WAY more complicated than that, obviously.

I guess I did open the trap huh. Heh.

DrAlphaeus wrote:

Moonangie wrote:Yeah, it was Nate. But what's the problem with it? It is a VERY common expression of endearment, albeit one usually reserved for use among African Americans. Far as I can tell, Nate and Rondo are both qualified to say it.

Oh man. I ain't gonna open that booby trap. Just because something is common doesn't necessarily make it alright.

Not coming from a high horse as I'm a black man who occasionally uses that word (though pretty rarely, I pick my spots and don't use it as a substitute for "guy" or "dude" in every sentence). But some people have no problem with it at all, some people have only a problem when certain people say it (as you imply), and some people would love this word to simply die. I'd say "to each his own" but it's WAY more complicated than that, obviously.

I guess I did open the trap huh. Heh.

I hear ya, Doc. And since I my skin isn't brown I am in no position to say if it should be offensive or not.

As a Jew, I have heard a lot of pejorative remarks directed toward my "people" and they sting a bit, but don't really get under my skin. And those remarks are meant to hurt. Nobody ever slapped me on the back to congratulate me for a solid play on the court by saying "Yeah, my kike, don't be cheap with the rock" or something of that sort.

All I meant was that the expression N8 used is a term of endearment, not a slight on his teammate's race. It's something akin to saying one of these: "Yeah, baby!" or "That's right mofo, you the man" or "Hell yeah". It's was said as a form of congratulations on a solid play. While a few people may take it out of context and think it's a misuse of the "N" word, I doubt most folks whose skin is brown would be offended by it in the context it was used. But I could be totally wrong about that. Maybe it's offensive enough to some folks that it ought to never be used, even in that endearing context.

Moonangie wrote:All I meant was that the expression N8 used is a term of endearment, not a slight on his teammate's race. It's something akin to saying one of these: "Yeah, baby!" or "That's right mofo, you the man" or "Hell yeah". It's was said as a form of congratulations on a solid play. While a few people may take it out of context and think it's a misuse of the "N" word, I doubt most folks whose skin is brown would be offended by it in the context it was used. But I could be totally wrong about that. Maybe it's offensive enough to some folks that it ought to never be used, even in that endearing context.

I hear you too, Moon, and good points. Definitely was in the "good job buddy!" context. But that it happened to be broadcast... a phrase intended in a context of a dozen African-American dudes and Brian Scalabrine is heard by millions of people of different cultures & nations, so the context changes. And Nate knows he's not playing a pickup game in his YMCA because of... oh, that camera guy who is right there?

So this is probably more of a "Nate being Nate" story where he goes from bigging up Jesus to dropping the N-word in same month than a reason to get into semantics, but I'll do it anyway

The "N" word is an especially weird word to me, because of how it's being used to simply mean "guy" or "dude," as in this imaginary scenario on a NYC court:

Puerto Rican dude: "Yo who was that other nigga y'all was playing ball with last week?"
Asian dude: "Oh that Jewish nigga Moon? He's nice with the rock!"

That kind of scenario I hear these days really cracks me up... but it also kinda depresses me, because all the people in and discussed wouldn't have been called that word 60 years ago when it wasn't so cute to say.

And where did these guys learn to use the word like that? Likely from their black friends, or from elements of African-American culture in the media. So I've chosen a somewhat tolerant approach for others, but a fairly stringent "code of conduct" for myself.

But a lot of things are like that now: say cursing in general. A man wouldn't say certain things in "mixed company" back in the day, but now I hear 15-year old girls say things that would make a sailor blush.

Now I'm just rambling and I should save it for a master's thesis.

jimimou wrote:speaking for myself and marv, can you ellaborate on the bold for us a bit

Ha! You old sailor you. Did you see "Kick Ass"?

playa2 wrote:Somethings with Nate will neva change.

Whatchu talking about man?

DrAlphaeus wrote:

jimimou wrote:speaking for myself and marv, can you ellaborate on the bold for us a bit

Ha! You old sailor you. Did you see "Kick Ass"?

yup. hysterical!