I think anyone of the smalls could EASILY fall back to 38--even some of the guys people think will go higher. There will be a slew of them--in fact there are guys projected in round 2 who are probably better than some of the guarsd projected round 1. I don't think you spend money after we spent on Douglas for a small. We NEED bigger players that make sense

BRIGGS wrote:The only guys I would move up for--within a realistic framework are bigs Luke Babbitt Hassan Whiteside Larry Sanders and Craig Brackins. I don't see any need to move up for a small or a true 3.

I think anyone of the smalls could EASILY fall back to 38--even some of the guys people think will go higher. There will be a slew of them--in fact there are guys projected in round 2 who are probably better than some of the guarsd projected round 1. I don't think you spend money after we spent on Douglas for a small. We NEED bigger players that make sense

Any vibes on Tim Ohlbrecht, BRIGGS? I have seen his name pop up in a number of places. Can't find any good clips of him. Another "the next Dirk" guy, who has good size (6'11" and 235+ lbs.), mobility, skills, and can block shots, but there are questions about the kind of competition he has faced so far.

Seems intriguing to me. One site has the Blazers taking him in the 2nd. I don't think DraftExpress has him being picked at all.

BRIGGS wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:The only guys I would move up for--within a realistic framework are bigs Luke Babbitt Hassan Whiteside Larry Sanders and Craig Brackins. I don't see any need to move up for a small or a true 3.

I think anyone of the smalls could EASILY fall back to 38--even some of the guys people think will go higher. There will be a slew of them--in fact there are guys projected in round 2 who are probably better than some of the guarsd projected round 1. I don't think you spend money after we spent on Douglas for a small. We NEED bigger players that make sense

Any vibes on Tim Ohlbrecht, BRIGGS? I have seen his name pop up in a number of places. Can't find any good clips of him. Another "the next Dirk" guy, who has good size (6'11" and 235+ lbs.), mobility, skills, and can block shots, but there are questions about the kind of competition he has faced so far.

Seems intriguing to me. One site has the Blazers taking him in the 2nd. I don't think DraftExpress has him being picked at all.

Looks rather underwhelming to spend 3mm $ on to move up.

Every year there are a couple of guys that you obesss about. BJ Muellin, Javal McGee, Randolph, etc.
My point is beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm sure there will be 4-5 guys on the radar that Walsh and MDA really want. MDA is actually scouting w/ Walsh, which is not the norm. Remember the Knicks didnt just buy that pick last year, they were only spending that $3mm if Douglas was there. He was their guy.

At this stage of the game you have to assume you wont sign anyone in the offseason and may lose David Lee. That means you have some pretty high needs. If I am the Knicks I'm looking at add a big, a wing, a PG, a forward and a shooter. So you looking to find TWO of each because nobody ever gets all their first choices.

I would be shocked if Walsh and MDA went to these combines and didnt walk away thinking there are a couple of guys they really want to have.

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:The only guys I would move up for--within a realistic framework are bigs Luke Babbitt Hassan Whiteside Larry Sanders and Craig Brackins. I don't see any need to move up for a small or a true 3.

I think anyone of the smalls could EASILY fall back to 38--even some of the guys people think will go higher. There will be a slew of them--in fact there are guys projected in round 2 who are probably better than some of the guarsd projected round 1. I don't think you spend money after we spent on Douglas for a small. We NEED bigger players that make sense

Any vibes on Tim Ohlbrecht, BRIGGS? I have seen his name pop up in a number of places. Can't find any good clips of him. Another "the next Dirk" guy, who has good size (6'11" and 235+ lbs.), mobility, skills, and can block shots, but there are questions about the kind of competition he has faced so far.

Seems intriguing to me. One site has the Blazers taking him in the 2nd. I don't think DraftExpress has him being picked at all.

Looks rather underwhelming to spend 3mm $ on to move up.

I totally disagree and so do you.

Every year there are a couple of guys that you obesss about. BJ Muellin, Javal McGee, Randolph, etc.
My point is beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm sure there will be 4-5 guys on the radar that Walsh and MDA really want. MDA is actually scouting w/ Walsh, which is not the norm. Remember the Knicks didnt just buy that pick last year, they were only spending that $3mm if Douglas was there. He was their guy.

At this stage of the game you have to assume you wont sign anyone in the offseason and may lose David Lee. That means you have some pretty high needs. If I am the Knicks I'm looking at add a big, a wing, a PG, a forward and a shooter. So you looking to find TWO of each because nobody ever gets all their first choices.

I would be shocked if Walsh and MDA went to these combines and didnt walk away thinking there are a couple of guys they really want to have.

Yeah I'm with you Fish 1000%...You definitely look to move up several slots to get the guys you want (or give yourself that much more of a chance) if you can...Cap impact is completely negligible too btw -- I gave the figures the other day.. Even with 2 max players in FA, we'd still have enough to add 3 lower 1st rounders in the 24-30 range along with a second rounder with no problem whatsoever. For the good of the team, you do it..Complete no-brainer..

franco12 wrote:Walsh isn't looking to get into the first round to pick up a player, he's going to package it up with some other assets so he can move Curry

I don't care what the motive is so long as it ends up improving the team. Keep the draft pick, send him in a trade, in the end DW is only trying to get us in position to get the best talent this summer.

franco12 wrote:Walsh isn't looking to get into the first round to pick up a player, he's going to package it up with some other assets so he can move Curry

Hey maybe, who knows....I personally wouldn't worry about shedding more cap at this point -- Donnie's already accomplished that goal...With a $56.1 mil. dollar cap he's got room for 2 max FAs plus another 3-4 million to use on the draft (and if we go Lee + a max guy you figure we'll have even more to spend becuase Lee's probably not a max player). Right now I'd look to go that route. We're gonna need to build a complete team or get as close as we can. I say amass as many draft picks as you can with the intention of USING THEM to reshape/add to the roster...Curry's a joke -- not interested in burning any assets to accommodate moving him. He's an expiring contract, make the best of him on those terms. If this loser won't take a buyout in the neighborhood of 80% (mistake on his part imo - he doesn't fit here anymore, he needs to think about salvaging the rest of his career not wasting yet another year), then either he comes in ready to play and increases his value for a trade at the deadline or if not and he continues to show he's a complete zero, he can sit on the end of the bench and rot all year as far as I'm concerned. He comes right off the cap at the end of the year..

iSergio wrote:Curious who or what type of player they are targeting. Knowing the Knicks, it's probably another SF. LOL Unless we can trade up for Cole Aldrich, there aren't any Centers that excite me. All of them are years away from contributing and we know how patient this management is. : /

More like a jump shooting Center who can block a shot or 2