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MDA dying to get LBJ, What makes MDA thinks LBJ wants him ?
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DJMUSIC
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5/16/2010  6:42 PM
Inquiring minds wants to know

MDA craves Lebron James well why not ?

As mistake prone as coach M.Brown was at times in Cleveland at least they play defense for 2 yrs and got something built there
despite their meltdown vs Celtics. Can't blame Brown without mentioning his team roster folding their tents.

Back to M Dantoni,
He better get his plans down for getting in a defensive mentality and give Walsh inputs he needs such players.

If MDA thinks we going to be the Phoenix Knicks and flying up & down throwing excessive shots or 3-pointers than his opposition to win games
while not enforcing team defense is going to cut it here he is wrong.

LBJ or any star FA would not want a coach whom disgards defense.

M D'antoni better adjust his thinking that defense don't have to be taught which is impression I get.
If MDA cannot teach it he needs a new fresh assistant coaching staff to work on that.

DJ will picket the Garden come later this fall if MDA doesnt give fans impression of change toward incorporating big men & defensive first attitude
into Knicks success for improving in 2010/2011 NBA season.

I'll bring some of DJ's homeboy pals down to picket if MDA going to continue to force offense only thinking down our throat

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5/16/2010  6:54 PM
Get rid of Damphoney and then maybe Lebron would come to the knicks.

Why would Lebron play for a team thats completely one-sided(offense, no defense)?

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5/16/2010  7:03 PM
WOODMANnYk wrote:Get rid of Damphoney and then maybe Lebron would come to the knicks.

Why would Lebron play for a team thats completely one-sided(offense, no defense)?

lol that you felt you had to explain that he was one-sided on the offensive rather than defensive side

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5/16/2010  7:07 PM
WOODMANnYk wrote:Get rid of Damphoney and then maybe Lebron would come to the knicks.

Why would Lebron play for a team thats completely one-sided(offense, no defense)?

How do you know what LeBron is think if he is even think about a defensive minded coach, if you know that then you must know where he is going?

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5/16/2010  7:30 PM
Enough with the defense criticism....D'antoni designed a defense this year with Jared as the anchor and it was pretty effective considering the players aren't known to be good defenders. So stop spreading lies.

Donnie gotta bring in the talent and hopefully the chemistry and the system catches on fast.

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5/16/2010  8:53 PM
How does he know? Because MSG employees tell him so. Hi Mr. Hahn.
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5/16/2010  9:13 PM
EnySpree wrote:Enough with the defense criticism....D'antoni designed a defense this year with Jared as the anchor and it was pretty effective considering the players aren't known to be good defenders. So stop spreading lies.

Donnie gotta bring in the talent and hopefully the chemistry and the system catches on fast.

MDA designed a Defense ?

That is funniest NYK rumor i ever heard
JJeffries aint here
and whole town wanted to run him out. MDA didnt say much about losing him

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5/17/2010  2:17 AM
DJMUSIC wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Enough with the defense criticism....D'antoni designed a defense this year with Jared as the anchor and it was pretty effective considering the players aren't known to be good defenders. So stop spreading lies.

Donnie gotta bring in the talent and hopefully the chemistry and the system catches on fast.

MDA designed a Defense ?

That is funniest NYK rumor i ever heard
JJeffries aint here
and whole town wanted to run him out. MDA didnt say much about losing him

How could it be a rumor if it is the truth?

Jared isn't here but neither is 2/3rds of the roster come July 1st.

In other words cut it out. Stop spinning that media bull****. Its a fact that D'antoni changed the defense with Jared guarding the top of the key. It was a decent functional plan that came up big at times. That is a fact but only counts if you watch games and don't read the paper.

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5/17/2010  2:32 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/17/2010  2:35 AM
EnySpree wrote:How could it be a rumor if it is the truth?

Jared isn't here but neither is 2/3rds of the roster come July 1st.

In other words cut it out. Stop spinning that media bull****. Its a fact that D'antoni changed the defense with Jared guarding the top of the key. It was a decent functional plan that came up big at times. That is a fact but only counts if you watch games and don't read the paper.

This gets a +1 from me. Donnie & Mike would simply argue that they don't have the players to play good enough D, both in the front & backcourt.

And I never got the whole piling up on Jeffries thing... well, I get it because it's fun to clown someone, but where's the consistency? Make up your mind: do you guys love defense or not? If you do, why hate Jeffries if he was the only one playing it?

It would be great to get some 2-way players, period. I think Gallo, Toney & Chandler have the goods. I hope I'm right about them, and that we can get some more players like that.

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5/17/2010  1:02 PM
MDA's teams were always decent defensively but couldve been better if not for the lack of a real C and having Nash n Amare up the middle. Nash tries hard but Amare never did until this year. He's a big fake cuz he knows damn well they tried to get him to defend for years and he refused. They brought in KT specifically to help the D and in that season the team ranked 13th in Defensive rate per 100 possessions, meanwhile they ranked #1 in offense.

Those teams never had any major defensive talent. We have a good start with Gallo, Chan, TD n Walker. You add Lebron, Bosh n a shotblocker and this would be a very good defensive team.

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5/17/2010  6:58 PM
They got rid of jeffries for the cap space. It wasn't a basketball move mda and walsh have always liked jeffries which totally kills the rumor that mda doesn't play guys who can't shoot. Why does everyone forget about the effective zone defense mda used last season to win games? or the switch defensive scheme that took Nate Robinson,a top scorer, out of the rotation because he hurt the team defensively?
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5/17/2010  7:04 PM
Loconixfan wrote:They got rid of jeffries for the cap space. It wasn't a basketball move mda and walsh have always liked jeffries which totally kills the rumor that mda doesn't play guys who can't shoot. Why does everyone forget about the effective zone defense mda used last season to win games? or the switch defensive scheme that took Nate Robinson,a top scorer, out of the rotation because he hurt the team defensively?

because they still stunk... its hard to look at a 50 loss team and say: good job on d!!!

jj put effort into d, which is about as far as i would give him credit. i dont think he was very good at it, he simply tried more than most guys on the team. this is the same thing that "plagued" him in wash. i think its a good thing jj is gone for more than just $$$.

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5/17/2010  7:07 PM
The MYTH that MDA doesn't like D is just infuriating to me. He doesn't want his teams to commit fouls cuz it's a bad idea to give teams a chance to shoot 75% when you can avoid it. He prefers forcing teams to take bad shots, but not fouling. We want rebounds so we can get out and run, so you have to contend shots and keep teams from getting penetration. His teams usually do that. The idea is that his teams are usually high FG% teams and if you shoot 50% and only allow 45% then you should be in a position to win a lot of games.

I'll tell you what Lebron should like, tho, the great offensive mind MDA has. He will without a doubt help Lebron to be an even more devastating player. He'll be beating teams with his mind more than just his raw physical talent. That should not be overlooked. Lebron and his team lost cuz they couldn't beat a great D with that lame offense they run. Brown couldn't figure out a way to adjust to what the Celt's were doing and that won't happen with MDA.

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5/17/2010  7:14 PM
nixluva wrote:MDA's teams were always decent defensively but couldve been better if not for the lack of a real C and having Nash n Amare up the middle. Nash tries hard but Amare never did until this year. He's a big fake cuz he knows damn well they tried to get him to defend for years and he refused. They brought in KT specifically to help the D and in that season the team ranked 13th in Defensive rate per 100 possessions, meanwhile they ranked #1 in offense.

Those teams never had any major defensive talent. We have a good start with Gallo, Chan, TD n Walker. You add Lebron, Bosh n a shotblocker and this would be a very good defensive team.

Lebron is shot-blocker, not saying we don't need another one. Problem is people form an opinion and keep repeating it often enough so other people start assuming it is true.

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5/17/2010  7:20 PM
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nixluva wrote:MDA's teams were always decent defensively but couldve been better if not for the lack of a real C and having Nash n Amare up the middle. Nash tries hard but Amare never did until this year. He's a big fake cuz he knows damn well they tried to get him to defend for years and he refused. They brought in KT specifically to help the D and in that season the team ranked 13th in Defensive rate per 100 possessions, meanwhile they ranked #1 in offense.

Those teams never had any major defensive talent. We have a good start with Gallo, Chan, TD n Walker. You add Lebron, Bosh n a shotblocker and this would be a very good defensive team.

Lebron is shot-blocker, not saying we don't need another one. Problem is people form an opinion and keep repeating it often enough so other people start assuming it is true.

You're right Lebron was his teams shotblocker with 77!!! I'm very proud of the fact that Gallo co-led the Knicks with 58. That's not bad for a soft Euro!!! I expect that Gallo will build on that number as he matures.

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5/17/2010  7:20 PM
nixluva wrote:MDA's teams were always decent defensively but couldve been better if not for the lack of a real C and having Nash n Amare up the middle. Nash tries hard but Amare never did until this year. He's a big fake cuz he knows damn well they tried to get him to defend for years and he refused. They brought in KT specifically to help the D and in that season the team ranked 13th in Defensive rate per 100 possessions, meanwhile they ranked #1 in offense.

Those teams never had any major defensive talent. We have a good start with Gallo, Chan, TD n Walker. You add Lebron, Bosh n a shotblocker and this would be a very good defensive team.

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We better face facts! D'Antoni ain't no defensive coach and if you want to go deep in the play-off you just can't be good you must be great defensivly. That's why Boston took out LeBron and the Cavs. Look we have nothing to offer LeBron but the Mystic of New York being the Mecca and if he goes to Chicago then he will always be second potatto or 3rd behind Scotty Pippen. If he does that then he will have punked out. But I can't blame him if he choose not to come to New York because we have nothing to offer. To win a championship today you need at least 2 superstars and 1 almost superstar all pro.

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5/17/2010  7:29 PM
Papabear wrote:
nixluva wrote:MDA's teams were always decent defensively but couldve been better if not for the lack of a real C and having Nash n Amare up the middle. Nash tries hard but Amare never did until this year. He's a big fake cuz he knows damn well they tried to get him to defend for years and he refused. They brought in KT specifically to help the D and in that season the team ranked 13th in Defensive rate per 100 possessions, meanwhile they ranked #1 in offense.

Those teams never had any major defensive talent. We have a good start with Gallo, Chan, TD n Walker. You add Lebron, Bosh n a shotblocker and this would be a very good defensive team.

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We better face facts! D'Antoni ain't no defensive coach and if you want to go deep in the play-off you just can't be good you must be great defensivly. That's why Boston took out LeBron and the Cavs. Look we have nothing to offer LeBron but the Mystic of New York being the Mecca and if he goes to Chicago then he will always be second potatto or 3rd behind Scotty Pippen. If he does that then he will have punked out. But I can't blame him if he choose not to come to New York because we have nothing to offer. To win a championship today you need at least 2 superstars and 1 almost superstar all pro.

if the knicks can get some better effort on d from all players, they may not need individual elite defenders. getting some stops on d when you need it may have more val in the long run then 1 or 2 really good guys on d and the rest having crummy effort still.

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5/17/2010  9:01 PM
Papabear wrote:
nixluva wrote:MDA's teams were always decent defensively but couldve been better if not for the lack of a real C and having Nash n Amare up the middle. Nash tries hard but Amare never did until this year. He's a big fake cuz he knows damn well they tried to get him to defend for years and he refused. They brought in KT specifically to help the D and in that season the team ranked 13th in Defensive rate per 100 possessions, meanwhile they ranked #1 in offense.

Those teams never had any major defensive talent. We have a good start with Gallo, Chan, TD n Walker. You add Lebron, Bosh n a shotblocker and this would be a very good defensive team.

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We better face facts! D'Antoni ain't no defensive coach and if you want to go deep in the play-off you just can't be good you must be great defensivly. That's why Boston took out LeBron and the Cavs. Look we have nothing to offer LeBron but the Mystic of New York being the Mecca and if he goes to Chicago then he will always be second potatto or 3rd behind Scotty Pippen. If he does that then he will have punked out. But I can't blame him if he choose not to come to New York because we have nothing to offer. To win a championship today you need at least 2 superstars and 1 almost superstar all pro.

Face facts? We laid out the facts already. You obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about. Sounding like a mark berman groupie.

Knicks have bosh to offer....that's the reason for the 36 million cap space. Ball is in their court. Knicks would just design the team around them....Knicks are held hostage until they make their decision.

Plan b? 36 million dollars....nuff said

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5/17/2010  9:14 PM
EnySpree wrote:Enough with the defense criticism....D'antoni designed a defense this year with Jared as the anchor and it was pretty effective considering the players aren't known to be good defenders. So stop spreading lies.

Donnie gotta bring in the talent and hopefully the chemistry and the system catches on fast.

You are right to a point. MDA did put Jeffries in a role but that stayed the same for every game. There was no game planning for opponents or adjustments made after the initial adjustment. That isn't scouting an opponent and preparing.
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CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Enough with the defense criticism....D'antoni designed a defense this year with Jared as the anchor and it was pretty effective considering the players aren't known to be good defenders. So stop spreading lies.

Donnie gotta bring in the talent and hopefully the chemistry and the system catches on fast.

You are right to a point. MDA did put Jeffries in a role but that stayed the same for every game. There was no game planning for opponents or adjustments made after the initial adjustment. That isn't scouting an opponent and preparing.

You realize that MDA won more than 54 games in every season he coached the Suns and he coached the same way! his style is to make teams adjust to what you do rather than all this changing. In a sense it logical when you have a smallish team that can't play a different way. They can't be a bigtime post team with no post players. Only a very versatile roster can switch up all the time. If you're the Spurs, Celts or Lakers you can do that cuz those were great rosters with real size and versatility. The Suns never had that and we certainly didn't have that here the last two years.

MDA dying to get LBJ, What makes MDA thinks LBJ wants him ?

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