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nyk4ever
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5/14/2010  8:21 AM
Naturally, theres going to be rumors about LeBron going here, there, fish's house, dj's basement, TMS's bukake lounge, Marv's psych ward, everywhere. Can we lump them all in one spot, aka here?
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5/14/2010  8:41 AM
here's the first one from Chad Ford...

Boston Celtics fans were chanting "New York Knicks" during Thursday's Game 6 every time that LeBron James went to the foul line. Maybe they should've been chanting "Chicago Bulls."

Within minutes of the Cleveland Cavaliers' elimination at the hands of the Celtics, the speculation about LeBron James' next destination resumed in full force.

In the space of five minutes I heard from three NBA GMs via text, e-mail and phone. All three said that based on the information they have, they believe LeBron will leave the Cavs.

More surprisingly, all of them said they believe the destination will be the Chicago Bulls. Two said they believe that John Calipari will be the Bulls' new head coach.

One GM went a bit further in a phone call a few minutes later. "I think the Bulls are really going to go for it. Look for them to offer the Cavs Luol Deng in a sign-and-trade for LeBron. That will allow them to retain most of their cap space. Then they'll go after Dwyane Wade or Chris Bosh as well."

I'm sure we'll hear various scenarios involving the Knicks, Nets and Heat over the course of the next month. But it's hard to come up with any other scenario that would be quite as appealing for LeBron.

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5/14/2010  9:05 AM
No. We need 12.
Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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5/14/2010  9:16 AM
I would imagine that a sign and trade with the Bulls will have to include D.Rose, as well as, L.Deng.

It would suck to give up on D.Rose (Especially if Calipari is on board to Coach) but if the Bulls ARE able to bring in Wade or Bosh, it would be worth it.

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5/14/2010  9:18 AM
nyk4ever wrote:here's the first one from Chad Ford...

Boston Celtics fans were chanting "New York Knicks" during Thursday's Game 6 every time that LeBron James went to the foul line. Maybe they should've been chanting "Chicago Bulls."


One GM went a bit further in a phone call a few minutes later. "I think the Bulls are really going to go for it. Look for them to offer the Cavs Luol Deng in a sign-and-trade for LeBron. That will allow them to retain most of their cap space. Then they'll go after Dwyane Wade or Chris Bosh as well."

This seem to be the biggest rumor with legs this morning. One guy said that Lebron would love to leave the Cavs with pieces from a S&T and Deng, Gibson and Hinrich which would be great for Cleveland because it would leave them enough cap space to attract FAs of their own like Gay. Man I wanted to the Knicks to get Gibson in the draft. I knew this guy would be something in this league. I guess Chicago does not plan on including Noah. The Cavs or any team like the Raptors that the Bulls try to run a game on should demand Noah IMO. Don't give Lebron all his pieces.

Everyone seems to put NY behind Chicago, Cleveland as his choices but ahead of the Nets. If this guy goes to Chicago, Seb, Marv and Fish got to give up their standom and acknowledge this guy a drama queen and tease. I mean Chicago! That idiot Noah wanted to get in your face about your clowning and you may want to join up with him.

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5/14/2010  9:27 AM
All the Chicago rumors are just the press circle jerking. There is absolutely no way Lebron goes to Chicago.

Lebron is the King. Cleveland a village, Chicago is a town, and NY is the KINGdom. There's no other way to think about it.

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5/14/2010  9:49 AM
metra wrote:All the Chicago rumors are just the press circle jerking. There is absolutely no way Lebron goes to Chicago.

Lebron is the King. Cleveland a village, Chicago is a town, and NY is the KINGdom. There's no other way to think about it.

Long time since I posted....but isn't metra right? NYC is where he can make everything he ever wanted in life come true INCLUDING a title. Chicago? I know LBJ loves Jordan, but doesn't everyone think he wants to create his own legacy? He's going to win his title wherever he goes, but if it's in Chicago his teams will always be in the sahdow of Jordan's Bulls. I think that kind of stuff is important to him. My guess is if he leaves he's coming to the Knicks.

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5/14/2010  9:53 AM
nyk4ever wrote:Naturally, theres going to be rumors about LeBron going here, there, fish's house, dj's basement, TMS's bukake lounge, Marv's psych ward, everywhere. Can we lump them all in one spot, aka here?

You're about two years late with this request.

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5/14/2010  9:57 AM
MSG3 wrote:
metra wrote:All the Chicago rumors are just the press circle jerking. There is absolutely no way Lebron goes to Chicago.

Lebron is the King. Cleveland a village, Chicago is a town, and NY is the KINGdom. There's no other way to think about it.

Long time since I posted....but isn't metra right? NYC is where he can make everything he ever wanted in life come true INCLUDING a title. Chicago? I know LBJ loves Jordan, but doesn't everyone think he wants to create his own legacy? He's going to win his title wherever he goes, but if it's in Chicago his teams will always be in the sahdow of Jordan's Bulls. I think that kind of stuff is important to him. My guess is if he leaves he's coming to the Knicks.

I don't think or hope that would worry Lebron. The legacy part. I mean it was only a couple years ago that Kobe demanded to be traded to Chicago because he felt it was filled with young players that could give him a better shot to win than what the Lakers were presenting at the time. I don't think anyone dared to ask him are you scared of not living up to Jordan's legacy. Because they knew he wasn't worried about it. Lebron should be able to walk in and give a Pitino speech about such and such is not walking in here and this is my team. But who knows how some guys think. I would also say not so fast about he will win his title no matter where he goes. Right now he has youth on his side but KG said something great about that last night concerning youth and loyalty.

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5/14/2010  9:59 AM
You could have put this post in one of the other countless threads...
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5/14/2010  10:00 AM
Pharzeone wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
metra wrote:All the Chicago rumors are just the press circle jerking. There is absolutely no way Lebron goes to Chicago.

Lebron is the King. Cleveland a village, Chicago is a town, and NY is the KINGdom. There's no other way to think about it.

Long time since I posted....but isn't metra right? NYC is where he can make everything he ever wanted in life come true INCLUDING a title. Chicago? I know LBJ loves Jordan, but doesn't everyone think he wants to create his own legacy? He's going to win his title wherever he goes, but if it's in Chicago his teams will always be in the sahdow of Jordan's Bulls. I think that kind of stuff is important to him. My guess is if he leaves he's coming to the Knicks.

I don't think or hope that would worry Lebron. The legacy part. I mean it was only a couple years ago that Kobe demanded to be traded to Chicago because he felt it was filled with young players that could give him a better shot to win than what the Lakers were presenting at the time. I don't think anyone dared to ask him are you scared of not living up to Jordan's legacy. Because they knew he wasn't worried about it. Lebron should be able to walk in and give a Pitino speech about such and such is not walking in here and this is my team. But who knows how some guys think. I would also say not so fast about he will win his title no matter where he goes. Right now he has youth on his side but KG said something great about that last night concerning youth and loyalty.

I think Kobe and LeBron are different.. Kobe is a smug son of a bitch, but its what makes him the best and he wouldn't care about the legacy. I think LeBron would worry about it. I just think he has a different mindset.

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5/14/2010  10:06 AM
nyk4ever wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
metra wrote:All the Chicago rumors are just the press circle jerking. There is absolutely no way Lebron goes to Chicago.

Lebron is the King. Cleveland a village, Chicago is a town, and NY is the KINGdom. There's no other way to think about it.

Long time since I posted....but isn't metra right? NYC is where he can make everything he ever wanted in life come true INCLUDING a title. Chicago? I know LBJ loves Jordan, but doesn't everyone think he wants to create his own legacy? He's going to win his title wherever he goes, but if it's in Chicago his teams will always be in the sahdow of Jordan's Bulls. I think that kind of stuff is important to him. My guess is if he leaves he's coming to the Knicks.

I don't think or hope that would worry Lebron. The legacy part. I mean it was only a couple years ago that Kobe demanded to be traded to Chicago because he felt it was filled with young players that could give him a better shot to win than what the Lakers were presenting at the time. I don't think anyone dared to ask him are you scared of not living up to Jordan's legacy. Because they knew he wasn't worried about it. Lebron should be able to walk in and give a Pitino speech about such and such is not walking in here and this is my team. But who knows how some guys think. I would also say not so fast about he will win his title no matter where he goes. Right now he has youth on his side but KG said something great about that last night concerning youth and loyalty.

I think Kobe and LeBron are different.. Kobe is a smug son of a bitch, but its what makes him the best and he wouldn't care about the legacy. I think LeBron would worry about it. I just think he has a different mindset.

Yeah, I agree somewhat. It's that mindset that I think may prevent him from obtaining the career success that many think he should have. Jordan said that Ewing should have left NY a long time ago. Found that interesting when it said it and what KG had to say about Lebron's situation was eye opening coming from his perspective from his T'Wolves days.

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5/14/2010  10:24 AM
If free-agents are looking to leave:

I think the Bulls are first, Nets second, and the Knicks third.


The Bulls are a ready-made playoff team, top free-agents can hand-pick the head coach, and they have a good fanbase.

The Nets have a few tradeable assets, again a top free-agent could at the very least influence greatly the hiring of the next coach and finally they will most likley end up with a top three pick.

The Knicks have D'Antoni, have some young talent, and a bunch of cap space.

Everyone makes a big deal out of location but in reality I don't know if that's important. Anyone making 15, 17 million dollars can purchase a home anywhere in the world. For someone like Lebron or Wade anywhere they go (if they leave) the fanbase will skyrocket, and most players live in the Suburbs, NJ, NY, Chicago all have very exclusive and wealthy communities that would be ideal of purchasing a home.

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5/14/2010  10:43 AM
My list ...

1. New York - The Mecca, Capital of the World, rabid diehard fans who supported the team even when they were 29-33 in April. Room for two MAX free agents. I hate him but James Dolan is an owner who is willing to spend whatever it takes. Respetable GM in Donnie Walsh and a likeable Coach in Mike D'Antoni. Good solid young players in Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler and Toney Douglas. And a chance at a legacy that eclipes almost everything that's ever been done in basketball history.

2. Miami - Sunshine state. No state tax. South Beach. Dwyane Wade & Pat Riley.

3. Chicago - Distant third from New York and Miami. Toxic management. No Coach. Cheap ownership. The Bulls are a distant third behind the Bears and Cubs too. Unfair or not, a high class player like LeBron James and Dwyane Wade would be playing in Michael Jordan's shadow and have no opportunity at any type of special legacy. Like Tommy Dee says, if LeBron wins 3 rings, what now? Are they going to build a smaller statue next to Jordan's? Not appealing imo.

4. Los Angeles Clippers - Distant fourth. Good young talent and nice market/location but in the shadow of the Lakers.

5. New Jersey Nets - Distant fifth. Probably the last place ANY player wants to go. No fan base. Stuck in a hole in the ground the next 2 years. I bet the Top 6 free agents won't even visit this landfill.

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5/14/2010  10:50 AM
bitty41 wrote:If free-agents are looking to leave:

I think the Bulls are first, Nets second, and the Knicks third.


The Bulls are a ready-made playoff team, top free-agents can hand-pick the head coach, and they have a good fanbase.

The Nets have a few tradeable assets, again a top free-agent could at the very least influence greatly the hiring of the next coach and finally they will most likley end up with a top three pick.

The Knicks have D'Antoni, have some young talent, and a bunch of cap space.

Everyone makes a big deal out of location but in reality I don't know if that's important. Anyone making 15, 17 million dollars can purchase a home anywhere in the world. For someone like Lebron or Wade anywhere they go (if they leave) the fanbase will skyrocket, and most players live in the Suburbs, NJ, NY, Chicago all have very exclusive and wealthy communities that would be ideal of purchasing a home.

I don't think you - or anyone who thinks Lebron should even consider anywhere besides NY - realizes what could, no, will happen if Lebron comes to NY. The Yankees baseball hat. Everyone in NY wears it. That's not saying much. Go to Europe, lots of people THERE wear it. I was in EGYPT 'last summer, people were wearing it even there. This doesn't happen with the White Sox or Cubs. This happens with the Yankees. (Excuse my baseball ignorance if its showing right now).

Take that Yankees baseball hat, the millions and millions of people wearing it, and replace it with a NEW YORK KNICKS hat. The magnitude of change, the revolution of NY basketball, the icon of Lebron in NY, the global image of NY and LEBRON, that is what will happen when Lebron comes to NY.

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5/14/2010  10:54 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/14/2010  11:02 AM
Pharzeone wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:here's the first one from Chad Ford...

Boston Celtics fans were chanting "New York Knicks" during Thursday's Game 6 every time that LeBron James went to the foul line. Maybe they should've been chanting "Chicago Bulls."


One GM went a bit further in a phone call a few minutes later. "I think the Bulls are really going to go for it. Look for them to offer the Cavs Luol Deng in a sign-and-trade for LeBron. That will allow them to retain most of their cap space. Then they'll go after Dwyane Wade or Chris Bosh as well."

This seem to be the biggest rumor with legs this morning. One guy said that Lebron would love to leave the Cavs with pieces from a S&T and Deng, Gibson and Hinrich which would be great for Cleveland because it would leave them enough cap space to attract FAs of their own like Gay. Man I wanted to the Knicks to get Gibson in the draft. I knew this guy would be something in this league. I guess Chicago does not plan on including Noah. The Cavs or any team like the Raptors that the Bulls try to run a game on should demand Noah IMO. Don't give Lebron all his pieces.

Everyone seems to put NY behind Chicago, Cleveland as his choices but ahead of the Nets. If this guy goes to Chicago, Seb, Marv and Fish got to give up their standom and acknowledge this guy a drama queen and tease. I mean Chicago! That idiot Noah wanted to get in your face about your clowning and you may want to join up with him.

If it's going to be a S&T (which Ferry categorically dismisses... "I won't HELP Lebron leave the Cavs") the Knicks could offer Lee and one of Douglas/Chandler. That's about as good for the Cavs as Deng and Gibson and may be a way for Lee to get a bigger contract than he would command on the FA market. We would still be able to sign Bosh and then some. I hope it doesn't go down that way, but a S&T doesn't imply that the Knicks are out of the running. When all is said and done, Lebron will go where he wants to play (cēterīs paribus).

There's no doubt that NY has serious allure (bright lights, hoops mecca, the Garden, the fans, the ability to establish an enduring legacy without MJ hovering in the past, proximity to the epicenters of media, publishing and private equity). Lebron's mom dint raise no foo. He might SAY it's just about winning, but let's face it: Notwithstanding his crappy play in games 5 and 6 this week, he's still the best player in the NBA. And a little birdie told me he would LOVE to play in MDA's system.

Only 8 weeks until we have our definitive answer.

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5/14/2010  10:56 AM
MSG3 wrote:
metra wrote:All the Chicago rumors are just the press circle jerking. There is absolutely no way Lebron goes to Chicago.

Lebron is the King. Cleveland a village, Chicago is a town, and NY is the KINGdom. There's no other way to think about it.

Long time since I posted....but isn't metra right? NYC is where he can make everything he ever wanted in life come true INCLUDING a title. Chicago? I know LBJ loves Jordan, but doesn't everyone think he wants to create his own legacy? He's going to win his title wherever he goes, but if it's in Chicago his teams will always be in the sahdow of Jordan's Bulls. I think that kind of stuff is important to him. My guess is if he leaves he's coming to the Knicks.


that is over rated--people are taking that to far. I think the last thing Lebron wants is another team to carry by himself. Chicago is set up in a way he does not have to do that.

Look at the knicks--were depleted. unknown what do we have?????????????? it's just not credible--eddy currys contract eats up our chance to fill out the roster or sign D lee--what exactly is the team? right now eddy curry is the frontcourt for goodness sakes and TD is the pg! Gallo and chandler--come on!

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5/14/2010  11:03 AM
metra wrote:
bitty41 wrote:If free-agents are looking to leave:

I think the Bulls are first, Nets second, and the Knicks third.


The Bulls are a ready-made playoff team, top free-agents can hand-pick the head coach, and they have a good fanbase.

The Nets have a few tradeable assets, again a top free-agent could at the very least influence greatly the hiring of the next coach and finally they will most likley end up with a top three pick.

The Knicks have D'Antoni, have some young talent, and a bunch of cap space.

Everyone makes a big deal out of location but in reality I don't know if that's important. Anyone making 15, 17 million dollars can purchase a home anywhere in the world. For someone like Lebron or Wade anywhere they go (if they leave) the fanbase will skyrocket, and most players live in the Suburbs, NJ, NY, Chicago all have very exclusive and wealthy communities that would be ideal of purchasing a home.

I don't think you - or anyone who thinks Lebron should even consider anywhere besides NY - realizes what could, no, will happen if Lebron comes to NY. The Yankees baseball hat. Everyone in NY wears it. That's not saying much. Go to Europe, lots of people THERE wear it. I was in EGYPT 'last summer, people were wearing it even there. This doesn't happen with the White Sox or Cubs. This happens with the Yankees. (Excuse my baseball ignorance if its showing right now).

Take that Yankees baseball hat, the millions and millions of people wearing it, and replace it with a NEW YORK KNICKS hat. The magnitude of change, the revolution of NY basketball, the icon of Lebron in NY, the global image of NY and LEBRON, that is what will happen when Lebron comes to NY.

And how is the Yankees related to this discussion? Some vague story about seeing Egyptians wearing Yankees hats seems pretty irrelevant. The Yankees and Knicks are in two entirely different universes, the Yankees legacy has built through decades and numerous successes the Knicks haven't won a title in 40 years.

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5/14/2010  11:12 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
metra wrote:All the Chicago rumors are just the press circle jerking. There is absolutely no way Lebron goes to Chicago.

Lebron is the King. Cleveland a village, Chicago is a town, and NY is the KINGdom. There's no other way to think about it.

Long time since I posted....but isn't metra right? NYC is where he can make everything he ever wanted in life come true INCLUDING a title. Chicago? I know LBJ loves Jordan, but doesn't everyone think he wants to create his own legacy? He's going to win his title wherever he goes, but if it's in Chicago his teams will always be in the sahdow of Jordan's Bulls. I think that kind of stuff is important to him. My guess is if he leaves he's coming to the Knicks.


that is over rated--people are taking that to far. I think the last thing Lebron wants is another team to carry by himself. Chicago is set up in a way he does not have to do that.

Look at the knicks--were depleted. unknown what do we have?????????????? it's just not credible--eddy currys contract eats up our chance to fill out the roster or sign D lee--what exactly is the team? right now eddy curry is the frontcourt for goodness sakes and TD is the pg! Gallo and chandler--come on!

Briggs, are you thinking this through clearly? For starters, Lebron would never join the Knicks without knowing his sidekick is on board. So the roster would start with Lebron, Bosh, Gallo, Chandler, Douglas and Walker. We could most likely count on Barron, and don't discount the possibility of T-Mac using next year at a vet's minimum to reestablish his bonafides for a final contract. Even without T-Mac, that's a solid core. Then...

Eddie is a sweet trade chip next season. He's as good as gone, possibly in a terrific trade to bring a solid player to join Lebron's already excellent core. Teams will be looking to shed salary for the following FA summer of Melo & CP3. So we can take back a larger deal than Eddie's $11mil. That means...

Lebron
Bosh
Gallo
Chandler
Douglas
Walker
Barron

...would be joined by another top player for NEXT YEAR. After that, we have our 2011 first rounder and we will have our full MLE to play with in subsequent years. Gallo and Chandler can be resigned for big $ because we have their bird rights. So all in all, it's not exactly true that Chicago is the only team built to win now. Rose without the ball in his hands is nothing special. You think Lebron is planning to let Rose run the show in Chitown? Me either.

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5/14/2010  11:15 AM
i would create a TMS' bukkake lounge thread but i'm pretty sure it would get locked
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