Come to think of it hardcore NYC hoopheads are probably even sick of eviscerating team management and ownership.

So wake me up at the start of next season. Not on July 1st, at the beginning of free agency. Not during the Nba draft. After every last free agent has signed. After every offseason trade and draf pick has been finished, THATS when I'll come up and see if we're on course or tryin to become the first car to drive from ny to la through Europe and Asia. But be warned I may hop out of the car in Europe and just give in to soccer.

Everybody needs some time...on their own.
Nothing lasts forever, and we both know hearts can change.

kam77 wrote:You're not the only one.

Everybody needs some time...on their own.
Nothing lasts forever, and we both know hearts can change.

Thanks guys. There is a light at the end of the tunnel...unless we sign 2nd tier players to 1st tier contracts for 10 years.

Kam...haha..

we've been through this such a long long time
just tryna kill the pain

i'm probably just talking **** and i'll be back on these boards tomorrow talking about signing CJ Watson and David Lee and saving the rest of the $ for Melo. FML right?

kam77 wrote:You're not the only one.

Everybody needs some time...on their own.
Nothing lasts forever, and we both know hearts can change.

thanks axl

I can't blame anyone on this board really. When the product ON the court is so crappy what can we do but look ahead to better days?

But you can really only read so many of these types of threads before you go absolutely nuts:

- David Lee sucks/is the greatest thing since slice bread threads before you go crazy.
- Joe Johnson is not worth the max/is worth the max
- Dammit we shoulda kept Crawford and Randolph
- Donnie Walsh better sign Wade and Lebron or the Jordan Hill trade screwed us
etc, etc

I think if the Knicks were at least..OK..during the regular season we wouldn't have beat these topics to death already.

AH well.

Anyone catch that Suns-Spurs game last night. The Suns seem a whole lot more resilient this season (or the Spurs are just getting old). Everytime the Spurs pulled even or close to it they just turned it on.

I have a TON of respect for the way the Spurs run their team. Love the stability in coaching which to me is great because players know that THEY are a lot more expendable than Pop is. Can you even imagine someone like Ariza or Nate complaining about minutes or playing styles or whatever on that team?

At the same time I think the refs and the NBA disciplinary committee absolutely bent the Suns over for that Horry hip check where they lost the series so..I'm rooting for the Suns and for Nash to win. San Antonio had absolutely no answer for the simple Nash/Amare pick n roll down the stretch.

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:I think I would enjoy it more if we hadn't already discussed it to death over the last 2 seasons.

I can't blame anyone on this board really. When the product ON the court is so crappy what can we do but look ahead to better days?

But you can really only read so many of these types of threads before you go absolutely nuts:

- David Lee sucks/is the greatest thing since slice bread threads before you go crazy.
- Joe Johnson is not worth the max/is worth the max
- Dammit we shoulda kept Crawford and Randolph
- Donnie Walsh better sign Wade and Lebron or the Jordan Hill trade screwed us
etc, etc

I think if the Knicks were at least..OK..during the regular season we wouldn't have beat these topics to death already.

AH well.

Anyone catch that Suns-Spurs game last night. The Suns seem a whole lot more resilient this season (or the Spurs are just getting old). Everytime the Spurs pulled even or close to it they just turned it on.

I have a TON of respect for the way the Spurs run their team. Love the stability in coaching which to me is great because players know that THEY are a lot more expendable than Pop is. Can you even imagine someone like Ariza or Nate complaining about minutes or playing styles or whatever on that team?

At the same time I think the refs and the NBA disciplinary committee absolutely bent the Suns over for that Horry hip check where they lost the series so..I'm rooting for the Suns and for Nash to win. San Antonio had absolutely no answer for the simple Nash/Amare pick n roll down the stretch.

NO doubt the redundant conversations are perpetuated. Its usually just a few dudes going at it who may have missed last months "Dlee value debate". Looks like thread count is low as there are few issues.

Then Arizona chimes in with a new law and enter "Bitty" to help us out.........

Panos wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:I think I would enjoy it more if we hadn't already discussed it to death over the last 2 seasons.

I can't blame anyone on this board really. When the product ON the court is so crappy what can we do but look ahead to better days?

But you can really only read so many of these types of threads before you go absolutely nuts:

- David Lee sucks/is the greatest thing since slice bread threads before you go crazy.
- Joe Johnson is not worth the max/is worth the max
- Dammit we shoulda kept Crawford and Randolph
- Donnie Walsh better sign Wade and Lebron or the Jordan Hill trade screwed us
etc, etc

I think if the Knicks were at least..OK..during the regular season we wouldn't have beat these topics to death already.

AH well.

Anyone catch that Suns-Spurs game last night. The Suns seem a whole lot more resilient this season (or the Spurs are just getting old). Everytime the Spurs pulled even or close to it they just turned it on.

I have a TON of respect for the way the Spurs run their team. Love the stability in coaching which to me is great because players know that THEY are a lot more expendable than Pop is. Can you even imagine someone like Ariza or Nate complaining about minutes or playing styles or whatever on that team?

At the same time I think the refs and the NBA disciplinary committee absolutely bent the Suns over for that Horry hip check where they lost the series so..I'm rooting for the Suns and for Nash to win. San Antonio had absolutely no answer for the simple Nash/Amare pick n roll down the stretch.

Don't forget the issue of MDA's handling of personnel.

Ha. There was actually a good article on MDA's phoenix days on the main site. Some in phoenix argue that MDA doesn't develop draft picks..which has been said here as well. But the author of the rebuttal made a great point. There weren't that many good young guys in Phoenix to develop and guys like Barbosa, Diaw, and Joe Johnson blossomed or had their career years under MDA.

Another good point. The Suns sold draft picks that became Rudy Fernandez, Rajon Rondo, Nate Robinson, Sergio Rodriguez, and Loul Deng. These were mainly, from what I remember, not picks traded for basketball reasons (to get rid of bad contracts or aquire stars) but for financial reasons. That is kinda sad. Phoenix came so close to going to the finals and I think even with just Rudy, Rondo, and Deng they woulda been DEEEEEEP.

At least Dolan has never made harmful basketbal decisions just to save himself some $. So I'm grateful for that...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Avw3RdM3xgzdL7mpR_iMU6S8vLYF?slug=jy-suns050610

For the record I would love to see Orlando upset Cleveland. Lebron to sulk off the floor again without shaking anyone's hand again.

Would love to see a Magic-Suns final.

Howard vs. Amare
Nash vs. the world

Orland 3 point shooters vs. Phoenix 3 pt shooters