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knicks1248
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4/29/2010  10:34 AM
It's like MDA was ridicule for benching nate by the fans, media, even nates agent..yet he's not even a rotation player on a good team and nobody says shhhht....not so much as a peep.

Some casual fan ask me this morning did boston waive Nate..LOL

Nate's going to be a FA his summer, he's not even considered a top of the list FA . Judging by the luke warm reception he got here when he came back, it's hard to belive he will even be in the league after a couple more years..

I thought he was a fan favorite.

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4/29/2010  10:37 AM
knicks1248 wrote:It's like MDA was ridicule for benching nate by the fans, media, even nates agent..yet he's not even a rotation player on a good team and nobody says shhhht....not so much as a peep.

Some casual fan ask me this morning did boston waive Nate..LOL

Nate's going to be a FA his summer, he's not even considered a top of the list FA . Judging by the luke warm reception he got here when he came back, it's hard to belive he will even be in the league after a couple more years..

I thought he was a fan favorite.

not for nothing but it is very tough to integrate a player in a midseason deal. and it's even tougher when you are team playing a certain way and are trying to incorporate a player like nate who is an off the bench scorer. it was a bad trade by the celtics b/c he doesn't fit their mold...just like signing marbury was somewhat ill advised also. but he can help a host of other teams...like cleveland + atlanta.

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4/29/2010  10:48 AM
I thought I read someone on this board said it was kind of Doc's MO not to trust young guards at all. Also that he had to run with Rondo because of all they gave up for KG
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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4/29/2010  11:04 AM
djsunyc wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:It's like MDA was ridicule for benching nate by the fans, media, even nates agent..yet he's not even a rotation player on a good team and nobody says shhhht....not so much as a peep.

Some casual fan ask me this morning did boston waive Nate..LOL

Nate's going to be a FA his summer, he's not even considered a top of the list FA . Judging by the luke warm reception he got here when he came back, it's hard to belive he will even be in the league after a couple more years..

I thought he was a fan favorite.

not for nothing but it is very tough to integrate a player in a midseason deal. and it's even tougher when you are team playing a certain way and are trying to incorporate a player like nate who is an off the bench scorer. it was a bad trade by the celtics b/c he doesn't fit their mold...just like signing marbury was somewhat ill advised also. but he can help a host of other teams...like cleveland + atlanta.

It was terrible trade, house was absolutely useless to us...had we not got Bill Dub in the deal, i certainly would have lost all faith for walsh and MDA.

I would never have expected Steph to turn out the way he did, actually I don't think anybody could have expected that it would have turned into a nightmare.

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4/29/2010  11:08 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:It's like MDA was ridicule for benching nate by the fans, media, even nates agent..yet he's not even a rotation player on a good team and nobody says shhhht....not so much as a peep.

Some casual fan ask me this morning did boston waive Nate..LOL

Nate's going to be a FA his summer, he's not even considered a top of the list FA . Judging by the luke warm reception he got here when he came back, it's hard to belive he will even be in the league after a couple more years..

I thought he was a fan favorite.

not for nothing but it is very tough to integrate a player in a midseason deal. and it's even tougher when you are team playing a certain way and are trying to incorporate a player like nate who is an off the bench scorer. it was a bad trade by the celtics b/c he doesn't fit their mold...just like signing marbury was somewhat ill advised also. but he can help a host of other teams...like cleveland + atlanta.

It was terrible trade, house was absolutely useless to us...had we not got Bill Dub in the deal, i certainly would have lost all faith for walsh and MDA.

I would never have expected Steph to turn out the way he did, actually I don't think anybody could have expected that it would have turned into a nightmare.

Walker is exactly the kind of player we need. 800k for a solid rotation guy. Giddens is a decent propect and deserves a look. How is this a bad trade?
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4/29/2010  11:11 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/29/2010  11:16 AM
Knicks1248 - you funny

the trade for Bill Walker was a Great deal for the Knicks. Mister Bill has demonsrated a polished skill set and excellent court awareness. His shooting percentage was excellent. Whatever Giddens contibutes is a bonus

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4/29/2010  11:27 AM
misterearl wrote:Knicks1248 - you funny

the trade for Bill Walker was a Great deal for the Knicks. Mister Bill has demonsrated a polished skill set and excellent court awareness. His shooting percentage was excellent. Whatever Giddens contibutes is a bonus

I agree, but lets be honest, Bill was a throw in, don't get me wrong i'm glad we got him.

But ask youself this....would you take bill over nate

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4/29/2010  11:54 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Knicks1248 - you funny

the trade for Bill Walker was a Great deal for the Knicks. Mister Bill has demonsrated a polished skill set and excellent court awareness. His shooting percentage was excellent. Whatever Giddens contibutes is a bonus

I agree, but lets be honest, Bill was a throw in, don't get me wrong i'm glad we got him.

But ask youself this....would you take bill over nate

Certainly. Nate had mad athleticism and clutch shooting, but his detractions from team cohesiveness balance out his contributions and then some. He had to go.

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4/29/2010  11:59 AM
House was a throw in to make the salary work.

Boston took a gamble and it has yet to pay off. Streaky undisiplined player like Nate works when your team is down 10 pts with 5 min to go and running out of steam. Not playoff player.

We treated Nate very well paying him a nice wage more than he should have. He has been given great consideration and appears his game awareness is stunted. Pun intended. Really no place for him on this team. He was given a chance to go to a playoff team and help the team and his value before unlimited free agency.

We traded him to an in-division rival. Knicks showed class by doing that and giving that opportinity. IN return we got a nice asset.

Win-win deals are good! I wish Nate well. His exile was not MDA"s fault. He has shown immaturity and a lack of understanding for three coaches in 5 years.

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4/29/2010  12:16 PM
Like I said, I see him playing over sea's next seaon..remember he didn't have one single team interested in him last season..
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4/29/2010  12:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/29/2010  12:20 PM
Knicks1248 - I would take Bill Walker over Nate every day if the week. It's not close. The only question regarding Walker is his knees, but that is an issue only because he drops out of the sky from so high up. Whatever criteria you use, I dare you to cite an area where Nate is superior to Walker

"go ahead, make my day"

What evidence in their recent performances are you comparing?

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4/29/2010  12:33 PM
misterearl wrote:Knicks1248 - I would take Bill Walker over Nate every day if the week. It's not close. The only question regarding Walker is his knees, but that is an issue only because he drops out of the sky from so high up. Whatever criteria you use, I dare you to cite an area where Nate is superior to Walker

"go ahead, make my day"

What evidence in their recent performances are you comparing?

No I'm not comparing the 2, I never compare players who play different position, I'm asking you for your respective take on the 2...

Your only saying that now since you have seen bill play, House was never the throw in player, bill was, every fan, coach, gm associated with the knicks didn't expect anything at all from BW.

Now it seems like everbody was well aware of what they were getting from bill, which is BS.
Had the trade go down as a straight up bill for nate, walsh would have been crucifide, cause most people didn't know jack about him, plus he was coming off a serious injury, which was awell documented

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4/29/2010  1:09 PM
Moochie Norris without the fro.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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4/29/2010  1:11 PM
Knicks1248 - stop it

you claimed it was a bad trade. Now you refuse to back your claim by stating you never compare players who ply different positions? (cough) Hilarious.

Cmon dude. It ain't that deep. Throw in, schmo in... Donnie got the better value, which is the objective of ANY trade, regardless of position. Bill Walker has been ballin at a high level since high school and was considered a lottery material before his knee issues. Research is a beautiful thing.

Did I mention that Bill Walker can play better defense?

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4/29/2010  1:14 PM
This will turn out to be a nice deal. Walker if he gets in shape is a solid rotation guy for the next two years. Walsh should have got more value for him last season at the deadline but we should be happy.

Nate needs to see a little floor time in this series. He can get to the rim at will and it's important to draw fouls on the Cleveland bigs. Finley doesn't bring much if anything to the table. And the Celtics need a little energy vs the Cavs. By the way Mo Williams sucks and will never make a big shot to seal a game.

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4/29/2010  1:14 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
But ask youself this....would you take bill over nate

Yes.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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4/29/2010  1:39 PM
misterearl wrote:Knicks1248 - stop it

you claimed it was a bad trade. Now you refuse to back your claim by stating you never compare players who ply different positions? (cough) Hilarious.

Cmon dude. It ain't that deep. Throw in, schmo in... Donnie got the better value, which is the objective of ANY trade, regardless of position. Bill Walker has been ballin at a high level since high school and was considered a lottery material before his knee issues. Research is a beautiful thing.

Did I mention that Bill Walker can play better defense?

I'm not backing down on anything, I said CLEARLY that if bill wasn't part of the deal it would have been a bad trade...would you compare Ewing to tim hardaway....gimme a break sun sun...who really knew about bill walker...Walsh and MDA said it themselves, they didn't know what to expect, now all of a sudden your like Bill walkers agent.

I like the kid and would love to keep him, but IF you had ask me(prior to the trade) to give up nate for bill walker with no throw ins, no picks, and a guy coming of a major knee operation, just because he could jump out of the gym...then im a chant "hell no we won't go" .

Now ask me that today with what I know and seen with my own 2 eyes, then "Hell yeah we want him here"

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4/29/2010  4:17 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Knicks1248 - stop it

you claimed it was a bad trade. Now you refuse to back your claim by stating you never compare players who ply different positions? (cough) Hilarious.

Cmon dude. It ain't that deep. Throw in, schmo in... Donnie got the better value, which is the objective of ANY trade, regardless of position. Bill Walker has been ballin at a high level since high school and was considered a lottery material before his knee issues. Research is a beautiful thing.

Did I mention that Bill Walker can play better defense?

I'm not backing down on anything, I said CLEARLY that if bill wasn't part of the deal it would have been a bad trade...would you compare Ewing to tim hardaway....gimme a break sun sun...who really knew about bill walker...Walsh and MDA said it themselves, they didn't know what to expect, now all of a sudden your like Bill walkers agent.

I like the kid and would love to keep him, but IF you had ask me(prior to the trade) to give up nate for bill walker with no throw ins, no picks, and a guy coming of a major knee operation, just because he could jump out of the gym...then im a chant "hell no we won't go" .

Now ask me that today with what I know and seen with my own 2 eyes, then "Hell yeah we want him here"

What do you mean if he wasn't part of it? He was. And you can say that about many trades. C'mon man...there really is no point to your argument.

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4/29/2010  5:53 PM
We miss Nate. but we're very happy with what we got in return.
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4/29/2010  6:30 PM
I don't miss Nate.
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