To be honest, Miami has a huge edge over us because they already have Wade and Florida has no state tax. Chicago also has an edge because they have a much better core in place.

I actually think this is currently the most likely scenario.

That could put us into a position of being in a bidding war for Lee just to not get even worse while having no draft picks (nor Hill) because we gave them all away trying to get EXTRA space (we already had plenty) and no way to fill it with quality players.

We could do trades, but who do we have (other than Curry) that we don't want to keep and how could it help us?

But if it did, we sign a combo of young players like Rudy Gay, Raymond Felton, Tyrus Thomas, Shaun Livingston and Amir Johnson but leave just enough room for next summer to go after a MAX FA like Carmelo Anthony.

iSergio wrote:This will never happen. We are not getting shut out.

But if it did, we sign a combo of young players like Rudy Gay, Raymond Felton, Tyrus Thomas, Shaun Livingston and Amir Johnson but leave just enough room for next summer to go after a MAX FA like Carmelo Anthony.

Carmelo Anthony? LMAO

You seriously believe he is going to chance the new CBA. I expect him to sign a max extension this upcoming season.

Pharzeone wrote:You're a hatter.

I am definitely not a hater. If I was I wouldn't be so sick about the fact that I honestly believe we are going to get shut out of all the elite players.

Some of the options listed are not bad players, but many are average or slightly above average at best. I don't think we should be making long term commitments to more than one of them (maybe a guy like Tyrus Thomas actually makes some sense regardless of whether we sign Lee or Bosh). Rudy Gay is a pretty good player, but he's wildly overrated and it would a monumental mistake to give him the type of money he's going to want.

If we could trade for Paul, that would obviously be great if we didn't give up or take back too much.

The thing that has me really upset is this.

We already had a lot of cap space before we made the /Jeffries/Hill/2012 pick/2011 pick swap/ trade for TMAC. We did that to get EXTRA cap space. If we don't use it and wait for 2011 instead that may have been the worst trade in franchise history behind Curry and Marbury. IF we didn't do that trade and simply waited until 2011 as we might anyway, Jeffries would have been off the cap anyway and we could have kept Hill and the picks to either trade or develop. Dumber than a rock!

ItalianStallion wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:You're a hatter.

I am definitely not a hater. If I was I wouldn't be so sick about the fact that I honestly believe we are going to get shut out of all the elite players.

Some of the options listed are not bad players, but many are average or slightly above average at best. I don't think we should be making long term commitments to more than one of them (maybe a guy like Tyrus Thomas actually makes some sense regardless of whether we sign Lee or Bosh). Rudy Gay is a pretty good player, but he's wildly overrated and it would a monumental mistake to give him the type of money he's going to want.

If we could trade for Paul, that would obviously be great if we didn't give up or take back too much.

The thing that has me really upset is this.

We already had a lot of cap space before we made the /Jeffries/Hill/2012 pick/2011 pick swap/ trade for TMAC. We did that to get EXTRA cap space. If we don't use it and wait for 2011 instead that may have been the worst trade in franchise history behind Curry and Marbury. IF we didn't do that trade and simply waited until 2011 as we might anyway, Jeffries would have been off the cap anyway and we could have kept Hill and the picks to either trade or develop. Dumber than a rock!

I said it the day we did it--up there with all of our terrible moves. Jordan wouldve kept developing and we couldve used Jefferies as an expiring anyway.

That would be a funny match up

C Andrew Bynum
PF Pau Gasol

C Emeka Okafor
PF Danilo Gallinari

ItalianStallion wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:You're a hatter.

I am definitely not a hater. If I was I wouldn't be so sick about the fact that I honestly believe we are going to get shut out of all the elite players.

Some of the options listed are not bad players, but many are average or slightly above average at best. I don't think we should be making long term commitments to more than one of them (maybe a guy like Tyrus Thomas actually makes some sense regardless of whether we sign Lee or Bosh). Rudy Gay is a pretty good player, but he's wildly overrated and it would a monumental mistake to give him the type of money he's going to want.

If we could trade for Paul, that would obviously be great if we didn't give up or take back too much.

The thing that has me really upset is this.

We already had a lot of cap space before we made the /Jeffries/Hill/2012 pick/2011 pick swap/ trade for TMAC. We did that to get EXTRA cap space. If we don't use it and wait for 2011 instead that may have been the worst trade in franchise history behind Curry and Marbury. IF we didn't do that trade and simply waited until 2011 as we might anyway, Jeffries would have been off the cap anyway and we could have kept Hill and the picks to either trade or develop. Dumber than a rock!

I was being sarcastic. If you question moves by the FO, you are deem a hatter.

Pharzeone wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:The guy who was behind the Jefferies/Hill picks trade should not make any more decisions for the Knicks. I don't think it was D walsh

who was it then?

I think it was probably Dolan influenced.

Pharzeone wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:The guy who was behind the Jefferies/Hill picks trade should not make any more decisions for the Knicks. I don't think it was D walsh

who was it then?

This is the girs from the utube who hates JJ...