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AnubisADL
Posts: 27382 Alba Posts: 13 Joined: 6/29/2009 Member: #2771 USA |
Now I can rock with a guy like this with solid size and NBA athleticism.
Please no Fredette. NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
AnubisADL wrote:Now I can rock with a guy like this with solid size and NBA athleticism. We could use all 3. If I had my pick if no Lebron who do you want next these 3 guys or Joe Johnson--I would take these 3 guys if we were playing lets make a deal. Could we make it happen--no. I like what Portland and Oklahoma are doing. I don't think you can leaprfrog progression. RIP Crushalot😞
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Finestrg
Posts: 27296 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/1/2006 Member: #1069 |
BRIGGS wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Now I can rock with a guy like this with solid size and NBA athleticism. I like all 3 of these guys (esp. Whiteside & Babbitt) and I agree we could use all three -- with or w/o a big FA or 2. And I agree that we shouldn't throw a boatload of money at Joe Johnson. We've been over this before - I just don't like the idea at all -- the man's a good player but he's a little older now and for the money he'll be looking for, I just don't think it'll be the right move for the franchise (it definitely has the feel of a real crippling move, one that we'll be paying the price for for a long time to come.. Nah, been there, done that. Not interested in going that route again)...It'll definitely feel like sloppy seconds to me if we wind up putting all our eggs in this guy's basket. He's gonna be looking for all-world money and he's just not that type of player. Unless LeBron was on board and he said go get me this guy, I'd stay away personally... Just curious why you think we couldn't swing a 3-piece like this in the draft. If these guys go where they're currently projected to go, it would have to take a little wheeling & dealing and a little creativity but I think we definitely have a shot at all 3 (again big IF on Hassan Whiteside -- to me he just isn't a 12-15 pick - he feels more like a top 4 pick - we'll just have to see)...I think we actually have some pretty decent assets available to help us move up in this draft --- you figure cash and our two fairly high 2010 2s (not to mention future 2s possibly) should be enough to crack the lower 1st round. Definitely once, hopefully twice. And then there's David Lee in a possible sign & trade (say he doesn't approve a S&T to go to Toronto for Bosh like many predict -- I bet we could put something else very decent together for him, possibly involving a decent NBA player or two, an expiring or two &/or a lottery pick or multiple picks)...Then there's Gallo, Chandler, TD, Walker...I would really make it a priority to shop everyone, esp. Chandler & Gallo (seperately & together) just to see what I could come up with. Good chance we could come up with a higher pick than 12. Rumor had it that we could have gotten pick 5 last year for Chandler... Nothing says we have to trade any of these guys (if I had to bet, the few guys we have committed money to are probably all back next year) but I at least want the idea thoroughly explored. Absolutely no one is untouchable (Lee's been our best player by far and there's a good chance he may not even be back)....I want Donnie to be involved in a lot of different discussions, not just sitting there on his hands waiting to pick 38th & 39th. Call me crazy but I actually think it'll be somewhat of a failure if all we come out of the draft with is those 2 2nd round selections. We need to put a whole squad together basically - I wanna see them go pedal to the metal and be super aggressive with this draft. I'm calling for 3 good players and I think it's doable...I don't think anyone on this board would complain if we got Whiteside, Babbitt & Fredette. That would be one hell of a draft... |
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Finestrg
Posts: 27296 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/1/2006 Member: #1069 |
Here's a little article on Babbitt I came across:
http://www.rgj.com/article/20100421/SPORTS06/4210435/1018/SPORTS I disagree with Dicky V on this guy. I think he's ready.. Even so, everything I read up until recently pointed toward this kid coming out in 2011. His declaring is a pleasant surprise and I think the right move. The time is right for him to come out. He's a damn good all-around player - I've thought so ever since I saw him a couple of times last year.. And he's only gotten better from when I saw him live (I didn't catch Nevada on TV this year unfortunately)...Babbitt's gonna be a good pro. Nothing left for him to prove at the college level -- if anything, staying could wind up hurting his stock like we've seen with a few guys also coming out this year, namely Willie Warren & Craig Brackins. Both of those two were surefire lottery picks last year; this year, the talk is that they'll be lucky to be picked in the first round (even though it's obvious to me that they both have 1st round talent all the way). Staying beyond what is necessary could definitely backfire and wind up being detrimental esp. if a player's good and has pro aspirations.. Not sure where Dicky V's coming from here -- there not much more Babbitt can do over what he accomplished & showed everyone this year..He'll be a steal for some team if he winds up going anywhere from 25 on down... |
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Anji
Posts: 25523 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 4/14/2006 Member: #1122 USA |
You have to think of the three this Baddit kid looks like the best fit. I hope we get a first rounder and look at him.
"Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
Finestrg wrote:Here's a little article on Babbitt I came across: If you look at all of the things he can do at his size--I mean how many players in the draft like that? When you are 6-9 and can handle the ball like a 2G shoot mid long have athletic finishing ability rebounding passing solid D. I would put him at the 2G in the nBA. RIP Crushalot😞
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Olbrannon
Posts: 21913 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 10/2/2009 Member: #2919 USA |
With the two picks that NYK has now. Possibles are such as Jarvis Varnardo and Sylvan Landesburg. Maybe Alabi..if he doesn't get first round and a guarantee may go finish his sheepskin and play in another NCAA. He hasn't signed yet.
I like Jeremy Lin, Trevor Booker as others that might be available late. Swapping proven players for high picks...nah. Buy a couple outright somebody has to need the cap space. Perhaps Charlotte? Maybe their number one and CP# for Chandler Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans
"The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
Olbrannon wrote:With the two picks that NYK has now. Possibles are such as Jarvis Varnardo and Sylvan Landesburg. Maybe Alabi..if he doesn't get first round and a guarantee may go finish his sheepskin and play in another NCAA. He hasn't signed yet. I think Whiteside would be worth it--as in trading a proven commodity and even waiting a year as he gains his 20 pounds and hones his skills. Were not winning a championship next year. I want to get players who I believe will be pieces that can fit for a run to the finals and hopefully winning it. I think Whiteside is 20 pounds away from being a very close version of Dwight Howard but he has better instinctive offensive skills. RIP Crushalot😞
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