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BRIGGS
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4/16/2010  11:42 AM
for pick 14 with Memphis if Whiteside is there I would do it. I like Wilson and I know we are trying to win now but with 35mm in cap--I think that position will be replaced. Wilson can replace Rudy gay if he goes and we can pick up an athletic 7 footer who really is the best shot blocker to come along in quite some time. On top of which he has some nice skills that only need to be honed and a body that can fill out quite nicely. I think it terms of cap we'd gain close to another mm.
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4/16/2010  1:51 PM
That's a reasonable idea - especially since Walker is looking like a starting 2 and, assuming we either re-sign Lee or sign Bosch, we're fine at forward.
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4/16/2010  1:56 PM
wilson for the 14th pick?

not a good deal from where i stand. wilson is a proven pro with some potential. don't know much about the player, but to deal will for a college player with zero pro experience picked in the middle of the first round...

no sale.

however, i would be more inclined to deal him for rubio

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4/16/2010  2:00 PM
BRIGGS wrote:for pick 14 with Memphis if Whiteside is there I would do it. I like Wilson and I know we are trying to win now but with 35mm in cap--I think that position will be replaced. Wilson can replace Rudy gay if he goes and we can pick up an athletic 7 footer who really is the best shot blocker to come along in quite some time. On top of which he has some nice skills that only need to be honed and a body that can fill out quite nicely. I think it terms of cap we'd gain close to another mm.

So it doesn't matter if they want to keep Gay and he is a RFA and the period doesn't start til after the draft. You want the Grizzlies to just fork over their 14th pick any way for a player that will fill the same role as Gay. If I'm a Grizzlies fan explain why this makes sense to me and how it is a good deal for my team.

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4/16/2010  2:12 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:for pick 14 with Memphis if Whiteside is there I would do it. I like Wilson and I know we are trying to win now but with 35mm in cap--I think that position will be replaced. Wilson can replace Rudy gay if he goes and we can pick up an athletic 7 footer who really is the best shot blocker to come along in quite some time. On top of which he has some nice skills that only need to be honed and a body that can fill out quite nicely. I think it terms of cap we'd gain close to another mm.

So it doesn't matter if they want to keep Gay and he is a RFA and the period doesn't start til after the draft. You want the Grizzlies to just fork over their 14th pick any way for a player that will fill the same role as Gay. If I'm a Grizzlies fan explain why this makes sense to me and how it is a good deal for my team.

Even if Memphis retains Gay--they are so poor on the bench that it makes tremendous sense for them. NY needs to bring in a guy who can legitimately play C even if he needs some time to develop. If Whiteside can gain 20 pounds of muscle and hone his skills--he will be an NBA all star by year 3. I honestly do not believe Whiteside will last to 14

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4/16/2010  2:20 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
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BRIGGS wrote:for pick 14 with Memphis if Whiteside is there I would do it. I like Wilson and I know we are trying to win now but with 35mm in cap--I think that position will be replaced. Wilson can replace Rudy gay if he goes and we can pick up an athletic 7 footer who really is the best shot blocker to come along in quite some time. On top of which he has some nice skills that only need to be honed and a body that can fill out quite nicely. I think it terms of cap we'd gain close to another mm.

So it doesn't matter if they want to keep Gay and he is a RFA and the period doesn't start til after the draft. You want the Grizzlies to just fork over their 14th pick any way for a player that will fill the same role as Gay. If I'm a Grizzlies fan explain why this makes sense to me and how it is a good deal for my team.

Even if Memphis retains Gay--they are so poor on the bench that it makes tremendous sense for them. NY needs to bring in a guy who can legitimately play C even if he needs some time to develop. If Whiteside can gain 20 pounds of muscle and hone his skills--he will be an NBA all star by year 3. I honestly do not believe Whiteside will last to 14

Once again why would Memphis give up a pick to accomplish this? Wouldn't they use their own pick to help their bench. Not to hammer you but this trade is made only with the Knicks in mind. This could be a deep draft you have to give a team a real solid reason to move a pick.

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4/16/2010  2:22 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:
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BRIGGS wrote:for pick 14 with Memphis if Whiteside is there I would do it. I like Wilson and I know we are trying to win now but with 35mm in cap--I think that position will be replaced. Wilson can replace Rudy gay if he goes and we can pick up an athletic 7 footer who really is the best shot blocker to come along in quite some time. On top of which he has some nice skills that only need to be honed and a body that can fill out quite nicely. I think it terms of cap we'd gain close to another mm.

So it doesn't matter if they want to keep Gay and he is a RFA and the period doesn't start til after the draft. You want the Grizzlies to just fork over their 14th pick any way for a player that will fill the same role as Gay. If I'm a Grizzlies fan explain why this makes sense to me and how it is a good deal for my team.

Even if Memphis retains Gay--they are so poor on the bench that it makes tremendous sense for them. NY needs to bring in a guy who can legitimately play C even if he needs some time to develop. If Whiteside can gain 20 pounds of muscle and hone his skills--he will be an NBA all star by year 3. I honestly do not believe Whiteside will last to 14

Once again why would Memphis give up a pick to accomplish this? Wouldn't they use their own pick to help their bench. Not to hammer you but this trade is made only with the Knicks in mind. This could be a deep draft you have to give a team a real solid reason to move a pick.

I don't know if you noticed but Wilson Chandler is a very good player who is proven. They tried putting draft picks all over their bench and it backfired.

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4/16/2010  3:00 PM
PresIke wrote:wilson for the 14th pick?

not a good deal from where i stand. wilson is a proven pro with some potential. don't know much about the player, but to deal will for a college player with zero pro experience picked in the middle of the first round...

no sale.

however, i would be more inclined to deal him for Rubio

+1 to that.

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4/16/2010  3:11 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:for pick 14 with Memphis if Whiteside is there I would do it. I like Wilson and I know we are trying to win now but with 35mm in cap--I think that position will be replaced. Wilson can replace Rudy gay if he goes and we can pick up an athletic 7 footer who really is the best shot blocker to come along in quite some time. On top of which he has some nice skills that only need to be honed and a body that can fill out quite nicely. I think it terms of cap we'd gain close to another mm.

So it doesn't matter if they want to keep Gay and he is a RFA and the period doesn't start til after the draft. You want the Grizzlies to just fork over their 14th pick any way for a player that will fill the same role as Gay. If I'm a Grizzlies fan explain why this makes sense to me and how it is a good deal for my team.

Even if Memphis retains Gay--they are so poor on the bench that it makes tremendous sense for them. NY needs to bring in a guy who can legitimately play C even if he needs some time to develop. If Whiteside can gain 20 pounds of muscle and hone his skills--he will be an NBA all star by year 3. I honestly do not believe Whiteside will last to 14

Once again why would Memphis give up a pick to accomplish this? Wouldn't they use their own pick to help their bench. Not to hammer you but this trade is made only with the Knicks in mind. This could be a deep draft you have to give a team a real solid reason to move a pick.

I don't know if you noticed but Wilson Chandler is a very good player who is proven. They tried putting draft picks all over their bench and it backfired.

I a big fan of Chandler but from the standpoint of making a realistic deal, you have to give the Grizzlies help at a position where there is a significant need for and makes sense for them. Now I can understand making a trade after the draft if they fail to re-sign Gay but you can't expect them to make such a move before they had a run at their RFA that they want to bring back.

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4/16/2010  3:21 PM
PresIke wrote:wilson for the 14th pick?

not a good deal from where i stand. wilson is a proven pro with some potential. don't know much about the player, but to deal will for a college player with zero pro experience picked in the middle of the first round...

no sale.

however, i would be more inclined to deal him for rubio

Whiteside is 20 pounds away from being Dwight Howard 2.0

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4/16/2010  3:25 PM
No chance in hell the guy has the ability to play 3 positions. Not to mention he will have a full offseason to work out which he didn't last season. Yes he is inconsistent, but he has the ability to dominate in the right situation. A draft pick will not.

It's going to be interesting if we do get Lebron because Douglas, Chandler, Gallo are going to look very special.

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4/16/2010  3:26 PM
I would offer Wilson Chandler and Eddy Curry to Golden State for CJ Watson and Biedrins.
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4/16/2010  3:35 PM
crzymdups wrote:I would offer Wilson Chandler and Eddy Curry to Golden State for CJ Watson and Biedrins.

I probably wouldn't mind that trade at all...except for the fact that would never play Biedrins. I bet D'Antoni would jump all over that deal if you substituted Radmanovic for Biedrins lol

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4/16/2010  3:35 PM
This off season is not about the draft....even Donnie said it. Unless the Knicks had 1-5, and that's impossible cuz of Isiah, the draft is useless. Knicks are writing checks this summer....pure checks.
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4/16/2010  4:17 PM
BRIGGS wrote:for pick 14 with Memphis if Whiteside is there I would do it. I like Wilson and I know we are trying to win now but with 35mm in cap--I think that position will be replaced. Wilson can replace Rudy gay if he goes and we can pick up an athletic 7 footer who really is the best shot blocker to come along in quite some time. On top of which he has some nice skills that only need to be honed and a body that can fill out quite nicely. I think it terms of cap we'd gain close to another mm.

Briggs - you would have done the same thing last year with Gallo for BJ Mullens.

Where would that have gotten us?

Putting your faith in un-known rookies is a good-way to catch yourself on fire.

With the right stars -- we'll just need a serviceable defensive minded big. We can get that relatively cheap - no sense to throwing in a young starting SG/SF for a big kid who could just as soon turn out to be a Yohan Petro, Robert Swift or Saer Sene.

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BRIGGS wrote:for pick 14 with Memphis if Whiteside is there I would do it. I like Wilson and I know we are trying to win now but with 35mm in cap--I think that position will be replaced. Wilson can replace Rudy gay if he goes and we can pick up an athletic 7 footer who really is the best shot blocker to come along in quite some time. On top of which he has some nice skills that only need to be honed and a body that can fill out quite nicely. I think it terms of cap we'd gain close to another mm.

Briggs - you would have done the same thing last year with Gallo for BJ Mullens.

Where would that have gotten us?

Putting your faith in un-known rookies is a good-way to catch yourself on fire.

With the right stars -- we'll just need a serviceable defensive minded big. We can get that relatively cheap - no sense to throwing in a young starting SG/SF for a big kid who could just as soon turn out to be a Yohan Petro, Robert Swift or Saer Sene.

I would've done the deal for Curry. During the middle of last season I thought B J Mullens was on his way to a top 10 pick. After a slow start he really came on but leveled off. I believe I said if we acquire a second pick I would take Mullens with it. A pretty good GM did that and lets see where Mullens is in 2 more years. My continuous goal is to find a C for this team. Whiteside is a particularly attractive C prospect because he has the frame to put on 20 pounds and has the same kind of run/jump athleticism that D Howard has--I mean he has it today. He also has a 12 footer with good form--he was the best freshmen shotblocker in major college basketball in over 25 years. Clearly this guy has tremendous physical talent from the most difficult position--If the team did what I wanted to do over the years we would already have Amare Studmore Andrew Bynum and Brook Lopez. This guy kind of fits MDA's style a bit more. He's got a chance to be a special NBA player given time.

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4/17/2010  9:06 AM
Why is Will Chan always the first guy mentioned in trades...The guy right now is one of two guys(D. Lee) who is the eiptome of a true Knick player...Hard working, decent defender(not D.Lee), understated, and shows up to play the game every night...U guys are so willing to give those intangibles away for nothing...The very thing this team has been lacking the last 10 years...He is the second best player right now on the team...Let trade him for the 14th pick...Nice...
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4/17/2010  9:32 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/17/2010  9:32 AM
holfresh wrote:Why is Will Chan always the first guy mentioned in trades...The guy right now is one of two guys(D. Lee) who is the eiptome of a true Knick player...Hard working, decent defender(not D.Lee), understated, and shows up to play the game every night...U guys are so willing to give those intangibles away for nothing...The very thing this team has been lacking the last 10 years...He is the second best player right now on the team...Let trade him for the 14th pick...Nice...

Chandler is mentioned because he is the lesser player of who we have in Lee and Gallo and who we are targeting in Bosh, Amare, Boozer, LeBron, Joe Johnson.

Chandler is also NOT A TWO GUARD. So if you retain Gallo and keep Lee or aquire the aforementioned players... Chandler could only play 2 guard of which he is not.

Even if we keep Lee and only get Joe Johnson there isn't really a place for Wilson Chandler. Lee-Gallo-Joe Johnson. And don't tell me that's our C-F-F lineup and put Chandler at SG and be happy with that. That would STINK.

He's also a poor decision maker, takes more bad shots than any of the aforementioned players, has a lower ceiling than any of the aforementioned players, and since he's been out we have seen several players step up and do more as a team unit than when Will was in the game slowing things down and taking too many shots.

So he's odd man out by default. He's also a good trade asset to try to bring in a starting caliber point guard to put alongside these other forwards we will either retain or acquire.

Even if we keep Lee and only get Joe Johnson there isn't really a place for Wilson Chandler.

He's just odd man out by default AND a good trade asset.

So it makes perfect sense he'd be mentioned in trades.

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4/17/2010  9:42 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/17/2010  9:44 AM
Cosmic wrote:
holfresh wrote:Why is Will Chan always the first guy mentioned in trades...The guy right now is one of two guys(D. Lee) who is the eiptome of a true Knick player...Hard working, decent defender(not D.Lee), understated, and shows up to play the game every night...U guys are so willing to give those intangibles away for nothing...The very thing this team has been lacking the last 10 years...He is the second best player right now on the team...Let trade him for the 14th pick...Nice...

Chandler is mentioned because he is the lesser player of who we have in Lee and Gallo and who we are targeting in Bosh, Amare, Boozer, LeBron, Joe Johnson.

Chandler is also NOT A TWO GUARD. So if you retain Gallo and keep Lee or aquire the aforementioned players... Chandler could only play 2 guard of which he is not.

Even if we keep Lee and only get Joe Johnson there isn't really a place for Wilson Chandler. Lee-Gallo-Joe Johnson. And don't tell me that's our C-F-F lineup and put Chandler at SG and be happy with that. That would STINK.

He's also a poor decision maker, takes more bad shots than any of the aforementioned players, has a lower ceiling than any of the aforementioned players, and since he's been out we have seen several players step up and do more as a team unit than when Will was in the game slowing things down and taking too many shots.

So he's odd man out by default. He's also a good trade asset to try to bring in a starting caliber point guard to put alongside these other forwards we will either retain or acquire.

Even if we keep Lee and only get Joe Johnson there isn't really a place for Wilson Chandler.

He's just odd man out by default AND a good trade asset.

So it makes perfect sense he'd be mentioned in trades.

Right this very day..Chandler is better than Gallo...He has played better all season when in game together..How does Gallo start ahead of Chandler, the coach?

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4/17/2010  10:21 AM
I dont like this deal but i would not be surprised at all if Wilson is traded this summer.

Think about it, he is our ONLY expendable trade chip, and we need 2 positions badly C, PG that are not aailable in free agency outside of Camby

If I could trade out Wilson Chandler

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