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Bippity10
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4/14/2010  3:02 PM
Jury is still out on these two but it appears that the long-term results will be a lot closer then some of us originally suspected. Should we still fire scouts for making the community pick?
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4/14/2010  3:30 PM
I never bought into the naysayers on Gallo. The thing is he has a great shot to be a premeire player one day and I love his mental make up. Randolph's mental makeup is the only thing I'd worry about with him. He's got loads of talent. I would be very happy if we could somehow get Randolph. I've always had a curiosity with trying to put a really big squad together full of talented guys that play like guards but are big. Livingston, Randolph, Gallo etc. Guys that are so well rounded, athletic and long. Durant types. Then u could have a Tyrus type of big in there to play goalie. MDA stresses playing the passing lanes so really quick guys or guys with length and quick hands do well in his scheme. I think both Gallo n Randolph have good futures.
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4/14/2010  3:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/14/2010  3:35 PM
Anthony Randolph needs to get a jump shot. He is still a beast though.

Would love to trade for him. Gallo and Randolph at the forward spots would be sweet.

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4/14/2010  3:36 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Anthony Randolph needs to get a jump shot. He is still a beast though.

Would love to trade for him. Gallo and Randolph at the forward spots would be sweet.

theres something you and i can agree on anubis

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4/14/2010  3:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/14/2010  3:42 PM
They've definitely reversed roles in many ways. Randolph is oft-injured with fans and management questioning his viability as a pro now, while Gallo looks fairly strong.
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4/14/2010  3:56 PM
I think they both suffer from head issues. I think Gallo sometimes is content to lay low and be a secondary peice until something "motivates" him. This past month or so without Nate adn with Al hurt/secondary role it should give him confidence to understand his role with the team. Until he does he will be inconsistent. But that is part of being a young guy, you have to learn that.

Randolph's head in my view holds him back too. I'm not an expert on the guy but he seems to really struggle when things aren't going his way. When he is playing well he is a beast. When the guy opposite him is equally athletic but stronger and more physical he appears to lose confidence in his game. They both have a ways to go, but both show some great potential.

This past month has really quited Gallo's naysayers. He may never be a franchise star but he has proven time and time again that he is more than "just a jumpshooter" and just shows that people really weren't analyzing his game but were just acting on emotions. Do you think that after watching Gallo and Toney and David Lee that NY fans will finally learn that you have to give these guys time before we finalize their careers.

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4/14/2010  3:57 PM
Galo is alrady the man, Randolf is still little kid... mentally.
But some of this NBA kids never growup. Will see...
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4/14/2010  4:09 PM
Bippity10 wrote:Jury is still out on these two but it appears that the long-term results will be a lot closer then some of us originally suspected. Should we still fire scouts for making the community pick?

Yes to firing. I think the leg stiffness is permanent.

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4/14/2010  4:51 PM
LOL, so now it's ok to make comparisons. Last year we couldn't do it because Gallinari was hurt but since Randolph is hurt no problem. Yeah sounds about right. Before he got hurt he was putting up double doubles on a regular basis. Still waiting for Gallo to bust out on that rather then waiting for his team to get out of it before making shots. Right now Anthony Randolph is still in the mold of KG for me and Gallo is on a path similar to JR Smith. I look at the entire game not just periods for production.
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4/14/2010  4:59 PM
What Lee shows is that you have to really try hard to see what kind of drive and desire a players has to be great. He's come so far from his 1st season and I think in general it shows you have to be patient. I'd love to take some of G.S. young talent off their hands. Morrow and Randolph really peak my interest.
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4/14/2010  5:11 PM
whats the point in keeping him when the minute we get some top tier guys he will resort to hanging out beyond the 3 point line.
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4/14/2010  5:14 PM
knicks1248 wrote:whats the point in keeping him when the minute we get some top tier guys he will resort to hanging out beyond the 3 point line.

gotta hope the coaches are drillin the guy to not do that... take advantage of his height mismatches, try and draw fouls... he starts doing that, he will be harder to defend and could help the team out quite a bit.

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4/14/2010  5:36 PM
Pharzeone wrote:LOL, so now it's ok to make comparisons. Last year we couldn't do it because Gallinari was hurt but since Randolph is hurt no problem. Yeah sounds about right. Before he got hurt he was putting up double doubles on a regular basis. Still waiting for Gallo to bust out on that rather then waiting for his team to get out of it before making shots. Right now Anthony Randolph is still in the mold of KG for me and Gallo is on a path similar to JR Smith. I look at the entire game not just periods for production.

IF you read the post thoroughly you will find quotes like

"the jury is still out on these two guys"
"I think they both suffer from head issues"
"Do you think that after watching Gallo and Toney and David Lee that NY fans will finally learn that you have to give these guys time before we finalize their careers."

This post has nothing to do iwth saying one is better then the other and everything to do with trying to help some psychotics to stop analyzing with your emotions and analyze with your eyes. Some may still think that Gallo was not worth it. That's fine. They may be right. Randolph may end up being the better pro(remember jury is still out). But I am clearly making fun of those that call themselves talent evaluators that called Gallo, TD and Jordan Hill busts 1 month into their careers while annointing guys like Randolph and Lopez and the rest of the gang all-time greats.

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4/14/2010  5:38 PM
knicks1248 wrote:whats the point in keeping him when the minute we get some top tier guys he will resort to hanging out beyond the 3 point line.

It's very possible. I think this is what Gallo will have to wrestle with the most while he is developing his skills. He's already proven that he can score and do a lot of the little things. He's also proven that he has the ability to run and hide and hope that others can carry the team. A true star would not take star does not defer to Al Harrington and Nate Robinson and watch them carry the team to 30 wins. A true star at this age may not have the talent to lift a team to prominence but he's going to do all he can to put it on his shoulders(see Tyreke Evans for evidence).

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4/14/2010  5:41 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:LOL, so now it's ok to make comparisons. Last year we couldn't do it because Gallinari was hurt but since Randolph is hurt no problem. Yeah sounds about right. Before he got hurt he was putting up double doubles on a regular basis. Still waiting for Gallo to bust out on that rather then waiting for his team to get out of it before making shots. Right now Anthony Randolph is still in the mold of KG for me and Gallo is on a path similar to JR Smith. I look at the entire game not just periods for production.

IF you read the post thoroughly you will find quotes like

"the jury is still out on these two guys"
"I think they both suffer from head issues"
"Do you think that after watching Gallo and Toney and David Lee that NY fans will finally learn that you have to give these guys time before we finalize their careers."

This post has nothing to do iwth saying one is better then the other and everything to do with trying to help some psychotics to stop analyzing with your emotions and analyze with your eyes. Some may still think that Gallo was not worth it. That's fine. They may be right. Randolph may end up being the better pro(remember jury is still out). But I am clearly making fun of those that call themselves talent evaluators that called Gallo, TD and Jordan Hill busts 1 month into their careers while annointing guys like Randolph and Lopez and the rest of the gang all-time greats.

Bip within your thread there were comparisons. Not just your post but as I said we couldn't compare them last year because Gallo was hurt but Randolph was already putting up double doubles this season before his injury. I would say based on their production Randolph is what this team vastly needs. I state the same with Hill. Rebounding and defense.

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4/14/2010  5:43 PM
You've gotta allow time for Gallo to grow into what he's gonna become. He's going to get stronger naturally and hopefully cuz he's working on his body. That and more work on his post game should give him all the confidence he needs to be a dominant player.

And Pharz, there were so many people saying we blew the pick cuz Gallo was damaged goods and so now that Randolph has had his bout with injury they're both in the same boat. The tone of your post sounds like you believe Randolph has reached some higher level and it's all said and done. Both guys are still up in the air.
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4/14/2010  5:57 PM
nixluva wrote:You've gotta allow time for Gallo to grow into what he's gonna become. He's going to get stronger naturally and hopefully cuz he's working on his body. That and more work on his post game should give him all the confidence he needs to be a dominant player.

And Pharz, there were so many people saying we blew the pick cuz Gallo was damaged goods and so now that Randolph has had his bout with injury they're both in the same boat. The tone of your post sounds like you believe Randolph has reached some higher level and it's all said and done. Both guys are still up in the air.

Yeah. I already watch Randolph battle the Duncans, Gasols, Mings and Shaqs and come out pretty well. I'm watching Gallo chase around point guards. They were projected PFs, for what they were drafted for I think Randolph is on another level. While we are admiring what Gallo is doing in March and April, Randolph did last year but started this season scoring, rebounding and blocking shots at impressive rate. When given minutes he seem not to have a problem with production. Hey Lopez got them both beat right now so who knows.

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4/14/2010  6:11 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
This past month has really quited Gallo's naysayers. He may never be a franchise star but he has proven time and time again that he is more than "just a jumpshooter" and just shows that people really weren't analyzing his game but were just acting on emotions. Do you think that after watching Gallo and Toney and David Lee that NY fans will finally learn that you have to give these guys time before we finalize their careers?

The answer to your question is NO. For many on UK, showing "fan patience" with an individual player is not a virtue, but rather a waste of precious time. It seems to be a lot easier to make judgements about players before all the evidence is in and hope their comments are not remembered, than to wait for a young player to have some time to evolve.

I think this is par for the course for fans of teams which have lived through an extended period of poor records, bad luck, and bad decisions by their brass, but young players, especially those who are still developing, don't deserve the criticism, which sometimes seems poorly reasoned, hateful and downright immature to an elderly gent like myself, that is thrown at them around here.

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4/14/2010  6:16 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
This post has nothing to do iwth saying one is better then the other and everything to do with trying to help some psychotics to stop analyzing with your emotions and analyze with your eyes. Some may still think that Gallo was not worth it. That's fine. They may be right. Randolph may end up being the better pro(remember jury is still out). But I am clearly making fun of those that call themselves talent evaluators that called Gallo, TD and Jordan Hill busts 1 month into their careers while annointing guys like Randolph and Lopez and the rest of the gang all-time greats.

Yup... and they deserve to be poked.

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4/14/2010  6:56 PM

What you guys have to understand is AnthonyRandolph is a young player who had to deal with the unpredictable Don Nelson who's known to get in players head who ran Webber, Harrington, S.Jackson etc.. among others out of GS with his Jekyl Hyde persona. Randolph can play pt forward , bring the ball up , block shots , play defense, knock down the open jumper start the break and finish on the break and defend the paint as a help defender. What this kid could do with a real coach in his corner the sky could be the limit. Lamar Odom was quoted saying, "this kid is a future all-pro". Under the proper tuteledge this kid would show and demonstrate the kind of player the fans in NY would pay to come and see night in and night out.

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