CrushAlot wrote:Walsh can not yet be heralded as turning around the Knicks as some have begun to do. In fact, Walsh failed in his two-pronged bid to clear 2010 cap space while remaining competitive the past two seasons and building an array of young building blocks prospective free agents are salivating to team up with. The Knicks were out of the playoff race the last week of March last season, and at the Feb. 18 trade deadline this season.

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I thought this was a pretty accurate assessment of what has occurred under this year. Hopefully the free agent stars want to play for an Olympic Team Assistant Coach really badly.

what's funny is that Donnie Walsh has always maintained that he wanted to remain competitive while clearing cap space all along... yet for some reason some posters have come to the conclusion that his plan was to tear down the mess Isiah left behind, competitiveness be damned, in order to make a big splash in the summer of 2010... i dunno about anyone else but i try to take a man's word at his intention & not inject my own made up interpretations into their meaning... when a GM says he wants to stay competitive, i take him at his word... when a coach says developing the youth is his #1 priority, i take him at his word... seems to me like these guys can say whatever the heck they want & never be held accountable... it's no wonder the Knicks are still drawing fans to the games to witness the pathetic product they've been putting on the court when you have fans willing to buy anything & everything they want to throw at them with no complaints.

TMS wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Walsh can not yet be heralded as turning around the Knicks as some have begun to do. In fact, Walsh failed in his two-pronged bid to clear 2010 cap space while remaining competitive the past two seasons and building an array of young building blocks prospective free agents are salivating to team up with. The Knicks were out of the playoff race the last week of March last season, and at the Feb. 18 trade deadline this season.

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I thought this was a pretty accurate assessment of what has occurred under this year. Hopefully the free agent stars want to play for an Olympic Team Assistant Coach really badly.

what's funny is that Donnie Walsh has always maintained that he wanted to remain competitive while clearing cap space all along... yet for some reason some posters have come to the conclusion that his plan was to tear down the mess Isiah left behind, competitiveness be damned, in order to make a big splash in the summer of 2010... i dunno about anyone else but i try to take a man's word at his intention & not inject my own made up interpretations into their meaning... when a GM says he wants to stay competitive, i take him at his word... when a coach says developing the youth is his #1 priority, i take him at his word... seems to me like these guys can say whatever the heck they want & never be held accountable... it's no wonder the Knicks are still drawing fans to the games to witness the pathetic product they've been putting on the court when you have fans willing to buy anything & everything they want to throw at them with no complaints.

some folks think they still were going after the playoffs as well... cant be both. my view is if the past 2 yrs were not about winning (which i dont think they had a chance given the roster), then it should have been about finding some young cheap talent + getting the rooks young guys under contract for 2010+ ready. not a lesson, should be an axiom -- cant buy anything these guys say (players/coaches/FO) until they commit to doing it.

FO still has time before the pitch forks break out though.

skeng wrote:

TMS wrote:
FO still has time before the pitch forks break out though.

when was the last time the pitch forks broke out? just asking out of curiosity

dunno if u'r addressing me but i didn't make that comment you just quoted... but i agree, this franchise never holds anyone accountable for their fukkups... they just buy out the contracts they signed guys to & let them go on their merry way... hopefully Donnie's plan isn't another fukkup & we can all join together someday in singing his praises... until i see some positive results i think i'll hold off.

sidsanders wrote:

TMS wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Walsh can not yet be heralded as turning around the Knicks as some have begun to do. In fact, Walsh failed in his two-pronged bid to clear 2010 cap space while remaining competitive the past two seasons and building an array of young building blocks prospective free agents are salivating to team up with. The Knicks were out of the playoff race the last week of March last season, and at the Feb. 18 trade deadline this season.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/knicks_latest_debacle_almost_over_gTfa4KRqlxSjLDmd8yKOgK#ixzz0kjwCjcll
I thought this was a pretty accurate assessment of what has occurred under this year. Hopefully the free agent stars want to play for an Olympic Team Assistant Coach really badly.

what's funny is that Donnie Walsh has always maintained that he wanted to remain competitive while clearing cap space all along... yet for some reason some posters have come to the conclusion that his plan was to tear down the mess Isiah left behind, competitiveness be damned, in order to make a big splash in the summer of 2010... i dunno about anyone else but i try to take a man's word at his intention & not inject my own made up interpretations into their meaning... when a GM says he wants to stay competitive, i take him at his word... when a coach says developing the youth is his #1 priority, i take him at his word... seems to me like these guys can say whatever the heck they want & never be held accountable... it's no wonder the Knicks are still drawing fans to the games to witness the pathetic product they've been putting on the court when you have fans willing to buy anything & everything they want to throw at them with no complaints.

some folks think they still were going after the playoffs as well... cant be both. my view is if the past 2 yrs were not about winning (which i dont think they had a chance given the roster), then it should have been about finding some young cheap talent + getting the rooks young guys under contract for 2010+ ready. not a lesson, should be an axiom -- cant buy anything these guys say (players/coaches/FO) until they commit to doing it.

FO still has time before the pitch forks break out though.

completely agree w/u on that point... i never felt we had a realistic shot at competing the past 2 years... i would have much preferred if we'd concentrated on amassing as much young talent as possible during that time so we'd have the pieces in place to execute a potential franchise changing trade, sorta like how the Celtics went about things & were able to go from bottom dwellers to champions in 1 summer... apparently that method only makes sense for other franchises.