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kam77
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4/9/2010  9:55 PM
Because he keeps blowing up.

"This is a difficult system for me to play in. I'm just out there standing on the perimeter....I'm a rhythm shooter.. need the ball in my hands.... and i'm just standing out there taking jump shots... can't get in a rhythm like that."

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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4/9/2010  10:15 PM
I knew that sooner or later this diva would start crying. This douche isn't even thankful we gave his has-been ass to play in some NBA games. If it wasn't for us he'd still be in Houston working out at his house. Hopefully he joins his jackass cousin in Orlando in the summer and we never have to hear from him again.
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4/9/2010  10:30 PM
I think D'Antoni was ready to hand the team over to McGrady especially after his first game. I think he is physically unable to perform at a level that dictates his being able to be treated as a superstar. I don't think he ever will be able to come back but I have read that doctors believe that he should recover and play at a high level again.
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4/9/2010  10:31 PM
He really shot his mouth off. What did he want? The ball every play?

Drop this crosseyed **** and don't look back.

Arrogant piece of trash who never helped any team win...just went for his then complained when the team lost "I did my job my teammates didn't help me."

Yeah, Fuck you T-Shit.

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4/10/2010  12:05 AM
My favorite player growing up.

Sad he is making excuses. Guy doesnt have the elevation he used to get on those jumpers. He used to just raise over guys and drain shots. Dude has no legs and wants to blame the coach. Sad indeed.

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4/10/2010  12:09 AM
i think he's pretty dead on with his comments... the system this team is playing right now has everyone standing on the perimeter waiting to launch up jumpshots... there is zero movement without the ball outside of the P&R on every single damn possession... i sincerely hope MDA's system next year isn't a repeat of this pathetic mess i've been witness to this year.
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4/10/2010  1:08 AM
TMS wrote:i think he's pretty dead on with his comments... the system this team is playing right now has everyone standing on the perimeter waiting to launch up jumpshots... there is zero movement without the ball outside of the P&R on every single damn possession... i sincerely hope MDA's system next year isn't a repeat of this pathetic mess i've been witness to this year.

C'mon, cut some slack. It's not like he has Steve Nash playing for him. It's amazing how good a hall of fame point guard can make you're offense look. Still the same, T-Mac needs to shut his pie hole. He should at least try and prove that Houston overreacted when they banished him from the bench.

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4/10/2010  8:19 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
TMS wrote:i think he's pretty dead on with his comments... the system this team is playing right now has everyone standing on the perimeter waiting to launch up jumpshots... there is zero movement without the ball outside of the P&R on every single damn possession... i sincerely hope MDA's system next year isn't a repeat of this pathetic mess i've been witness to this year.

C'mon, cut some slack. It's not like he has Steve Nash playing for him. It's amazing how good a hall of fame point guard can make you're offense look. Still the same, T-Mac needs to shut his pie hole. He should at least try and prove that Houston overreacted when they banished him from the bench.

If anything this fool proved WHY Houston banished him. He's a loudmouth. Always has been. He needed the ball more? TO do what? Brick more shots? Gimme a break this guy is DONE. And even when he was healthy he was a fool. Look at his Magic career. Look at how he forced his way out of Toronto. He's a joke and always has been. One of my most hated players ever. If not THE most hated player.

If I were in charge and I heard those comments I'd pull an Isiah and have that clown escorted from the building 30 minutes before game time. Cut ties with this bitch. Nobody needs him. Let him go suck as an LLE player on the Spurs or Celtics next year.

The game stops when he comes in. We got destroyed early last night because of him and Duhon. Get rid of the bums. We got 4 bums left on this roster. Only one is under contract for next year. Get rid of the three. Harringbum, Dubum, TBum. Dump 'em.

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4/10/2010  9:23 AM
Sad. I had high hopes for Tracy McGrady. I wasn't expecting him to be T-Mac but I thought he would be a solid veteran player. But he's clearly done. And his attitude stinks. Bill Walker and JR Giddens have shown more promise anyway.
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4/10/2010  11:12 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
TMS wrote:i think he's pretty dead on with his comments... the system this team is playing right now has everyone standing on the perimeter waiting to launch up jumpshots... there is zero movement without the ball outside of the P&R on every single damn possession... i sincerely hope MDA's system next year isn't a repeat of this pathetic mess i've been witness to this year.

C'mon, cut some slack. It's not like he has Steve Nash playing for him. It's amazing how good a hall of fame point guard can make you're offense look. Still the same, T-Mac needs to shut his pie hole. He should at least try and prove that Houston overreacted when they banished him from the bench.

don't get me wrong i am no fan of Tracy McGrady trust me... i think he should shut up & stop making up excuses for his poor play, but his comments ring true to me... the system he's playing in has been a joke this season... every single play there's 2 guys running a P&R & 3 other guys standing around on the perimeter twiddling their thumbs... fine, people wanna say u need the right players with the right basketball IQ to run MDA's system to its fullest potential, but i thought alot of people including MDA thought T-Mac's basketball IQ was off the charts? why then, can't he be entrusted to grasp more of this system than to just stand around waiting for a kickout to launch up a contested 3? why are so many of our players averaging career lows or near to career lows in FG% this season? i think the only player we have whose FG% improved this season was Wilson Chandler off the top of my head... there are some obvious flaws to the "system" that MDA's been running this season that just can't be swept under the rug regardless of who is making the comments.

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4/10/2010  11:44 AM
Mike tried his ssol with this roster. Abandoned it long ago when he realized the players were too slow, too stupid, and unwilling to share the ball.

Now he gets trashed for dumbing the game down and slowing it down so these players could actually play basketball?

Come'on. Can't win either way I guess. Yet we're still here blaming the coach as if this roster would have done any better under any other coach. It wouldn't have.


And T-Shit has no ground to stand on. Nothing he says is worthwhile. People that dislike Mike will side with any negative comments like this no matter how pathetic they are.

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4/10/2010  11:56 AM
& people that like Mike will bash any negative comments like this no matter how pathetic of a coach he's been since he's been here.
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4/10/2010  12:17 PM
Not true. I have criticized him many a time. This isn't a black and white scenario. But I am behind my coach before I am behind some whiny little turd like TMac. This is something he has done time and again on three other teams.

As to Mike....

Mike's job wasn't to get this band of idiots to the playoffs. Giving TCrap the ball all game long wasn't changing anything. In fact it has hindered the development of our players.

Mike's job was to become an established coach during a rebuild so when we add new players this summer they are coming into an established setup and not the other way around.

Mike's job is to coach the 2010/2011 and 2011/2012 Knicks to victory.

Nothing more.

So I don't see any reason to side with TMac who is a known loudmouth anyway. He's burned his bridges in four cities now. That's no coincidence.

But then again you're a fan of Crawford, Zach, Nate, and Jordan Hill, so I don't expect you to side with the Knicks on anything because we have traded away all the guys you liked over the past two years. Which I understand. I disagree but I understand. To each their own. As usual I disagree with you.

And, as usual, nothing personal. We just disagree. It is what it is.

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4/10/2010  12:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/10/2010  12:24 PM
this has nothing to do with me being behind T-Mac over Mike D'Antoni... it's the comments that i agree with... the system he's had this team running the past 2 years has been a joke.

But then again you're a fan of Crawford, Zach, Nate, and Jordan Hill, so I don't expect you to side with the Knicks on anything because we have traded away all the guys you liked over the past two years. Which I understand. I disagree but I understand. To each their own. As usual I disagree with you.

again, more lies coming out of your fat mouth... yes, i liked Jamal but supported the trade to unload his contract... i was the biggest OPPONENT of acquiring Zach from the start & wanted him gone, but as usual u resort to lying to make some inane point... i maintained from the very beginning that Nate & MDA would never work out & that Nate would have to go, but again, who cares about silly things like the truth when you have some idiotic point to make?

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4/10/2010  12:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/10/2010  12:29 PM

this has nothing to do with me being behind T-Mac over Mike D'Antoni... it's the comments that i agree with... the system he's had this team running the past 2 years has been a joke.

It has been. Yes. You're right.

But the roster is a joke as well.

No system would turn this losing team into a winning one.

And the roster wasn't assembled to win. It was assembled to dump Isiah's mistakes.

Nothing more. So I don't understand having expectations...and having them dashed...to the point of fingering the coach for messing up something that was never meant to be any good in the first place.

I think some fans, maybe yourself included, were either still caught up in the Isiah "Just one more trade" scenario and though Walsh was doing the same thing - as if Harrington, Duhon, Hughes were brought in to put us over the hump or something. I think some fans fell for Walsh/Mike PR of "we're going to compete". They had to say it. It was their job. You can bet and know they never meant it and only said it to keep the PR positive for ticket buyers. Nothing more.

Did you ever read between the lines? Not sure you did.

Did I like watching this team suck the past two years? No. But I expected it and I was fine with it because I knew the plan that was being executed.

Now it's done. It's alllll done.

Now let us see what they build and let us see how Mike coaches a team that is built with the intent on WINNING...and not built to tear down a financial nightmare.

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4/10/2010  12:28 PM
just for future reference, if ur going to keep lying about my opinions don't bother engaging me in these discussions
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4/10/2010  12:29 PM
TMS wrote:

But then again you're a fan of Crawford, Zach, Nate, and Jordan Hill, so I don't expect you to side with the Knicks on anything because we have traded away all the guys you liked over the past two years. Which I understand. I disagree but I understand. To each their own. As usual I disagree with you.

again, more lies coming out of your fat mouth... yes, i liked Jamal but supported the trade to unload his contract... i was the biggest OPPONENT of acquiring Zach from the start & wanted him gone, but as usual u resort to lying to make some inane point... i maintained from the very beginning that Nate & MDA would never work out & that Nate would have to go, but again, who cares about silly things like the truth when you have some idiotic point to make?

What lies? You went nuts over the Jamal and Zach trades. Yes you did. Saying we were 6-3 and we were going to the playoffs and Walsh screwed us all. You've gone nuts over the Hill trade three times a day every day. You went crazy over the Nate trade saying we took back trash for a great player and handed Boston the chip.

Lying? I don't think so. I think you forget what you've said in the past.

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4/10/2010  12:30 PM
TMS wrote:just for future reference, if ur going to keep lying about my opinions don't bother engaging me in these discussions

Just for future reference. Maybe you ought to write down your opinions so when someone questions you then you can go back and see you did indeed say what you've been confronted about.

If you don't want to talk ball with me then stop replying to my posts.

That's very simple.

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4/10/2010  12:41 PM
Cosmic wrote:
TMS wrote:

But then again you're a fan of Crawford, Zach, Nate, and Jordan Hill, so I don't expect you to side with the Knicks on anything because we have traded away all the guys you liked over the past two years. Which I understand. I disagree but I understand. To each their own. As usual I disagree with you.

again, more lies coming out of your fat mouth... yes, i liked Jamal but supported the trade to unload his contract... i was the biggest OPPONENT of acquiring Zach from the start & wanted him gone, but as usual u resort to lying to make some inane point... i maintained from the very beginning that Nate & MDA would never work out & that Nate would have to go, but again, who cares about silly things like the truth when you have some idiotic point to make?

What lies? You went nuts over the Jamal and Zach trades. Yes you did. Saying we were 6-3 and we were going to the playoffs and Walsh screwed us all. You've gone nuts over the Hill trade three times a day every day. You went crazy over the Nate trade saying we took back trash for a great player and handed Boston the chip.

Lying? I don't think so. I think you forget what you've said in the past.

stop the lies, you're making urself look like a jackass

here's just a couple of threads that pretty much sums up what i thought about the Zach Randolph trade... if u don't believe actual posts u can ask around anyone who was around when that trade went down & they'll tell u i was the most vocal OPPONENT of the Zach trade from the very beginning.

http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=22303
http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=22281&page=2

please show me 1 comment i ever made that i was upset that Jamal & Zach were traded... i bet you can't find one.

i'll be happy to post up the threads where i posted about Nate's blockhead idiotic shenanigans & stated him & MDA would never work out if you'd like... i'd also be happy to post the comments i made where i said after i saw the player Bill Walker was that i was completely satisfied w/what we got back in the Nate trade & couldn't have expected much more.

you are right in 1 point only, i have been very upset over how Jordan Hill was handled this season, i've made no secret about that... that doesn't excuse you lying to try & cover your ass... that's not cool.

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4/10/2010  12:44 PM
Cosmic wrote:
TMS wrote:just for future reference, if ur going to keep lying about my opinions don't bother engaging me in these discussions

Just for future reference. Maybe you ought to write down your opinions so when someone questions you then you can go back and see you did indeed say what you've been confronted about.

If you don't want to talk ball with me then stop replying to my posts.

That's very simple.

as shown above, perhaps you need to know whose comments you're referring to before accusing someone else of making them... i dunno if you're mistaking me for MS or someone else who may have made those comments (& i'm not even sure they did), but i was definitely not the one you're talking about... when you're ready to apologize, feel free.

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