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BRIGGS
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4/9/2010  2:44 PM
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No one would want me president. I would give Israel anything they needed militarily to blow that country back into the Stone ages. When they thought the bombing would stop I would shove 100's more down their throats and would not stop until I didn't hear a sound. Who wants war--I certainly don't. But if a country like Iran with dubious intentions will not bargain with the rest of the world--what other option do I have? Do I let Iran make 300 Atomic weapons? Anyone hear want to sign off on that? Guess what--they would use them on your mother brother and sons and daughters no matter creed color you happen to be. It's just a lesson from history that no one in power can ignore. I would give them an ultimatum--either come to a complete verifiable halt--or prepare to be neutralized in a very aggressive manner.

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4/9/2010  2:52 PM
you just earned sarah palin's vote.
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4/9/2010  3:00 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/9/2010  3:01 PM
whether Iran has 300 Atomic weapons or 3000, they'd be absolute fools to use any of them on us or any country we're allied with... they'd be signing their own death warrants by doing so... the only nation in the history of the world that's been arrogant & dumb enough to use atomic weapons on anyone has been the United States, but u don't see other nations bombing us with nukes... if anyone should be worried, it's our enemy nations because we have more atomic weapons than any other nation & we're the only ones who's ever used one against another.
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4/9/2010  3:07 PM
BRIGGS wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100409/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear


No one would want me president. I would give Israel anything they needed militarily to blow that country back into the Stone ages. When they thought the bombing would stop I would shove 100's more down their throats and would not stop until I didn't hear a sound. Who wants war--I certainly don't. But if a country like Iran with dubious intentions will not bargain with the rest of the world--what other option do I have? Do I let Iran make 300 Atomic weapons? Anyone hear want to sign off on that? Guess what--they would use them on your mother brother and sons and daughters no matter creed color you happen to be. It's just a lesson from history that no one in power can ignore. I would give them an ultimatum--either come to a complete verifiable halt--or prepare to be neutralized in a very aggressive manner.

Yes, help Israel some more. Then Israel can continue its path to take over Palestine and eventually Iran and other Middle Eastern nations with USA's support, which will only lead to more crazy "die for the 72 virgins" guys blowing themselves up on subways and smashing planes into high-rise buildings.

"Our attitude toward life determines life's attitude towards us." - Earl Nightingale
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4/9/2010  3:36 PM
Briggs wants to shove bombs down the throats of every living and breathing man woiman and child but hey.. "Who wants war" he claims.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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4/9/2010  3:46 PM
BRIGGS wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100409/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear


No one would want me president. I would give Israel anything they needed militarily to blow that country back into the Stone ages. When they thought the bombing would stop I would shove 100's more down their throats and would not stop until I didn't hear a sound. Who wants war--I certainly don't. But if a country like Iran with dubious intentions will not bargain with the rest of the world--what other option do I have? Do I let Iran make 300 Atomic weapons? Anyone hear want to sign off on that? Guess what--they would use them on your mother brother and sons and daughters no matter creed color you happen to be. It's just a lesson from history that no one in power can ignore. I would give them an ultimatum--either come to a complete verifiable halt--or prepare to be neutralized in a very aggressive manner.


I can't even....

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4/9/2010  3:48 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100409/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear


No one would want me president. I would give Israel anything they needed militarily to blow that country back into the Stone ages. When they thought the bombing would stop I would shove 100's more down their throats and would not stop until I didn't hear a sound. Who wants war--I certainly don't. But if a country like Iran with dubious intentions will not bargain with the rest of the world--what other option do I have? Do I let Iran make 300 Atomic weapons? Anyone hear want to sign off on that? Guess what--they would use them on your mother brother and sons and daughters no matter creed color you happen to be. It's just a lesson from history that no one in power can ignore. I would give them an ultimatum--either come to a complete verifiable halt--or prepare to be neutralized in a very aggressive manner.

Yes, help Israel some more. Then Israel can continue its path to take over Palestine and eventually Iran and other Middle Eastern nations with USA's support, which will only lead to more crazy "die for the 72 virgins" guys blowing themselves up on subways and smashing planes into high-rise buildings.

So you'd prefer to acquiesce in allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons for fear of retribution from guys wielding boxcutters and bags of fertilizer mixed with gasoline? For what purpose do you suppose Iran wants nuclear weapons?

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4/9/2010  3:51 PM
kam77 wrote:Briggs wants to shove bombs down the throats of every living and breathing man woiman and child but hey.. "Who wants war" he claims.

See Briggs thinks all Middle Eastern countries are the same Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, what's the difference he thinks they all live in caves and practices radical Islam, plotting the destruction of the Israel and the US. Anyone not living in the US, Western Europe, and Israel is backwards, uneducated, and savage. So when in that type of mind-set it's no big deal to advocate for the death and destruction of millions of people.

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4/9/2010  4:01 PM
kam77 wrote:Briggs wants to shove bombs down the throats of every living and breathing man woiman and child but hey.. "Who wants war" he claims.

God help Donnie Walsh if he doesn't draft Jimmer Fredette this summer

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4/9/2010  4:02 PM
bitty41 wrote:
kam77 wrote:Briggs wants to shove bombs down the throats of every living and breathing man woiman and child but hey.. "Who wants war" he claims.

See Briggs thinks all Middle Eastern countries are the same Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, what's the difference he thinks they all live in caves and practices radical Islam, plotting the destruction of the Israel and the US. Anyone not living in the US, Western Europe, and Israel is backwards, uneducated, and savage. So when in that type of mind-set it's no big deal to advocate for the death and destruction of millions of people.

the interesting thing about all this is that most of the citizens in iran do not favor their current govt. yet, we should just blow everyone up regardless because they live in the same country????????

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4/9/2010  4:03 PM
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Childs2Dudley wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100409/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear


No one would want me president. I would give Israel anything they needed militarily to blow that country back into the Stone ages. When they thought the bombing would stop I would shove 100's more down their throats and would not stop until I didn't hear a sound. Who wants war--I certainly don't. But if a country like Iran with dubious intentions will not bargain with the rest of the world--what other option do I have? Do I let Iran make 300 Atomic weapons? Anyone hear want to sign off on that? Guess what--they would use them on your mother brother and sons and daughters no matter creed color you happen to be. It's just a lesson from history that no one in power can ignore. I would give them an ultimatum--either come to a complete verifiable halt--or prepare to be neutralized in a very aggressive manner.

Yes, help Israel some more. Then Israel can continue its path to take over Palestine and eventually Iran and other Middle Eastern nations with USA's support, which will only lead to more crazy "die for the 72 virgins" guys blowing themselves up on subways and smashing planes into high-rise buildings.

So you'd prefer to acquiesce in allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons for fear of retribution from guys wielding boxcutters and bags of fertilizer mixed with gasoline? For what purpose do you suppose Iran wants nuclear weapons?

Iran wants nuclear weapons for the same reasons any other nuclear weapon possessing nation wanted nuclear weapons... for international leverage & legitimacy... why did Great Britain & France want nuclear weapons? so they could bomb the fug out of Germany?

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4/9/2010  4:17 PM
EwingsGlass wrote: For what purpose do you suppose Iran wants nuclear weapons?

What purpose do YOU suppose Iran wants nuclear weapons?

Like any country, Iran should be able to solve their energy requirements with Nuclear power. Why not? They know their oil+gas reserves and how much longer until they're tapped out. Should Iran not prepare for the day their oil wells run dry?

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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4/9/2010  4:24 PM
kam77 wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote: For what purpose do you suppose Iran wants nuclear weapons?

What purpose do YOU suppose Iran wants nuclear weapons?

Like any country, Iran should be able to solve their energy requirements with Nuclear power. Why not? They know their oil+gas reserves and how much longer until they're tapped out. Should Iran not prepare for the day their oil wells run dry?

i agree with you about a country's right to preserve their energy requirements, but Ahmadinejad is not doing a good job of playing nice in the sandbox with the rest of the world. he's thrreatened to blow-up israel and continues to poke jabs at the US in various regards. if he went the diplomatic route, he could have probably secured a few well needed allies to help in his energy reserve cause. plus the fact that he is authorizing killing his own citizens in the streets when they protest.

all in all, does not make for people wanting to befriend him. too bad too, because its clear his views are not the views of the majorityu populus of iran.

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4/9/2010  4:27 PM
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bitty41 wrote:
kam77 wrote:Briggs wants to shove bombs down the throats of every living and breathing man woiman and child but hey.. "Who wants war" he claims.

See Briggs thinks all Middle Eastern countries are the same Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, what's the difference he thinks they all live in caves and practices radical Islam, plotting the destruction of the Israel and the US. Anyone not living in the US, Western Europe, and Israel is backwards, uneducated, and savage. So when in that type of mind-set it's no big deal to advocate for the death and destruction of millions of people.

the interesting thing about all this is that most of the citizens in iran do not favor their current govt. yet, we should just blow everyone up regardless because they live in the same country????????

Exactly! It's like holding all Americans accountable for George Bush's action as President or saying that the US should be bombed because Obama continues to send troops to Afghanistan. Some of us live in a world where it's "do as I say and not do as I do"

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4/9/2010  5:02 PM
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bitty41 wrote:
kam77 wrote:Briggs wants to shove bombs down the throats of every living and breathing man woiman and child but hey.. "Who wants war" he claims.

See Briggs thinks all Middle Eastern countries are the same Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, what's the difference he thinks they all live in caves and practices radical Islam, plotting the destruction of the Israel and the US. Anyone not living in the US, Western Europe, and Israel is backwards, uneducated, and savage. So when in that type of mind-set it's no big deal to advocate for the death and destruction of millions of people.

the interesting thing about all this is that most of the citizens in iran do not favor their current govt. yet, we should just blow everyone up regardless because they live in the same country????????

Exactly! It's like holding all Americans accountable for George Bush's action as President or saying that the US should be bombed because Obama continues to send troops to Afghanistan. Some of us live in a world where it's "do as I say and not do as I do"


i agree with you about a country's right to preserve their energy requirements, but Ahmadinejad is not doing a good job of playing nice in the sandbox with the rest of the world. he's thrreatened to blow-up israel and continues to poke jabs at the US in various regards. if he went the diplomatic route, he could have probably secured a few well needed allies to help in his energy reserve cause. plus the fact that he is authorizing killing his own citizens in the streets when they protest.
all in all, does not make for people wanting to befriend him. too bad too, because its clear his views are not the views of the majorityu populus of iran.

The President is not even the one that controls these decisions regarding the use of nuclear weapons the Supreme Leader of Iran is the one that dictates military policy in Iran. Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, issued a fatwa some time ago against nuclear weapons and he said: "We fundamentally reject nuclear weapons."

The International Atomic Energy Agency which inspected Iran's facilities in 2009 and their then chief said this about Iran's capabilities: there was "no credible evidence" about an Iranian weapons attempt. He said: "I do not think based on what we see that Iran has an ongoing nuclear weapons programme."

Our media outlets have been reporting on a slant about Iran of them being the next Boogie Monster in the Middle East and I hope if nothing else we've learned from the follies in Afghanistan and Iraq that we should develop concrete credible information before taking any action and that diplomacy should always be the first option. Going to war or what Briggs foolishly proposes would lead to WW3.

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4/9/2010  5:20 PM
kam77 wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote: For what purpose do you suppose Iran wants nuclear weapons?

What purpose do YOU suppose Iran wants nuclear weapons?

Like any country, Iran should be able to solve their energy requirements with Nuclear power. Why not? They know their oil+gas reserves and how much longer until they're tapped out. Should Iran not prepare for the day their oil wells run dry?

I think there is a difference between reactor grade fissile material and weapons grade fissile material. I don't have a problem with reactor grade material. I have a problem with weapons grade. Because of the difference, the world community has subjected itself to non-proliferation and inspection to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons. Iran is not part of that non-proliferation treaty.

I think that Ahmanadejad and his predecessors have been quite open about their foreign policy and their beliefs on Israel. He has clearly stated his desire to wipe Israel off the map.

Furthermore, a nation with their track record does not gain "legitimacy" in foreign affairs with a nuclear weapon. They get the right to blackmail the rest of the world. I'd prefer to have discussions with them before they get weapons grade material, rather than after. And while not the most ideal scenario, I might consider the use of force to stop them.

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4/9/2010  5:37 PM
how does someone living in the only country to have ever actually used a nuclear weapon against another have the right to judge the ulterior motives behind another nation developing nuclear arms? i'm having a hard time reconciling that notion. don't u think the US gains political leverage over other nations by having nuclear arms? do u think a country like North Korea would be taken seriously if not for their nuclear capability? Iran is seeking to gain the same kind of political leverage... they're not stupid enough to nuke another nation using the weapons they develop, otherwise they'd be signing their own death warrants... no one is stupid enough to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike on anyone in this day & age, not even the United States... there's way too much at stake now & we're no longer the only big kid on the block that has nuclear capability.
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4/9/2010  9:28 PM
Agree 100% with TMS
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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4/9/2010  9:43 PM
TMS wrote:how does someone living in the only country to have ever actually used a nuclear weapon against another have the right to judge the ulterior motives behind another nation developing nuclear arms? i'm having a hard time reconciling that notion. don't u think the US gains political leverage over other nations by having nuclear arms? do u think a country like North Korea would be taken seriously if not for their nuclear capability? Iran is seeking to gain the same kind of political leverage... they're not stupid enough to nuke another nation using the weapons they develop, otherwise they'd be signing their own death warrants... no one is stupid enough to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike on anyone in this day & age, not even the United States... there's way too much at stake now & we're no longer the only big kid on the block that has nuclear capability.

well, it was a domino effect with us using such a weapon that, tho horrific, was necessary to end the war. at the time, japan was not going to give up even if germany and italy pulled out because their motives were different from the two. we warned them we had a weapon and to give up which they didnt. fdr had to make good of his promise or we would have been at a vulnerable position with reported japanese submarines off of the coast of california. however, the collateral damage of hiroshima that affects that city today, almost 70 years later, is disheartening to say the least. however, you are right. the reason why countries accumulate these weapons is for legitimacy and to be considered a power. no one will be stupid enough to launch one because then they are enemies of the world. world war 3 would start and it wont be pretty.

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4/10/2010  12:38 AM
bitty41 wrote:
kam77 wrote:Briggs wants to shove bombs down the throats of every living and breathing man woiman and child but hey.. "Who wants war" he claims.

See Briggs thinks all Middle Eastern countries are the same Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, what's the difference he thinks they all live in caves and practices radical Islam, plotting the destruction of the Israel and the US. Anyone not living in the US, Western Europe, and Israel is backwards, uneducated, and savage. So when in that type of mind-set it's no big deal to advocate for the death and destruction of millions of people.


Bitty---would you take even a 5% chance that Iran would make a nuclear bomb that was capable of being entrenched in a mobile device and delivered to US soil to be detonated? And if that takes out your entire family--was is your take on that? I'm sure many Germans felt hopeless and disgusted when their government set out to wipe anyone who did not have blonde hair and blue eyes off the Earth. What did they do when their military killed 6mm Jews?

I am talking direct targeting of all governmental and military targets within Iran. I would wipe out their government and military. I would use Israel to launch a powerful conventional attack on such targets. If there was a counter-attack against Isreal--I would then order a small strategic nuclear attack against the same targets until there was surrender. It worked in WW2 and it will work now.
Hopefully a massive conventional strike would be sufficient but I would not stop and nothing is off the table. There is no second chance--it's an all or nothing strike. Would there be collateral damage--yes. Would the Iranian people who are dissatisfied with current government be able to change it for the better once order was again established--yes. Did a nuclear attack destroy Japan --no. It actually propelled them into a great modern society ruled by democracy. It's pretty simple--we have to wipe them out and it's going to happen.

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