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4/5/2010  3:11 PM
for argument's sake, let's say Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Dirk & Amare are not coming here this summer & the cap will be set at $53M... what is the best starphuch roster you can come up with that is reasonably realistic?

C - Marcus Camby $7M
PF - David Lee $10M
SF - Danilo Gallinari $3.3M
SG - Manu Ginobili $9M
PG - Baron Davis $13M (Curry trade)
6 - Wilson Chandler $2.1M
7 - Drew Gooden $4.35M
8 - Toney Douglas $1M
9 - Bill Walker $850K
10 - JR Giddens $1.1M
11 - 2nd round pick $650K
12 - 2nd round pick $650K

total payroll = $53M

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4/5/2010  3:50 PM
^ Why is Ginobili taking a paycut to come to a different team, city to play with a lesser team than he has today? That's not realistic, don't you think?
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4/5/2010  4:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/5/2010  4:17 PM
martin wrote:^ Why is Ginobili taking a paycut to come to a different team, city to play with a lesser team than he has today? That's not realistic, don't you think?

do u think the Spurs will offer him more than a contract starting out at $9M in the first year? i think it's debateable at the very least, especially at his age... i think a 3 year deal starting at around $9M is about right for a player of his level personally... SA now has Richard Jefferson under contract for next season & they are an aging franchise... they might consider that amount of money prohibitive to hold onto Manu G this summer, at least that is the hope.

but if u can't sign Manu at $9M i would target Rudy Gay at the max for his salary tier & offer up Wilson & Curry in a sign & trade (instead of targetting Baron) & see if MEM would be amenable to that type of offer rather than lose him for nothing (if they're not willing to match the offer obviously)

after that u would have enough cap left over to sign guys like Luis Scola (rather than Drew Gooden) & enough still to sign a defensive specialist on a reasonable deal, perhaps someone like Raja Bell along with a perfect backup PG like Kyle Lowry

this would be an acceptable plan C or D option for me (assuming we'd already failed in our attempts to land the big names)... obviously not good enough to justify the all in trade but if we don't land the big names u gotta make the best of a bad situation, no?:

C - Marcus Camby $7M
PF - David Lee $10M
SF - Danilo Gallinari $3.3M
SG - Rudy Gay $12M (sign & trade for Wilson & Curry's expiring)
PG - Toney Douglas $1M
6 - Luis Scola $8.5M
7 - Kyle Lowry $5.6M
8 - Raja Bell $3M
9 - Bill Walker $850K
10 - 2nd round pick $650K
11 - 2nd round pick $650K
12 - minimum salary $450K

total payroll = $53M

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4/5/2010  4:17 PM
let's say Manu won't come... what about Ray Allen + TMac
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4/5/2010  4:21 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:let's say Manu won't come... what about Ray Allen + TMac

i would really like to target as many 2 way players as possible... Ray & T-Mac play no defense & i don't see T-Mac signing for a low money deal unless we were getting 2 bignames to come here with him this summer.

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4/5/2010  4:26 PM
TMS wrote:
martin wrote:^ Why is Ginobili taking a paycut to come to a different team, city to play with a lesser team than he has today? That's not realistic, don't you think?

do u think the Spurs will offer him more than a contract starting out at $9M in the first year? i think it's debateable at the very least, especially at his age... i think a 3 year deal starting at around $9M is about right for a player of his level personally... SA now has Richard Jefferson under contract for next season & they are an aging franchise... they might consider that amount of money prohibitive to hold onto Manu G this summer, at least that is the hope.

SA doesn't offer Manu a 3 year contract starting at $9M? If they don't it's cause they think he will break down. But I do think they will.

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4/5/2010  4:29 PM
TMS wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:let's say Manu won't come... what about Ray Allen + TMac

i would really like to target as many 2 way players as possible... Ray & T-Mac play no defense & i don't see T-Mac signing for a low money deal unless we were getting 2 bignames to come here with him this summer.

I actually agree, just trying to come up with alternate starphuching strategies

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4/5/2010  4:30 PM
martin wrote:
TMS wrote:
martin wrote:^ Why is Ginobili taking a paycut to come to a different team, city to play with a lesser team than he has today? That's not realistic, don't you think?

do u think the Spurs will offer him more than a contract starting out at $9M in the first year? i think it's debateable at the very least, especially at his age... i think a 3 year deal starting at around $9M is about right for a player of his level personally... SA now has Richard Jefferson under contract for next season & they are an aging franchise... they might consider that amount of money prohibitive to hold onto Manu G this summer, at least that is the hope.

SA doesn't offer Manu a 3 year contract starting at $9M? If they don't it's cause they think he will break down. But I do think they will.

well like i just presented to u Manu isn't the make it or break it part of the puzzle... feel free to present your best roster if we miss out on the bignames & let's see what u can come up with.

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4/5/2010  4:32 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
TMS wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:let's say Manu won't come... what about Ray Allen + TMac

i would really like to target as many 2 way players as possible... Ray & T-Mac play no defense & i don't see T-Mac signing for a low money deal unless we were getting 2 bignames to come here with him this summer.

I actually agree, just trying to come up with alternate starphuching strategies

i was actually considering Ray Allen as part of a starphuch strategy, but just couldn't accept another weak ass defensive starting 5 for another season... my stomach won't be able to handle much more of what we've been watching.

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