Im not interested in Biedrens because we all know D'Antoni wont play him.

Scenario 1:
Eddy Curry, Chandler, and Douglas/Walker
for
Maggette, Turiaf, and Curry

Golden State would be dumping alot future salary on us but at least we'd get an upgrade at both guard positions with this trade. Curry would likely entertain a buyout as well so Golden State could save a few more dollars.

Turiaf(C)
Lee(PF)
Gallo(SF )
**Joe Johnson**
S. Curry

Bench:
Maggette

AnubisADL wrote:I recall reading that New Orleans wants to dump Peja with Collison. I want no parts of Peja.

The Arenas angle is nice especially if we could just trade Curry to get him.

why would you want arenas???

SupremeCommander wrote:no ****ing way

I wouldn't be opposed to offering Curry for Arenas on a take it or leave it basis. That is a marginal increase in salary for a 20 PPG player. Spreewell worked out it all right

havent we seen enough of no defense playing chuckers? arenas hasnt played a full season in a long time, coming off injuries, moronic off court incidents... spree wasnt hurt multiple seasons in a row before he arrived, wasnt nearly maxed out, and i dont think a total nut job like arenas. we need a guy poopin in gallos shoes?

sidsanders wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:no ****ing way

I wouldn't be opposed to offering Curry for Arenas on a take it or leave it basis. That is a marginal increase in salary for a 20 PPG player. Spreewell worked out it all right

havent we seen enough of no defense playing chuckers? arenas hasnt played a full season in a long time, coming off injuries, moronic off court incidents... spree wasnt hurt multiple seasons in a row before he arrived, wasnt nearly maxed out, and i dont think a total nut job like arenas. we need a guy poopin in gallos shoes?

SupremeCommander wrote:I wouldn't be opposed to offering Curry for Arenas on a take it or leave it basis.

Sprewell may have been healthy, but wasn't a perennial All Star.

I certainly wouldn't build a team around Arenas but wouldn't be opposed to acquiring him as a third option this offseason

sidsanders wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:I recall reading that New Orleans wants to dump Peja with Collison. I want no parts of Peja.

The Arenas angle is nice especially if we could just trade Curry to get him.

why would you want arenas???

Arenas' contract has 4 years remaining. If we sign Joe Johnson he will get at least 5 years.

Im looking at it strictly from a contract perspective. If Arenas breaks down we are out of his contract 1 year sooner. Plus he is big enough to play SG for us if need be.

We wont have a high lottery pick for the next 2 years anyway. I could careless whether D'ivatoni gets along with Arenas or not because D'ivatoni might not last another full season. Im looking at our future and the fact we dont have a 2012 pick.

AnubisADL wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:You accept that young players have bad games once in awhile. Im a big supporter of keeping what we have together for the most part and adding not subtracting parts. If we can add a star like LBJ a quality 6th man some cheap frontcourt help--like adding an Ian Mahinmi to the SL team--adding a 7 footer like Fasenko on the very cheap--something along those lines and possibly bring in a Fredette from the draft--a guy who can back up TD--add quality youthful pieces mixed in with the right amount of veterans. I wouldve like to have Curry as well but being forced to take half of s shtty team back isnt worth it.

Im still somewhat surprised that we couldn't have made a deal with Minnesota to flip 6 and 8. I don't see GS taking Flynn--they would've taken Jennings--in fact I think their GM said it of Curry was gone. 3mm $ to flip the pick and getting the same player?

Im not down on Douglas or Chandler. I just realize they arent going to take us anywhere and I dont really want to pay Chandler next summer. I just want the Knicks to have cap flexibility ASAP after 2012. Getting guys to make us decent for the next 2 years is all I really care about. In 2 years we have to re-up Gallo anyway.

When the trade went down I figured Minny was trying to draft Evans and Curry for their backcourt. Unfortunately for them Evans got picked up early. So they went in a different direction.

I'm not willing to "re-up" Gallo, Chandler, Douglas or anybody on this roster at this point until they show me winning basketball for a WHOLE season. Not spurts. So the roster is suspect until then. No need to try and single out guys on this roster. It is a collective fail.

Pharzeone wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:You accept that young players have bad games once in awhile. Im a big supporter of keeping what we have together for the most part and adding not subtracting parts. If we can add a star like LBJ a quality 6th man some cheap frontcourt help--like adding an Ian Mahinmi to the SL team--adding a 7 footer like Fasenko on the very cheap--something along those lines and possibly bring in a Fredette from the draft--a guy who can back up TD--add quality youthful pieces mixed in with the right amount of veterans. I wouldve like to have Curry as well but being forced to take half of s shtty team back isnt worth it.

Im still somewhat surprised that we couldn't have made a deal with Minnesota to flip 6 and 8. I don't see GS taking Flynn--they would've taken Jennings--in fact I think their GM said it of Curry was gone. 3mm $ to flip the pick and getting the same player?

Im not down on Douglas or Chandler. I just realize they arent going to take us anywhere and I dont really want to pay Chandler next summer. I just want the Knicks to have cap flexibility ASAP after 2012. Getting guys to make us decent for the next 2 years is all I really care about. In 2 years we have to re-up Gallo anyway.

When the trade went down I figured Minny was trying to draft Evans and Curry for their backcourt. Unfortunately for them Evans got picked up early. So they went in a different direction.

I'm not willing to "re-up" Gallo, Chandler, Douglas or anybody on this roster at this point until they show me winning basketball for a WHOLE season. Not spurts. So the roster is suspect until then. No need to try and single out guys on this roster. It is a collective fail.

Are you from some communist country? They have this collective responsibility when nobody is personally accountable.

knicks1248 wrote:
I agree, it's amazing how excited enthusedsome of you get after one of our (young) players has a good week or 2.

There- I fixed it and added a word for you so that it more accurately explains how, and why, some feel the way they do about how guys like Douglas or Gallo are recently performing.

AnubisADL wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:I recall reading that New Orleans wants to dump Peja with Collison. I want no parts of Peja.

The Arenas angle is nice especially if we could just trade Curry to get him.

why would you want arenas???

Arenas' contract has 4 years remaining. If we sign Joe Johnson he will get at least 5 years.

Im looking at it strictly from a contract perspective. If Arenas breaks down we are out of his contract 1 year sooner. Plus he is big enough to play SG for us if need be.

We wont have a high lottery pick for the next 2 years anyway. I could careless whether D'ivatoni gets along with Arenas or not because D'ivatoni might not last another full season. Im looking at our future and the fact we dont have a 2012 pick.

he is a sg who plays pg. jj at 5 yrs is bad, arenas at any is just less bad? why would he be worth the risk of injury/nuttyness/no defense/chucker.

TMS wrote:Arenas will be making $22 freakin million bucks by the time his contract expires in 2014! are u serious u would consider that guy w/his idiotic antics, immaturity, bad shot selection & complete lack of defense?

maybe a crap-shoe will help the players that remain for 2010?