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BRIGGS
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3/25/2010  1:30 PM
If we get LBJ--we keep Lee at C and bring in another athletic big and a classic 7 footer for the bench. If we get Bosh or Amare move Lee to point PF.

I would also say keep Ah Harrington for 6th man and if we have the money to get him Anthony Morrow who has been the best 3 point shooting 2G in the NBA for two years running. Our consistency from 3 is also a point of emphasis.

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3/25/2010  1:33 PM
Hope you're planning to add about $20mil to the cap next year. Otherwise, how do you propose we afford all of these players?
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3/25/2010  1:39 PM
I'm beginning to think Amare is the ideal player for this team. I really, really like what a Lee/Amare combination would bring to the table. And even though Bosh or Amare is an upgrade from Lee, he's pretty much been here throughout the Isiah Thomas nightmare... it would be nice to hold onto something good from that era.

I also would like to hold onto TMac. I know he can't carry a team but 25 MPG off the bench? Against the Nuggets he looked great for a stretch or too.

Douglas
Chandler
Gallo
Lee
Amare

Bench: TMac/Giddens/Walker

Then add a key piece or two in 2011

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3/25/2010  1:40 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:I'm beginning to think Amare is the ideal player for this team. I really, really like what a Lee/Amare combination would bring to the table. And even though Bosh or Amare is an upgrade from Lee, he's pretty much been here throughout the Isiah Thomas nightmare... it would be nice to hold onto something good from that era.

I also would like to hold onto TMac. I know he can't carry a team but 25 MPG off the bench? Against the Nuggets he looked great for a stretch or too.

Douglas
Chandler
Gallo
Lee
Amare

Bench: TMac/Giddens/Walker

Then add a key piece or two in 2011

while you may be right, if whatever line-up you throw out there doesnt have LBJ in it, ny fans will revolt this summer. i dont think amare and a resigned lee makes the knicks as good as they need to be next year w all the cap space they have right now.
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3/25/2010  1:46 PM
Moonangie wrote:Hope you're planning to add about $20mil to the cap next year. Otherwise, how do you propose we afford all of these players?

17 LBJ
9 D Lee 6 years 63mm
3.5 Harrington 5 years 20mm$
3.5 Morrow 5 years 22.5mm
1.5 Tmac
Pick
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3/25/2010  2:25 PM
Harrigton for $4 million a year?

Will never Happen..... And Lee at 11 million a year is just plain CRAZY!!

We need to be smart...... Bron & Wade can get Max money

Anyone else needs to take slightly less.....

Amare or Bosh at 14 mil a year wont be Bad!!

Joe Johnson too

McGrady on the cheap would be nice..... I think he is gonna shock people
next season......

Lee and Al need to go to Jersey together

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3/25/2010  2:35 PM
jimimou wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I'm beginning to think Amare is the ideal player for this team. I really, really like what a Lee/Amare combination would bring to the table. And even though Bosh or Amare is an upgrade from Lee, he's pretty much been here throughout the Isiah Thomas nightmare... it would be nice to hold onto something good from that era.

I also would like to hold onto TMac. I know he can't carry a team but 25 MPG off the bench? Against the Nuggets he looked great for a stretch or too.

Douglas
Chandler
Gallo
Lee
Amare

Bench: TMac/Giddens/Walker

Then add a key piece or two in 2011

while you may be right, if whatever line-up you throw out there doesnt have LBJ in it, ny fans will revolt this summer. i dont think amare and a resigned lee makes the knicks as good as they need to be next year w all the cap space they have right now.

all they'll do is bitch louder. no one went anywhere and there's been more wretched things to happen to this franchise than only acquiring Amare

I'm willing to be patient here. The team above certainly isn't a contender but it could potentially land in the ECF if everything goes right. Add one more piece to that...

you get LBJ then that's awesome, but then Donnie has to pick and choose and reshuffle the roster

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3/25/2010  2:37 PM
umynot wrote:Harrigton for $4 million a year?

Will never Happen..... And Lee at 11 million a year is just plain CRAZY!!

We need to be smart...... Bron & Wade can get Max money

Anyone else needs to take slightly less.....

Amare or Bosh at 14 mil a year wont be Bad!!

Joe Johnson too

McGrady on the cheap would be nice..... I think he is gonna shock people
next season......

Lee and Al need to go to Jersey together

D Lee at 63mm would be at a discount to market. That's roughly 13mm a year X5 --but we can use the 6th year option and pay him the same or very close to it to stay.

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3/25/2010  2:45 PM
Al will get at least a MLE offer this summer, u can bet on it... dude is leading all 6th men in scoring this season... forget about getting him at 5 years $20M.
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3/25/2010  4:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/25/2010  4:22 PM
BRIGGS wrote:If we get LBJ--we keep Lee at C and bring in another athletic big and a classic 7 footer for the bench. If we get Bosh or Amare move Lee to point PF.

I would also say keep Ah Harrington for 6th man and if we have the money to get him Anthony Morrow who has been the best 3 point shooting 2G in the NBA for two years running. Our consistency from 3 is also a point of emphasis.


briggs, I was thinking the same thing.. During the game on NBA TV after Mchale and webber got done clowing the knicks and started backtracking.. Mchale said he scouted gallo and feels he would be best used as a guy at the top of the key or on the elbow, running pick and rolls, and finding open players.. In other words, getting a lebron will just force gallo to the corner and the knicks will not maximize his skillset that way....

So getting an amare and having him with lee and gallo on the front line, does give you a good front line. get a big man off the bench and this team can win 42+ games.... I am not an al fan, but where in this league can you get that kind of scoring off the bench? if al can play with some kind of control...

not saying you don't get lebron beacause you want to maximize gallo's talent, but I am getting tired of the Lebron or bust talk... that can has been playing us fans since the day we started clearing cap room.. LOL

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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3/25/2010  4:24 PM
agree 100% on keeping Douglas, Lee, Chandler and Gallo together.

Supreme, I also agree on the Amare thought.

LBJ is the one guy I would sacrifice Lee for. If LBJ says he wants somone else and then you cater to that. Otherwise I am looking to sign:
Amare $17mm
Lee $9.5 (6 years 74mm is my best offer)
then you have $8 at the least to sign other guys.

I think we have enough offense. The key to this team playing well is defense on the perimeter and rebounding the ball. Our post defense wont be great w/ Lee and Amare, but thats balanced out by the 40/20/55% they will combine for every night. What we need to do is shut down the perimeter guys and I think people are seeing a different Lee when this team plays defense on the wing.

I like Walker and Giddens as prospects, and they are nice and cheap. I like the idea of trading up to get Brigg's guy Jimmer.

I would bring back Harrington to come off the bench for a MLE type deal 4 years $25mm and I would sign Raja Bell (if healthy) for 2 years and $7mm. He's older but still one of the best perimeter defenders in the league. I'm looking at him as tone setter in the backcourt with Douglas.

PG Douglas, Jimmer F
SG Raja Bell, Walker, Giddens
SF Gallo, Chandler
PF Lee, Harrington
C Amare
Thats my 10 man roster. Fill it our with some undrafted FA types.

My rotation would start Douglas, Raja, Gallo, Lee and Amare with Chandler and Harrington off the bench. Let the rookie fight with Walker and Giddens for that 8th spot in the rotation.

I see a team that really defends the wings and scores and rebounds at a very high rate up front.

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3/25/2010  4:26 PM
tkf wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If we get LBJ--we keep Lee at C and bring in another athletic big and a classic 7 footer for the bench. If we get Bosh or Amare move Lee to point PF.

I would also say keep Ah Harrington for 6th man and if we have the money to get him Anthony Morrow who has been the best 3 point shooting 2G in the NBA for two years running. Our consistency from 3 is also a point of emphasis.

not saying you don't get lebron beacause you want to maximize gallo's talent, but I am getting tired of the Lebron or bust talk... that can has been playing us fans since the day we started clearing cap room.. LOL

Wait, so are you really saying that you would re-consider getting Lebron on account of how it may affect Gallo's game?

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3/25/2010  4:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/25/2010  4:28 PM
I'm telling you, put Amare on one block down low and Lee on the other. Put Gallo in a triple threat position at the top of the key and you can run pick and rolls all day long to either side. It would be absolutely lethal.
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3/25/2010  4:35 PM
s3231 wrote:I'm telling you, put Amare on one block down low and Lee on the other. Put Gallo in a triple threat position at the top of the key and you can run pick and rolls all day long to either side. It would be absolutely lethal.

winning 44 games a year lethal?

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3/25/2010  4:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/25/2010  4:43 PM
sebstar wrote:
s3231 wrote:I'm telling you, put Amare on one block down low and Lee on the other. Put Gallo in a triple threat position at the top of the key and you can run pick and rolls all day long to either side. It would be absolutely lethal.

winning 44 games a year lethal?

You put the right role players around those 3 and Gallo continues to improve, then I don't see why you can't even win 50 games. Douglas would already be a very nice fit so adding another perimeter defender alone would do wonders.

Offensively, that is about as efficient as you can get by running everything through those 3.

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3/25/2010  4:44 PM
Gallo, Chandler and Douglas are staying together. I hope we can keep DLee, but that's a wait and see.
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3/25/2010  4:45 PM
wow, we got guys only willing to give up D Lee if we're getting Lebron... we got guys willing to trade away a #8 lottery selected rook & draft rights to 2 future 1st rounders to keep D Lee in NY... i never realized he was such a valuable player.
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3/25/2010  4:53 PM
BRIGGS wrote:If we get LBJ--we keep Lee at C and bring in another athletic big and a classic 7 footer for the bench. If we get Bosh or Amare move Lee to point PF.

I would also say keep Ah Harrington for 6th man and if we have the money to get him Anthony Morrow who has been the best 3 point shooting 2G in the NBA for two years running. Our consistency from 3 is also a point of emphasis.

All the above looks like they can be very good roll players...Together they don't seem to have the talent to make a Championship team...we have to look at the big picture and not fluctuate our opinions on a game to game basis...It's great and enjoyable watching the young kids mature drafted by this organization...Has to be one of the most enjoyable things if not the only thing about watching the Knicks these days...But you also have to understand their limitations in the context of winning in the NBA...
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3/25/2010  5:38 PM
Keeping Lee, Gallo, Chandler and Douglas together is a good idea. We do need a big with that group. I wouldn't mind signing Al for 2 or 3 years at the mle, but not more.
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3/25/2010  5:42 PM
let's keep this entire team together... who needs Bosh, Wade & Amare when we have a 30 win core on the cusp of winning a championship?
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