I'm dead even on weather we should really look to re-sign him, and i would hate see this guy putting those numbers up with some other team all the way to the finals. I think If we manage to sign LBJ, him a david lee would make an unbelievable tandem. With LBJ's leadership skills and work ethic, along with Dlee's work ethic and high character, we can be a very good team.

knicks1248 wrote:I watch most of the Rockets game and was completely thrown off guard when i heard breen say, thats david lee's 20th rebound to go along with his 27pts and 6 ast. I'm like "you got to be kidding me" when in the hell did he do that. You would think that having a game like that would result in a sure nuff win, but as usually it doesn't. It's amazing how his stats seem so empty, yet JJ had 3 blocks took 4 charges and had a couple steals and had the biggest impact of the game, essentially winning it for them.

I'm dead even on weather we should really look to re-sign him, and i would hate see this guy putting those numbers up with some other team all the way to the finals. I think If we manage to sign LBJ, him a david lee would make an unbelievable tandem. With LBJ's leadership skills and work ethic, along with Dlee's work ethic and high character, we can be a very good team.

d lee sucks

knicks1248 wrote:I watch most of the Rockets game and was completely thrown off guard when i heard breen say, thats david lee's 20th rebound to go along with his 27pts and 6 ast. I'm like "you got to be kidding me" when in the hell did he do that. You would think that having a game like that would result in a sure nuff win, but as usually it doesn't. It's amazing how his stats seem so empty, yet JJ had 3 blocks took 4 charges and had a couple steals and had the biggest impact of the game, essentially winning it for them.

I'm dead even on weather we should really look to re-sign him, and i would hate see this guy putting those numbers up with some other team all the way to the finals. I think If we manage to sign LBJ, him a david lee would make an unbelievable tandem. With LBJ's leadership skills and work ethic, along with Dlee's work ethic and high character, we can be a very good team.

knicks1248--the problem all year is that the Knicks did not play with a second big and had problems at the PG position while Gallo +Harrington were very inconsistent.

Now as we have had some consistency from Gallo and the PG position--we have stabilized. The way to turn the differential is to bring in a premium second big man. I also think we need a consistent 6th man with TD moving into the starting line up. We need a C a back up PG and Im more inclined to go young than old because of expense. If I need to improve my bench--I can do that before the deadline. I have an ending contract and a 1 in 2011. We would aheva good unit and we would need to see it in action for 40 games. If Tmac wants to stay and be part of the second unit--he would be in the 9 rotation.

A huge mistake is blaming problems on D lee--we had many other problems that caused the demise.

ON a better team his numbers will drop but his passing and rebounding will enhance the others.

He does get better every year. That shot is impressive now. Come out to get him and he'll go around you, double him up and he'll pass it.

With that said though, Lee had 6 offensive boards against the Rockets and almost all of them were HUGE for us. You can't tell me with a straight face that if Lee doesn't get those offensive boards, someone else definitely would have. He really had a terrific all-around game against the Rockets and I think his numbers were definitely justified for that particular game. Offensively, he hit several big jump shots for us that just made you shake your head and stare in awe at how lethal his jump shot has gotten. One particular shot stood out to me when McGrady ran the shot clock all the way down and just passed off to Lee with one second remaining. Lee just calmly sank a difficult jumper that was very well contested, the type of shot that you want your star player to make.

I mean, I still don't understand why people continue to bash on him. He is an impact player and the only guy we have that shows up every night. If we replace him with Bosh, I'll definitely be ok with that but outside of that idea, I think we definitely have to do whatever we can to bring him back. A lot of what he does goes unnoticed because people have come to expect his production.

Every year Knick fans bitch and moan about all the players we pass in the draft and all the players we should have. Then we pick a guy with the last pick in the first round as a nice bench/huslte type guy. In 5 years all the guy does through 4 coaches and plenty of other crap is work hard every year, become a better player every year and eventually become and ALL star. Now Knick fans are obsessing about paying him and would rather see him replaced by inferior players. Its idiotic. Knick fans dont deserve a guy like Lee.

Its an endless source of amusement for me when guys talk about whats wrong with this team how they start with David Lee. We have no PG, no playmakers and no size. So lets focus on the only legit frontcourt player we have who gets 20/12/55% every single night. Oh right... those are inflated #s. Yawn.

kam77 wrote:He is good enough to be a borderline all-star. nothing more. nothing less.

you can say that this year, but DLee has shown to improve on a weakness every summer.

3 years ago hardly anyone thought he could improve his outside shot....

tkf wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I watch most of the Rockets game and was completely thrown off guard when i heard breen say, thats david lee's 20th rebound to go along with his 27pts and 6 ast. I'm like "you got to be kidding me" when in the hell did he do that. You would think that having a game like that would result in a sure nuff win, but as usually it doesn't. It's amazing how his stats seem so empty, yet JJ had 3 blocks took 4 charges and had a couple steals and had the biggest impact of the game, essentially winning it for them.

I'm dead even on weather we should really look to re-sign him, and i would hate see this guy putting those numbers up with some other team all the way to the finals. I think If we manage to sign LBJ, him a david lee would make an unbelievable tandem. With LBJ's leadership skills and work ethic, along with Dlee's work ethic and high character, we can be a very good team.

knicks1248--the problem all year is that the Knicks did not play with a second big and had problems at the PG position while Gallo +Harrington were very inconsistent.

Now as we have had some consistency from Gallo and the PG position--we have stabilized. The way to turn the differential is to bring in a premium second big man. I also think we need a consistent 6th man with TD moving into the starting line up. We need a C a back up PG and Im more inclined to go young than old because of expense. If I need to improve my bench--I can do that before the deadline. I have an ending contract and a 1 in 2011. We would aheva good unit and we would need to see it in action for 40 games. If Tmac wants to stay and be part of the second unit--he would be in the 9 rotation.

A huge mistake is blaming problems on D lee--we had many other problems that caused the demise.

aND BRIGGS you bring up a good point.. lets say you keep gallo at SF, lee at PF and you want to get a Big this summer? who is available? becuase if all we come away with this summer is a center, fans are going to go nuts, but the thing is, we need a real center more than we need a bosh, amare or joe johnson...

The market does not have a C that will be available in 2010 that is young enough to spend big money on. I think you can retain Lee and ADD one of Bosh or Stoudemire --then add a fasenko and pick 40 can be a guy who is 6-11+

MDA wont use the big C much anyway but we have them. We can rotate Gallo at PF with lets say Bosh and Lee

TMS wrote:i have an idea for D Lee... instead of working on developing a 3 pt shot this summer, try working on playing some defense & blocking shots... he did a nice job yesterday checking Luis Scola, that's more of the type of play all of us would like to see... too bad playing defense is the exception rather than the norm w/him... we all know he's an elite rebounder & terrific finisher at the rim... not even All NBA level defense we're talking about here, just play some solid D & don't let guys waltz into the paint for easy buckets.

Agree 100%. No one's looking for all world defense outta this guy - just concentrate on giving more effort in this area, that's all we ask. He's really gotta think about putting much more stock into playing defense instead of thinking about the 3 pt. line and reminding reporters all the time that he's playing out of position. Concentrate on getting stops, however you gotta do it..Right now player around the league are all thinking, "No way David Lee is stoppin' me." And for the most part, they're correct to think so. That's gotta change. He's got the physical tools -- he's big enough (esp. if he ever gets around to playing the 4), quick enough and is a good enough leaper. Defense is where these games are won. Instead of telling us how you're gonna be a 3-pt. shooter next year, tell us how you went back and studied film on guys like Rich Mahorn, Dennis Rodman and plan on playing like they did -- learn how to pull the chair out on a guy in the post, become a little bit of a shot-blocker with that leaping ability of yours, etc...I mean if he didn't have enough physical ability to play D, nobody would say a word, but he does...He's gotta realize you win games in the 4th quarter playing D -- dude went for 26 & 20 yesterday and they still lost and at home...The Houston loss definitely isn't on him, he played fantastic -- it's just an overall concept he needs to embrace & put stock into...Very good player though -- if we can't get the big fish, he's gotta still be in the plans..

MS wrote:

He is now
-One of the best passing big men in the entire NBA
-One of the best rebounders in the league
-One of the best finishers/efficient bigs in the league
-Led the entire NBA in double doubles last year
-One of the better shooting fowards from the outside in this league

Just curious about the first item on this list (items 2-4 are obviously true, and item 5 seems plausible to me, without checking the figures). Is that item based on stats, or is it your overall impression of Lee's passing?

The reason I ask is because my overall impression (not based on stats) is that Lee often makes quite risky long cross court passes, that either end in turnovers, or just barely avoid being turnovers. Based on this (again, just my impression, not based on stats), I tend not to regard him as being that good a passer.