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DJMUSIC
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3/18/2010  9:28 PM
I know this aint basketball (yea i may not be too popular with this)
But when the devil are the Cheap Knicks gonna update their jerseys ?
you think u would ever see it again in your lifetime ?

The Knicks have most or more $$$ mooolah than almost entire nba
however last time cheap knicks slightly updated their jerseys was
95-96 season following knicks finals lost to Hakeem's Houston Rockets

However I think though we'd like team in hurry to get good and build something exciting
and fresh to compete why not a start with NYK Jerseys ?

Now dont get me wrong the current and traditional Knicks uniforms are fine, but lets be
honest their is NO link to 69-70 & 73 title Knick teams and the BKing and Ewings Knick
playoff teams. They will never ever be any link to those teams success until we win
the big one.

Every nba team included the hated Celtics and Lakers have some twist and Jersey Re-dos
but the darn Cheapo Knickerbockers. Lord Knows the Garden and Cable monguls charge
enough dough $$ and raised Ticket game prices and Knicks cable tv to have us see some
change in teams attitudes which constantly trying 24x7 to live in the past with them
Good /great Knicks regimes I mentioned.

New Jerseys are way overdue for this cheap ar_ _se franchise.
I felt like this 5 yrs ago or so when even Spike Lee Knick fan offered to do them over
with some costs to himself and I think was turned down by cheapo management whom want to
hold on to this old stuff as if knickerbockers won a title last 2-5 yrs instead of the 37 yrs
we been waiting to build an elite title NYK team.

Fresh and positive attitude, fresh team,
fresh success and fresh uniforms ! please

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3/18/2010  9:35 PM
how about we go back to old school with the short shorts?

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3/18/2010  9:37 PM
my favorites had the wide side accents... these were the last Knicks teams that played with any heart

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3/18/2010  9:39 PM
Lemme get this straight, you want the Knicks to radically alter their jerseys?
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3/18/2010  9:48 PM
TMS wrote:my favorites had the wide side accents... these were the last Knicks teams that played with any heart

These were awesome jerseys. I hope they come back.

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3/18/2010  10:12 PM
I like those side accent LJ / H20 /Camby Knick jerseys back then

The Knicks can take it to another level, bring those back and make a twist or design add to the Jerseys

I know this isnt a sore spot with lots of Knicks fans but hear me out

My contention with this franchise is they are stuck on DOING EVERYTHING possible DIFFERENT than entire nba
it ticks me off and uniforms are part of that (which is minor.)

Let me bring up some more stuff to support my point the Knicks are far off on some island in their thinking
of how to run NBA basketball successfully.

#1 The Knicks never ever tried to emulate or mimic any of the past teams success on TEAM or DEFENSE
I know its easier said than done but since Layden got deservingly ridden out of Town this Knick team
tries to make a splash the wrong way. They have always seem TOP-Heavy in talent or position players

Thus often you'd see a bunch of selfish players like Marbury on this squad or bunch of guys whom cant pass
or bunch of guys whom can play defense .. Get it ? Or bunch of guys whom can score points but cant do a
darn thing else in a basketball game. These statements are directed at the POST Ewing Knick teams.

#2 The Knicks or their Owners, or GMs or President NEVER EVER seem to emulate success or try or pretend to from
some other successfull franchises in nba such as the Chi-Bulls, the Lakers and Celtics, the Rockets and Spurs.
Knicks never EVER EVER give fans they know their tails from their hineys on how to emulate or get people in the
positions hired to use formula of success and planning. That is why the putrid NJ Nets and Rod Thorn is MORE and
MOST respected in this darn league by the WADEs and AMARE Stoudamires based on players comments on direction the org
of the NJ Nets are ran as opposed to the 'know it all' NY Knicks.

#3 More important point here is the NBA DRAFT. Since star and perhaps BEST player ever Michael Jordan was drafted and
MJ wasnt even the best player on his NCAA N.Carolina Tar Heels team he may been 2nd or 3rd at most as a senior.
Then Bulls pulled off S.Pippen draft day deal what 2-4 yrs later ?

Point I am making is you'd think Knicks Execs pay attention to crap like this that NBA DRAFT is as IMPORTANT as the
ALLSTARs whom make the league. But Nah the sick Knicks Never ..EVER DRAFT. NEVER ever ever draft well and Knicks
scouts and mgmt give fans impression they could care less about NBA draft the way other ballclubs build their success
over the yrs.

And I'm sorry I am respectful of D.McGuire and the things he'd brought to Knicks when he was alive and/or when NY was
a talk around here but the McGuires and their scouting recruitment inputs and whomever was hired thru them has been sickly
terrible and has led to downfall of Knick Draft disasters as well as Knicks being a non-entity in nba draft historically,

Other than David Lee what's last prior Knick good draft eh ? Pat Ewing draft and Mark Jackson ? I reckon them fools
on top could not messed that up.

#4 The Knicks havent made good or decent deals, screwing Ewing in last yr he was suppose to make $$ at end of contract and NY
having Ewing for services with a moderate contract at most. So bad deals and trades such as Marbury and Curry deals and also
A.McDyess, should i go further ? This team got destroyed by blunders of "FIXED QUICK" notions by the rich MSG Garden fools.
Took us fans for a ride of roster destructions

#5 Many many clubs tried to bring back guys into the nba who wore jersey proud and also added value. I dont mean to say it
always worked but sometimes you need to look at when Pistons was good and Joe Dumars was given chance to run it, same for
Rockets with ex player /coach Rudy T and all these other teams with some past in their orgs such as CELTS and LAKERS whom
lead history with NBA Titles and past players whom represented them being in fold.

You think fool Knick Mgmt would have a Monroe ? a Frazier ? a Ewing or BKing ? Oak and Starks ? Come in and offer something
to the clubs ? H20 ?

The Knicks had zip interests in ties with former players as coaches and leaders and its a mock how they honor these same winners
but they would never consider anyone else but ex pacer Herb Williams (I like) as a COACh.

I can go on and on but the Jersey uniforms are minor to all the points i made above. Fact is Knicks have done 37 yrs of so so
job (Give em credit for Ewing yrs) to get us fans to another title.

#6 I used to work IBM, and like alot of companies had tied to sports teams for some privys and specials such as game discounts,
apparel, ect. WELL I've never seen all of them discounts and super things from the Knicks.

Best thing they'd do is arrange for Knicks stars to visit IBM for mutual interests.
Guess one CHEAP outfit such as Knicks likes another such as IBM

As Knick fans their giving back has took way way too long.
We can only hope and pray for Donnie Walsh success. He seems to have his head on right and sure we'd rather have a title or elite team rather than new uniforms.

However don't take knick fans for fools. The FA summer will be interested and NY CANT BOMB OUT!

Knicks refusual to adapt with changes is more deeper than Jerseys. Ownership needs to be more concern with fans and winning
the perception of how we're viewed around NBA historically and how poor expectations are met. Too bad! I forgot J.Dolan is still there!

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3/18/2010  10:26 PM
i hear where u'r coming from on this & i agree... the Knicks are so set in their ways they never want to implement any different ideologies on how to build a championship roster... they've been trying to buy their way to a championship ever since Ewing was drafted... never once have we focused on building our young talent to be mainstays... we traded away Mark Jackson & Rod Strickland for veteran talent... David Lee is the first worthwhile rookie we've developed since i've been a fan of this team & he's been the best player on a pisspoor team his entire career... the one hope i had when Donnie Walsh took over this job was that he had a fresh outlook & would dedicate to building through the draft & not sell out for the starphuch strategy... i think it's clear this management isn't concerned with developing young players like we may have originally thought.
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3/18/2010  10:35 PM
I would be happy with a coach who prepared the team. They could wear solid blue uni's with numbers and Chuck Taylors and I would be happy if the coach game planned for individual opponents on defense.
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3/18/2010  10:41 PM
TMS wrote:i hear where u'r coming from on this & i agree... the Knicks are so set in their ways they never want to implement any different ideologies on how to build a championship roster... they've been trying to buy their way to a championship ever since Ewing was drafted... never once have we focused on building our young talent to be mainstays... we traded away Mark Jackson & Rod Strickland for veteran talent... David Lee is the first worthwhile rookie we've developed since i've been a fan of this team & he's been the best player on a pisspoor team his entire career... the one hope i had when Donnie Walsh took over this job was that he had a fresh outlook & would dedicate to building through the draft & not sell out for the starphuch strategy... i think it's clear this management isn't concerned with developing young players like we may have originally thought.

Agreed
and on D.Lee though he cant play D and Zeke Thomas destroyed us, I give Thomas credit the one thing he did take seriously was
look at talent much deeper and we knew it prior to Thomas been given chance on knicks. Zeke drafted D.Lee, Got Nate at later
picks and guys on other situations like Camby (raptors) PG Stoudamire (raptors) who many of these players were very serviceable
vets which helped their franchise rise for awhile. Trevor Ariza was drafted to NY by Zeke. Then Zeke messed up everything else.

Walsh know what he's doing sorta but he also been around. I dont think he'll mess around too much with MDA
Mike D' is going to work out OR if not I'd bet Walsh will can him prior to Walsh getting pink slip himself.

I am more worried with MDA than Walsh, cause MDA always seems to have issue with someone
If its not mgmt. (S.Kerns) or players ( Amare, Marbs, Shaq, ..ect)

MDA has proven track record we got to honor and give a chance. But I am right their with u on the D'efense thang
and his off and on use for it.

We'll see too much folks support MDA here like he can do no wrong BUT HAS.

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3/18/2010  10:42 PM
CrushAlot wrote:I would be happy with a coach who prepared the team. They could wear solid blue uni's with numbers and Chuck Taylors and I would be happy if the coach game planned for individual opponents on defense.

Hmmmm
Crush I like the Chuck taylor idea
*LOL

It works for me ... anything new

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3/18/2010  10:44 PM
TMS wrote:i hear where u'r coming from on this & i agree... the Knicks are so set in their ways they never want to implement any different ideologies on how to build a championship roster... they've been trying to buy their way to a championship ever since Ewing was drafted... never once have we focused on building our young talent to be mainstays... we traded away Mark Jackson & Rod Strickland for veteran talent... David Lee is the first worthwhile rookie we've developed since i've been a fan of this team & he's been the best player on a pisspoor team his entire career... the one hope i had when Donnie Walsh took over this job was that he had a fresh outlook & would dedicate to building through the draft & not sell out for the starphuch strategy... i think it's clear this management isn't concerned with developing young players like we may have originally thought.

but charlie "brown" smith almost... ARGH

go up STRONG chalres!!! shoulda dunked that ball... DANG NABBIT. woulda made some of the trades ok if he didnt do that nonesense

GO TEAM VENTURE!!!!!
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3/18/2010  11:10 PM
sidsanders wrote:
TMS wrote:i hear where u'r coming from on this & i agree... the Knicks are so set in their ways they never want to implement any different ideologies on how to build a championship roster... they've been trying to buy their way to a championship ever since Ewing was drafted... never once have we focused on building our young talent to be mainstays... we traded away Mark Jackson & Rod Strickland for veteran talent... David Lee is the first worthwhile rookie we've developed since i've been a fan of this team & he's been the best player on a pisspoor team his entire career... the one hope i had when Donnie Walsh took over this job was that he had a fresh outlook & would dedicate to building through the draft & not sell out for the starphuch strategy... i think it's clear this management isn't concerned with developing young players like we may have originally thought.

but charlie "brown" smith almost... ARGH

go up STRONG chalres!!! shoulda dunked that ball... DANG NABBIT. woulda made some of the trades ok if he didnt do that nonesense

we shoulda just held onto X-man & kept Mark Jackson... what better fit of a player to Pat Riley style basketball was there than this guy?

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3/18/2010  11:39 PM
You call it being Cheap but you don't really prove cheapness has anything to go with it. This team has never been shy to spend money.
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3/19/2010  5:04 AM
A new jersey would mean the start of a new ear, and for that we need a franchise player first. I also loved the previsous jerseys :)
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3/19/2010  8:00 AM
TMS wrote:my favorites had the wide side accents... these were the last Knicks teams that played with any heart

You fruit loop. Talking fashion now?

LOL.

Seriously though. Anything from 93-99 we were good. Why change? Go back to anything from that era and we're good.

What's the deal with teams changing all their jerseys anyways. Things were damn near perfect in the 90s. From the game to the jerseys to the analysts to anything with the rules or the style of play. Perfect. Go back to that and stop tinkering with the game. Stern really ****ed the game up big time. Then we had the and-1 crowd take over this past decade and it killed the game. Pisses me off.

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3/19/2010  8:37 AM
they'll probably change the design a year or two or three after Lebron signs here- that way, they can prompt even more sales.
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3/19/2010  8:41 AM
Cosmic wrote:
TMS wrote:my favorites had the wide side accents... these were the last Knicks teams that played with any heart

You fruit loop. Talking fashion now?

LOL.

Seriously though. Anything from 93-99 we were good. Why change? Go back to anything from that era and we're good.

What's the deal with teams changing all their jerseys anyways. Things were damn near perfect in the 90s. From the game to the jerseys to the analysts to anything with the rules or the style of play. Perfect. Go back to that and stop tinkering with the game. Stern really ****ed the game up big time. Then we had the and-1 crowd take over this past decade and it killed the game. Pisses me off.

i agree, the 90s were the golden age of the Knicks for anyone too young to remember the championship teams of the early 70s... the game has changed for the worse ever since, i completely agree... it's a league of primadonna's & soft as marshmallow cupcake players now... not too many true warriors still playing this game anymore like there were back then.

btw, get a load'a PJ Brown's chicken legs in that photo.

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3/19/2010  10:05 AM
I believe we're the only team in the league to have never used an alternate jersey. Those green jerseys don't count.
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3/19/2010  10:16 AM
K22 wrote:I believe we're the only team in the league to have never used an alternate jersey. Those green jerseys don't count.

we have used an alternate jersey before... technically they were throwbacks, but we have used them:

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3/19/2010  10:20 AM
Just like you said, they're throwbacks. They're not alternates we used on the regular. Can't count those either.

Then again, we could count the first one.

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