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s3231
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3/15/2010  10:37 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/15/2010  11:06 AM
BRIGGS, any thoughts on Amare's play this season?

Let me say that I've never been a huge supporter of the guy because I don't think he has the mental makeup to live up to his potential. With that said, I've been watching a lot of Suns games after the trade deadline and Amare looks like he is back to his old self.

The Suns will just dump it in to him often and he simply dominates offensively. If you look at true shooting percentage, he is 2nd among active players (Nash is 1st) which is just amazing. He is probably the most efficient big man in the game right now aside from Lee, but he plays better defense. I think defensively, he isn't as bad as people think he is and the stats seem to support that as his opponents don't have high efg percentages against him. He certainly isn't the defender he could be but his length and athleticism cause some problems. His defensive rebounding isn't where I'd like it to be but he is a decent offensive rebounder and actually rebounds a higher % of his team's offensive boards than David Lee does for us (i.e. Lee gets more offensive rebounds because of more opportunities).

Amare is averaging 31 ppg, 11 rpg, on 55% shooting in his last 7 games. The guy is simply an impact player right now and we need as many of those as we can get at this point.

Thoughts? Anyone think this is just Amare playing for a contract? Anyone prefer him over Lee?

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3/15/2010  12:18 PM
i definitely think amar'e is playing for a contract right now. he's a dominant scorer, but to me not a dominant big man. he doesn't take over any other aspect of the game and has no defensive pressence.

i would take bosh over amar'e 100 times out of a 100.

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3/15/2010  1:46 PM
i dont think hes a true center and needs a great PG like nash and players to space the floor. Question would be if u guys would be happy with Amare and Lee as our starting C/PF. It would fit in Dantoni's system but would it be enough defensively? And do we have a floor general like nash?
I like TD as our PG, but to compare him as a passer/leader/shooter that nash is for fetched.
Maybe if we draft that PG that Briggs raves about. I seriously believe Briggs has an eye for talent and should sign up to be a scout for the New York Knicks.
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3/15/2010  1:56 PM
Amare plays about as much defense as David Lee nowadays. The guy is 27 with micro-fracture surgery. Do we really want to give him a 5 yr max deal?
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3/15/2010  2:44 PM
crzymdups wrote:i definitely think amar'e is playing for a contract right now. he's a dominant scorer, but to me not a dominant big man. he doesn't take over any other aspect of the game and has no defensive pressence.

i would take bosh over amar'e 100 times out of a 100.

I prefer Bosh over Amare too but if we cannot get Bosh, is Amare a bad backup plan? I honestly don't know at this point. Going into this season, I thought we should stay away from Amare at all costs. However, after watching him extensively this season, he really seems to be playing a HUGE role for a Suns team that is currently 15 games over .500 in the West. I mean the guy is simply dominating out there.

And it's not just because of Nash. The spacing certainly helps but the more you watch the Suns play, the more you see them simply dump it into Amare, who just wills his way to the basket and either scores or gets to the line.

I'll tell you what, Lee and Amare would be an interesting front court. Not saying I want to sign both of them in the off-season but I'd be curious to see them together as Lee's jump shot would complement Amare's inside game nicely.

If we don't get Lee back though and miss out on Bosh, Amare might not be a bad option depending on the price.

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3/15/2010  2:48 PM
suns 2k10 - joe johnson + amare. bring back raja + quentin as FA's too.
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3/15/2010  4:15 PM
djsunyc wrote:suns 2k10 - joe johnson + amare. bring back raja + quentin as FA's too.

Funny part is if we traded for Nash on top of that, Suns East would probably be good enough to get to the Finals.

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3/15/2010  6:25 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/15/2010  6:25 PM
crzymdups wrote:i definitely think amar'e is playing for a contract right now. he's a dominant scorer, but to me not a dominant big man. he doesn't take over any other aspect of the game and has no defensive pressence.

i would take bosh over amar'e 100 times out of a 100.

aren't Bosh & D Lee also playing for contracts?

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3/15/2010  6:27 PM
s3231 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:i definitely think amar'e is playing for a contract right now. he's a dominant scorer, but to me not a dominant big man. he doesn't take over any other aspect of the game and has no defensive pressence.

i would take bosh over amar'e 100 times out of a 100.

I prefer Bosh over Amare too but if we cannot get Bosh, is Amare a bad backup plan? I honestly don't know at this point. Going into this season, I thought we should stay away from Amare at all costs. However, after watching him extensively this season, he really seems to be playing a HUGE role for a Suns team that is currently 15 games over .500 in the West. I mean the guy is simply dominating out there.

And it's not just because of Nash. The spacing certainly helps but the more you watch the Suns play, the more you see them simply dump it into Amare, who just wills his way to the basket and either scores or gets to the line.

I'll tell you what, Lee and Amare would be an interesting front court. Not saying I want to sign both of them in the off-season but I'd be curious to see them together as Lee's jump shot would complement Amare's inside game nicely.

If we don't get Lee back though and miss out on Bosh, Amare might not be a bad option depending on the price.

i would rather sign Luis Scola & Manu to lesser contracts than overpay for Amare or David Lee.

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3/15/2010  6:41 PM
^ Manu's gonna be 33 this summer.... you wanna pay him and watch him break down every year?
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3/15/2010  7:04 PM
martin wrote:^ Manu's gonna be 33 this summer.... you wanna pay him and watch him break down every year?

whereas Amare is durable? i'd rather sign him to a 3 year deal at ~$9-10 mil a year over signing Amare to the max for 5 or overpaying D Lee for 6... Manu keeps himself in tremendous shape, plays on both ends of the floor & is an excellent passer with a very high basketball IQ... i have no doubts he still has a ton of basketball still left in him... & we need a C who can play defense in the worst way imaginable... Scola is a solid low post defender & can produce on the offensive end as well... if we miss out on the top names this summer i'd rather build a real team w/2 way players than invest big bucks on 1 dimensional guys... both Manu & Scola play team oriented style ball & would fit in nicely into what we're trying to implement here.

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