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VIDEO: Reggie vs Knicks - Winning Time
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Cosmic
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3/14/2010  11:48 PM
VIDEO: Winning Time: Reggie Miller vs Knicks


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3/14/2010  11:53 PM
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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3/14/2010  11:59 PM
as much as i hate the concept of glorifying the ec semis... i couldnt stop watching it. miss those tteams, and sorry mike fans, a real coach (well 3).
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3/15/2010  12:00 AM
also, thanks for the upload dude...
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3/15/2010  3:21 AM
thanks for the upload.. I'm out on business tonight and all i want to do is get ****faced in my hotel room and watch this, which will in turn cause me to drink more
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3/15/2010  9:49 AM
This made me so sick last night I couldn't sleep afterward. I really, really hate that guy and really, really, miss the knicks being a contender. Too bad we've got another 2-3 years before we even have a chance at the EC playoffs and no villians like asswipe Miller to hate in the meantime.
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3/15/2010  9:58 AM
It's funny seeing everyone outraged. I watched all those games. Started watching the Knicks in 85. Reggie killed us and talked a lot of trash but he was a highly skilled player. I had no real problems with him. In fact sometimes I was just in awe of what he did and admired it.

There's other players I couldn't stand and wish they'd end up on a milk carton. Like Tim Hardaway and Zo for instance. Now you're talking PUNKS.

But Reggie? Always put on a show and that was fun. Besides we buried that Pacers team so many times it made it all the more sweeter.

I am surprised how this show was SO GOOD. SO VERY GOOD. So very well done. Until, suddenly, about 1020pm.... it ended! I was thinking.. What the? There's still the LJ 4pt Play...there's Reggie crying about "small town markets getting screwed". And then after some credits they popped in a very small short piece about the 4pt play. I thought that was a joke. I thought they should have done more for that (they still had the air time!) and then finished it off with the Pacers beating us the NEXT year.

Then the program would have been complete. It struck me as a really good movie that just abruptly ended like they ran out of budget and left you ticked off.

Not sure what they were thinking there production wise. They took a really good show and chopped it at the end. Very odd.

Anyways, this 30/30 thing isn't about 30 NBA teams. It's about 30 epic dramas that happened during 30 years of ESPN. I don't know what all the 30 are but so far it appears we might be the only basketball story.

To open their series with the Knicks/Pacers - to me - is pretty damn cool.

So give it some credit.

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3/15/2010  10:24 AM
Thanks cosmic
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3/15/2010  11:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/15/2010  11:25 AM
Cosmic wrote:It's funny seeing everyone outraged. I watched all those games. Started watching the Knicks in 85. Reggie killed us and talked a lot of trash but he was a highly skilled player. I had no real problems with him. In fact sometimes I was just in awe of what he did and admired it.

There's other players I couldn't stand and wish they'd end up on a milk carton. Like Tim Hardaway and Zo for instance. Now you're talking PUNKS.

But Reggie? Always put on a show and that was fun. Besides we buried that Pacers team so many times it made it all the more sweeter.

I am surprised how this show was SO GOOD. SO VERY GOOD. So very well done. Until, suddenly, about 1020pm.... it ended! I was thinking.. What the? There's still the LJ 4pt Play...there's Reggie crying about "small town markets getting screwed". And then after some credits they popped in a very small short piece about the 4pt play. I thought that was a joke. I thought they should have done more for that (they still had the air time!) and then finished it off with the Pacers beating us the NEXT year.

Then the program would have been complete. It struck me as a really good movie that just abruptly ended like they ran out of budget and left you ticked off.

Not sure what they were thinking there production wise. They took a really good show and chopped it at the end. Very odd.

Anyways, this 30/30 thing isn't about 30 NBA teams. It's about 30 epic dramas that happened during 30 years of ESPN. I don't know what all the 30 are but so far it appears we might be the only basketball story.

To open their series with the Knicks/Pacers - to me - is pretty damn cool.

So give it some credit.

my outrage is over how bad the team has become, not miller...

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3/15/2010  12:27 PM
Fantastic !!! greatly appreciated...
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3/15/2010  1:45 PM
Great watch. I hate Reggie.

I have forgotten how nasty it was back in the 90s.

What a great ending with LJ and the 4 pt play.

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3/15/2010  3:21 PM
It was well done but a bit overblown, I thought, especially when in the intro they said something to the effect of 'Reggie made it hard for NY to sleep at night.' Really?! The build up to the show made it seem like Reggie owned us which wasn't the case. As great as that game 5 performance was (and it was one of the all time great quarters of baskeball I ever seen right next to Isiah's 4th quarter against the Lekrs in 88), the Pacers still ost the series. Not only that, but the next year, despite Reggies heroic performance in game 1, if Ewing would have made the finger roll, we would have won that series.


Now the plot was great (Spike Lee and Reggie, hick town vs big city) but a bit overblown. Brings back alot of memories though.

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3/15/2010  3:28 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/15/2010  3:29 PM
Uptown wrote:It was well done but a bit overblown, I thought, especially when in the intro they said something to the effect of 'Reggie made it hard for NY to sleep at night.' Really?! The build up to the show made it seem like Reggie owned us which wasn't the case. As great as that game 5 performance was (and it was one of the all time great quarters of baskeball I ever seen right next to Isiah's 4th quarter against the Lekrs in 88), the Pacers still ost the series. Not only that, but the next year, despite Reggies heroic performance in game 1, if Ewing would have made the finger roll, we would have won that series.


Now the plot was great (Spike Lee and Reggie, hick town vs big city) but a bit overblown. Brings back alot of memories though.

TOTALLY agree Up. Way overblown. Now way did Reggie own the Knicks anything... What a farce...We fixed his wagon quite a few times over the years during that era.

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3/15/2010  8:47 PM
sidsanders wrote:
Cosmic wrote:It's funny seeing everyone outraged. I watched all those games. Started watching the Knicks in 85. Reggie killed us and talked a lot of trash but he was a highly skilled player. I had no real problems with him. In fact sometimes I was just in awe of what he did and admired it.

There's other players I couldn't stand and wish they'd end up on a milk carton. Like Tim Hardaway and Zo for instance. Now you're talking PUNKS.

But Reggie? Always put on a show and that was fun. Besides we buried that Pacers team so many times it made it all the more sweeter.

I am surprised how this show was SO GOOD. SO VERY GOOD. So very well done. Until, suddenly, about 1020pm.... it ended! I was thinking.. What the? There's still the LJ 4pt Play...there's Reggie crying about "small town markets getting screwed". And then after some credits they popped in a very small short piece about the 4pt play. I thought that was a joke. I thought they should have done more for that (they still had the air time!) and then finished it off with the Pacers beating us the NEXT year.

Then the program would have been complete. It struck me as a really good movie that just abruptly ended like they ran out of budget and left you ticked off.

Not sure what they were thinking there production wise. They took a really good show and chopped it at the end. Very odd.

Anyways, this 30/30 thing isn't about 30 NBA teams. It's about 30 epic dramas that happened during 30 years of ESPN. I don't know what all the 30 are but so far it appears we might be the only basketball story.

To open their series with the Knicks/Pacers - to me - is pretty damn cool.

So give it some credit.

my outrage is over how bad the team has become, not miller...


I agree. When you watch how hard those guys worked, how much passion effort and desire they had it is really hard to watch this current group play and D'Antoni coach. Unfortunately I don't think anything is going to change anytime soon.
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3/15/2010  9:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/15/2010  9:24 PM
I saw this on MSG last night. It was done well. You could tell they were passionate about the subject. I liked how they pulled no punches especially with uncomfortable jabs at Starks and Mason at times. Ewing handled his failure with humility and grace though. Mason looked high as hell. He doesn't look in shape.

I liked how Reggie ended it saying "I just with it could've been the Eastern Conference finals". It was really just a personal victory for Reggie. Indiana got killed by Orlando in the next series. They won nothing.

Interesting that they used the Pacers "Boom Baby" broadcaster instead of using Marv's voice. Was it a money issue? I never realized the "boom baby" thing before but i guess it was big in Indiana.

They definitely overdid the NY stuff. NY gets demonized unfairly.

Also interesting that this was such a big deal for them but it wasn't even our biggest rivalry of the era. We were like the Bulls to their Knicks. Indiana was not feared. They feared us. They made a big deal about hicks vs big city. We were just going about our NYC bball bidness and they happened to be in the way. We weren't psyched out by them. They were psyched out by us. It was like when Shaq called Sacramento the 'Queens' cuz he wasn't scared of them (Not that we even cared enough to call Indiana anything).

This was also interesting for the Cheryl Miller big-sister angle. I thought it was interesting that the biggest night of Reggie's high school career was overshadowed by Cheryl's 103 point game.

It was a story of redemption. Of overcoming personal demons. And it made me like Reggie Miller.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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3/15/2010  9:30 PM
kam77 wrote:I saw this on MSG last night. It was done well. You could tell they were passionate about the subject. I liked how they pulled no punches especially with uncomfortable jabs at Starks and Mason at times. Ewing handled his failure with humility and grace though. Mason looked high as hell. He doesn't look in shape.

I liked how Reggie ended it saying "I just with it could've been the Eastern Conference finals". It was really just a personal victory for Reggie. Indiana got killed by Orlando in the next series. They won nothing.

Interesting that they used the Pacers "Boom Baby" broadcaster instead of using Marv's voice. Was it a money issue? I never realized the "boom baby" thing before but i guess it was big in Indiana.

They definitely overdid the NY stuff. NY gets demonized unfairly.

Also interesting that this was such a big deal for them but it wasn't even our biggest rivalry of the era. We were like the Bulls to their Knicks. Indiana was not feared. They feared us. They made a big deal about hicks vs big city. We were just going about our NYC bball bidness and they happened to be in the way. We weren't psyched out by them. They were psyched out by us. It was like when Shaq called Sacramento the 'Queens' cuz he wasn't scared of them (Not that we even cared enough to call Indiana anything).

This was also interesting for the Cheryl Miller big-sister angle. I thought it was interesting that the biggest night of Reggie's high school career was overshadowed by Cheryl's 103 point game.

It was a story of redemption. Of overcoming personal demons. And it made me like Reggie Miller.

Mase has those eyes. He always looked like he had been partying even after games. I didn't like the treatment of Starks and Mason. They were both in a tough spot at the end of that game with Harper out. Starks was fouled and Mase should not have been inbounding in that situation. Those were great years and are a big part of why I still try to watch every game today.
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3/15/2010  9:37 PM
And of course, that was only a turnover because Reggie knocked Greg Anthony down.
They let a lot of fouls go. I also thought that Greg Anthony's final drive of game 7 would've been called a foul in today's NBA.
We should have won that series. Indiana got lucky the refs allowed the Pacers to wipe the floor with GA.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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3/15/2010  9:50 PM
kam77 wrote:I saw this on MSG last night. It was done well. You could tell they were passionate about the subject. I liked how they pulled no punches especially with uncomfortable jabs at Starks and Mason at times. Ewing handled his failure with humility and grace though. Mason looked high as hell. He doesn't look in shape.

I liked how Reggie ended it saying "I just with it could've been the Eastern Conference finals". It was really just a personal victory for Reggie. Indiana got killed by Orlando in the next series. They won nothing.

Interesting that they used the Pacers "Boom Baby" broadcaster instead of using Marv's voice. Was it a money issue? I never realized the "boom baby" thing before but i guess it was big in Indiana.

They definitely overdid the NY stuff. NY gets demonized unfairly.

Also interesting that this was such a big deal for them but it wasn't even our biggest rivalry of the era. We were like the Bulls to their Knicks. Indiana was not feared. They feared us. They made a big deal about hicks vs big city. We were just going about our NYC bball bidness and they happened to be in the way. We weren't psyched out by them. They were psyched out by us. It was like when Shaq called Sacramento the 'Queens' cuz he wasn't scared of them (Not that we even cared enough to call Indiana anything).

This was also interesting for the Cheryl Miller big-sister angle. I thought it was interesting that the biggest night of Reggie's high school career was overshadowed by Cheryl's 103 point game.

It was a story of redemption. Of overcoming personal demons. And it made me like Reggie Miller.

Reggie is still a trashtalkin' wise ass punk if u ask me... i couldn't stand him then & i can't stand him now... taking those cheap shots at John Starks making him out to be the dumbest player who ever played & a choke artist was not cool in my book... Starks owned Reggie on more than 1 occasion if my memory serves, they make it out like Reggie was Michael Jordan & Starks was some scrub end of the bench journeyman who was lucky to be in the NBA.

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3/16/2010  9:25 PM
Cosmic wrote:Anyways, this 30/30 thing isn't about 30 NBA teams. It's about 30 epic dramas that happened during 30 years of ESPN. I don't know what all the 30 are but so far it appears we might be the only basketball story.

To open their series with the Knicks/Pacers - to me - is pretty damn cool.

So give it some credit.


The Director (Dan Klores) is a Knicks fan, who is frineds with Walsh, so he was very close to those Pacer teams of the 90's. He chose to only do 94-95, because that was what he considered to be the fascinating years since they were while MJ was gone. He threw in the 4pt play after the credits as a bone for us Knicks fans.

As for 30 for 30, they didn't open the series with Wining Time... this is like the 7th or 8th in the series. This was just the first one since the Winter hiatus. Also, there have been other basketball ones. There was one in October or November about Len Bias, and there is one coming up about Iverson....

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3/17/2010  2:31 AM
my man cosmic!!!
VIDEO: Reggie vs Knicks - Winning Time

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