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BasketballJones
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Is it time for a ritual coach-firing to exorcise the demons of losing? I hope so, because there's nothing I love more than a good coach-firing. I don't think Donnie will be able to top the utter humiliation meted out to Don Chaney and, to a lesser, extent, Larry Brown, but there's always hope.

I say it doesn't matter what the myriad problems with this team might be. Just fire the coach already.

What do you think? Should Mike D'Antoni be fired?

Yes
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Allanfan20
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3/13/2010  12:20 PM
No vote yet, but I'm starting to be swayed towards no.
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Marv
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3/13/2010  12:22 PM

GET HIM!!!!!!
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3/13/2010  12:25 PM
BBJones did you even bother to vote on your own poll? What do you think?
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3/13/2010  12:32 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/13/2010  5:20 PM
Pharzeone wrote:BBJones did you even bother to vote on your own poll? What do you think?

I voted yes, because I love me a good coach firing. I say wait till the next home game. Sometime after the game starts, send a gang of security guards to the sidelines to bodily eject D'Antoni from MSG. Outside the stadium, a crowd such as the one depicted in Marv's post will be waiting to "escort" him from the city.

It would make some great television.

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3/13/2010  1:26 PM
Nah I think we got to wait to the summer and sign FA or get role players to feel
tons of needs Knicks got which can make them competitive.

No to firing MDA right now cause after the summer and Walsh puts his moves on transactions
I dont want MDA to have any more putrid excuses come Sept/Oct/Nov 2010 with the roster.

Tired of his act .. Lets see what the falls brings and whether this coach with good track record
can step up to the plate and change the fortune of Knicks.

I'd say if Knicks are 10 Games under .500 around Christmas time 2010 then he'd outta be canned/axed/fired !

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3/13/2010  1:30 PM
I want Avey Johnson to come in as coach to restore defense as a priority for the knicks again
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3/13/2010  1:51 PM
I hate him, but he's got until next year for sure.
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3/13/2010  2:03 PM
Can't fire him yet. The plan was 2 years of rebuild. What they do with all the cap space and how MDA performs next year is key. I would give him a B+ right now.

Goal of the team
1. Purge the team of the (non)talent and their hideous contracts that Layden and Isiah has collected.
2. Be ready for Summer of 2010.

MDA accomplishments to meet this goal.
1. Raised the value of ZBo so that Walsh can trade his contract for ending contracts.
2. Raised the value of Jamal so that Walsh can trade his contract for ending contracts.
3. Raised the value of Fishlips so that Walsh can trade his contract for ending contracts.
4. Removed a nut job in Dinglebury.
5. Made No D Lee into an All-Star.


MDA follies.
1. Did not develop Hill or TD.
2. Showed too much loyalty to Dudu. (This might be a good thing to attract FAs)
3. Abandoned SSOL offense due to inept play from Dudu.

Coach Pringles needs at least 1 more year before we call for his head.

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3/13/2010  2:20 PM
Voted no. It would be unfair to fire him at this point imo. The roster needs to improve before he Can be fully blamed for All the shyt.. But I would've liked Avery Johnson as the coach instead, but we can't change coaches all the phuckin time. Mda needs a fair chance, and he hasn't had that yet, imo.
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3/13/2010  3:00 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Can't fire him yet. The plan was 2 years of rebuild. What they do with all the cap space and how MDA performs next year is key. I would give him a B+ right now.

Goal of the team
1. Purge the team of the (non)talent and their hideous contracts that Layden and Isiah has collected.
2. Be ready for Summer of 2010.

MDA accomplishments to meet this goal.
1. Raised the value of ZBo so that Walsh can trade his contract for ending contracts.
2. Raised the value of Jamal so that Walsh can trade his contract for ending contracts.
3. Raised the value of Fishlips so that Walsh can trade his contract for ending contracts.
4. Removed a nut job in Dinglebury.
5. Made No D Lee into an All-Star.


MDA follies.
1. Did not develop Hill or TD.
2. Showed too much loyalty to Dudu. (This might be a good thing to attract FAs)
3. Abandoned SSOL offense due to inept play from Dudu.

Coach Pringles needs at least 1 more year before we call for his head.

if he did this, no way they had to unload hill/swap/12 pick... if he DID raise his value... WOW thats awful.

GO TEAM VENTURE!!!!!
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3/13/2010  3:07 PM
Fire him for what? The motley crew he has playing for him couldn't be successful with MDA's (or any) system. I agree he hasn't done a great job, but the whole organization is just biding time until the summer.

If he stinks next year, then we look at Jax or Avery as replacements.

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3/13/2010  4:26 PM
sidsanders wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:Can't fire him yet. The plan was 2 years of rebuild. What they do with all the cap space and how MDA performs next year is key. I would give him a B+ right now.

Goal of the team
1. Purge the team of the (non)talent and their hideous contracts that Layden and Isiah has collected.
2. Be ready for Summer of 2010.

MDA accomplishments to meet this goal.
1. Raised the value of ZBo so that Walsh can trade his contract for ending contracts.
2. Raised the value of Jamal so that Walsh can trade his contract for ending contracts.
3. Raised the value of Fishlips so that Walsh can trade his contract for ending contracts.
4. Removed a nut job in Dinglebury.
5. Made No D Lee into an All-Star.


MDA follies.
1. Did not develop Hill or TD.
2. Showed too much loyalty to Dudu. (This might be a good thing to attract FAs)
3. Abandoned SSOL offense due to inept play from Dudu.

Coach Pringles needs at least 1 more year before we call for his head.

if he did this, no way they had to unload hill/swap/12 pick... if he DID raise his value... WOW thats awful.

seriously, u actually think playing Fishlips 35+ a night raised his non-existent trade value? we gave up all those assets just to unload his sorry behind... we could have done that had he not been playing 1 second of ball this year & been developing Jordan Hill in the process... how about raising the trade value of Jordan Hill then if we were going to be so ready to use him as an asset to dump a contract? maybe we could have kept the future picks if we had gone that route? or maybe we decide Jordan Hill is worth holding onto & just been patient instead of panicking like i used to do the day before a paper was due & putting any old bullsheit on paper to try & squeak by with a passing grade?

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3/13/2010  4:40 PM
playa2 wrote:I want Avey Johnson to come in as coach to restore defense as a priority for the knicks again

i agree, i would much prefer a defensive minded head coach like AJ... i'm done w/MDA & his genius system that can't even win us 35 games with this roster & with his constant company line BS to blow smoke over his nonsensical rotations... there are coaches in the NBA working with less or equal talent than we have whose teams are playing better basketball... there is not 1 player on this team that i believe has truly benefitted from having MDA as a head coach for the past 2 years other than David Lee... even his boy Gallo IMO has had his development retarded by being encouraged to launch up 3's at will rather than on working on the other aspects of his game in the process... Gallo's hungry to be a great defender but he's not getting any help by learning under a coach who places no emphasis on playing any... Wilson could grow into a shutdown defender if he had the right tutoring... & the one kid that actually plays tremendous defense can't even break into the rotation until 3/4 of the season is already down the drain.

i don't see the point in going another year w/a coach whose philosophies i don't even agree with... i say fire him this summer & grab a coach who preaches defense as the #1 priority... IMO we would be better off in the long run, regardless if people are sick of the coaching merry go round or not... it's not like any of these players has a clue how to run MDA's SSOL system after 2 years anyway & most of these guys won't even be here after this season ends, so we'll be starting over from scratch as it is... if the #1 goal is to land Lebron James this summer, then we should be targetting a coach who preaches defense... if you wanna take Lebron at his words, he doesn't want to play on a team with players who don't pride themselves on playing that style of basketball... so why the hell are we going forward with a head coach who doesn't care to play that style?

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3/13/2010  5:21 PM
TMS wrote:
playa2 wrote:I want Avey Johnson to come in as coach to restore defense as a priority for the knicks again

i agree, i would much prefer a defensive minded head coach like AJ... i'm done w/MDA & his genius system that can't even win us 35 games with this roster & with his constant company line BS to blow smoke over his nonsensical rotations... there are coaches in the NBA working with less or equal talent than we have whose teams are playing better basketball... there is not 1 player on this team that i believe has truly benefitted from having MDA as a head coach for the past 2 years other than David Lee... even his boy Gallo IMO has had his development retarded by being encouraged to launch up 3's at will rather than on working on the other aspects of his game in the process... Gallo's hungry to be a great defender but he's not getting any help by learning under a coach who places no emphasis on playing any... Wilson could grow into a shutdown defender if he had the right tutoring... & the one kid that actually plays tremendous defense can't even break into the rotation until 3/4 of the season is already down the drain.

i don't see the point in going another year w/a coach whose philosophies i don't even agree with... i say fire him this summer & grab a coach who preaches defense as the #1 priority... IMO we would be better off in the long run, regardless if people are sick of the coaching merry go round or not... it's not like any of these players has a clue how to run MDA's SSOL system after 2 years anyway & most of these guys won't even be here after this season ends, so we'll be starting over from scratch as it is... if the #1 goal is to land Lebron James this summer, then we should be targetting a coach who preaches defense... if you wanna take Lebron at his words, he doesn't want to play on a team with players who don't pride themselves on playing that style of basketball... so why the hell are we going forward with a head coach who doesn't care to play that style?

I want Avery Johnson to come here so that we can see him get fired too.

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3/13/2010  5:24 PM
i'd rather keep firing coaches that don't do a good job than stick with one that does a horrible job.
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3/13/2010  5:25 PM
TMS wrote:i'd rather keep firing coaches that don't do a good job than stick with one that does a horrible job.

Whatever. Just keep firing 'em.

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3/13/2010  5:29 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
TMS wrote:
playa2 wrote:I want Avey Johnson to come in as coach to restore defense as a priority for the knicks again

i agree, i would much prefer a defensive minded head coach like AJ... i'm done w/MDA & his genius system that can't even win us 35 games with this roster & with his constant company line BS to blow smoke over his nonsensical rotations... there are coaches in the NBA working with less or equal talent than we have whose teams are playing better basketball... there is not 1 player on this team that i believe has truly benefitted from having MDA as a head coach for the past 2 years other than David Lee... even his boy Gallo IMO has had his development retarded by being encouraged to launch up 3's at will rather than on working on the other aspects of his game in the process... Gallo's hungry to be a great defender but he's not getting any help by learning under a coach who places no emphasis on playing any... Wilson could grow into a shutdown defender if he had the right tutoring... & the one kid that actually plays tremendous defense can't even break into the rotation until 3/4 of the season is already down the drain.

i don't see the point in going another year w/a coach whose philosophies i don't even agree with... i say fire him this summer & grab a coach who preaches defense as the #1 priority... IMO we would be better off in the long run, regardless if people are sick of the coaching merry go round or not... it's not like any of these players has a clue how to run MDA's SSOL system after 2 years anyway & most of these guys won't even be here after this season ends, so we'll be starting over from scratch as it is... if the #1 goal is to land Lebron James this summer, then we should be targetting a coach who preaches defense... if you wanna take Lebron at his words, he doesn't want to play on a team with players who don't pride themselves on playing that style of basketball... so why the hell are we going forward with a head coach who doesn't care to play that style?

I want Avery Johnson to come here so that we can see him get fired too.

that's great. he does that little high-pitched s##t when he gets fired.

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3/13/2010  5:29 PM
If Avery was here we'd be calling for his head as the team would have no firepower.

Think really he'd do that much better a job? Really?

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3/13/2010  5:42 PM
Nalod wrote:If Avery was here we'd be calling for his head as the team would have no firepower.

Think really he'd do that much better a job? Really?

No, he wouldn't. We would still be a piss-poor defensive team just like we were when defensive guru Larry Brown was the coach. We still lack the defensive presence in the paint, and the defensive presence at the top of the key. You aint winning in this league without the horses.

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3/13/2010  5:52 PM
Uptown wrote:
Nalod wrote:If Avery was here we'd be calling for his head as the team would have no firepower.

Think really he'd do that much better a job? Really?

No, he wouldn't. We would still be a piss-poor defensive team just like we were when defensive guru Larry Brown was the coach. We still lack the defensive presence in the paint, and the defensive presence at the top of the key. You aint winning in this league without the horses.

Larry Brown sealed his own fate w/his bickering w/Isiah's posterboy, Marbury... he had a different agenda that had nothing to do with winning... dude was positioning to take over the GMing duties & replace the guy who hired him to begin with... i don't think u can use LB as a fair comparison here... if Donnie were to have hired Avery Johnson w/the same understanding MDA came in here with, do u think he would have alienated guys like Nate Robinson & Larry Hughes the way MDA has? do u think D Lee would be given free reign to allow guys to penetrate at will into the lane w/o drawing a charge or do u think he'd have been in D Lee's face to put forth the effort on defense? do u think Gallo, Al Harrington & Eddie House would be allowed to launch up 3's with no conscience? (assuming we would have even traded for Eddie House & Al or drafted Gallo to begin with)... i think it's fair to assume things would be different if AJ were hired over MDA... can't say for certain if we'd have been a better basketball team, but we'd at least be putting an emphasis on playing defense.

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