C--?
F- Gay
F Gallinari
F/G Chandler
PG?
6th T Douglas
7th Walker
8th man--?
9th man--?

But i am not sure if Gay is worth max money player, but at least he still has room for improvement vs johnson who will be in the decline from his new contract. In the end, I rather grab the younger player and I DONT THINK we need 2 max players. WE NEED GOOD CONTRACTS, WORTHY CONTRACTS! My point is to not overpay for a 42w team. I know it would make the jordan hill trade retarded but at least in 2011 we can sign maybe 2 more max players or 1 max in 2011 if we sign worthy contracts.

Of course if we get Lebron or Wade or at least Bosh, then decide to overpay for talent i dont mind. BUT not for joe johnson.

RonRon wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:No brainer
Sign Rudy Gay 5 yrs 70mm
Bill Walker 4 yrs 10mm

C--?
F- Gay
F Gallinari
F/G Chandler
PG?
6th T Douglas
7th Walker
8th man--?
9th man--?

no brainer for walker but not for nothing, I think thats an insult to him. Hes probably worth 3-4m per year already based upon his performance when given minutes.

So you automatically earn 3 or 4 million by playing nice on a HORRIFIC team for no more than 10 games? Can't agree with that one, but I will definitely pick up his option and see if he can earn a contract like that for next Summer.

Max contract LBJ Chris Bosh

if not accepted within 2 minutes after 12

Rudy Gay max
Option on walker
Use my operating leverage in additional cap space in combination with other assets 2011 pick 3mm and pick 35 to get up high in the draft to get Jimmer Freddette as my long term solution at PG
D Lee 6 years 60mm
K Fasenko 2 years 2mm
J Boone 3 years 4.5mm
Cj Watson 3 years 10mm

Line up 2010
C David Lee
F D Gallinari
F W Chandler
F Rudy Gay
G C J Watson
6th T Douglas
7th B Walker
8 J Fredette
9 J Boone
10 Fasenko

Following year sign Mark Gasol and move David Lee to either PF or 6th man.
Line ip 2011

C- Mark Gasol
PF Gallinari
F Rudy Gay
G Wilson Chandler
G Jimmer Fredette
6th David Lee
7th T Douglas
8 Bill Walker
9 CJ Watson

loweyecue wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:As things shape out this would be my plan

Max contract LBJ Chris Bosh

if not accepted within 2 minutes after 12

Rudy Gay max
Option on walker
Use my operating leverage in additional cap space in combination with other assets 2011 pick 3mm and pick 35 to get up high in the draft to get Jimmer Freddette as my long term solution at PG
D Lee 6 years 60mm
K Fasenko 2 years 2mm
J Boone 3 years 4.5mm
Cj Watson 3 years 10mm

Line up 2010
C David Lee
F D Gallinari
F W Chandler
F Rudy Gay
G C J Watson
6th T Douglas
7th B Walker
8 J Fredette
9 J Boone
10 Fasenko

Following year sign Mark Gasol and move David Lee to either PF or 6th man.
Line ip 2011

C- Mark Gasol
PF Gallinari
F Rudy Gay
G Wilson Chandler
G Jimmer Fredette
6th David Lee
7th T Douglas
8 Bill Walker
9 CJ Watson

Nice one Briggsy, you want to dictate terms to LBJ and Dino?
Don't think it works that way. And anyway that team isn't very good.
We have to get Bosh, LBJ is on the bubble. If we have Bosh at C then with Gay and Gallo as forwards is ok. Lee/Gay/Gallo too small.

Marc Gasol? Shoudlnt we go for Melo or try to trade for CP3?
I have not seen this guy Fredette. I would be ok with keeping T-mac if healthy and S-Rod for one year deals. Not sure we can do all that. I am not sold on Gay at max either.

1 nasty downside with waiting on LBJ is getting stuck with nothing. You'll know by FA if bosh and LBJ are coming here--I don't think they are but Rudy Gay would. Bringing in some solid cheap bigs to play with D Lee etc.. might have to be a 2010 option. We need a PG and a C and I DO NOT want to spend 8-9-10mm on Ray Felton. The more I think about it there is no way NO way we could get Chris paul unless we started to part with multiple guys like Gallinari Chandler picks--Im not doing that. I think I would spend much much less and go get Freddette with an understudy and use the bulk of my cash on a C and star wing.

BRIGGS wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:As things shape out this would be my plan

Max contract LBJ Chris Bosh

if not accepted within 2 minutes after 12

Rudy Gay max
Option on walker
Use my operating leverage in additional cap space in combination with other assets 2011 pick 3mm and pick 35 to get up high in the draft to get Jimmer Freddette as my long term solution at PG
D Lee 6 years 60mm
K Fasenko 2 years 2mm
J Boone 3 years 4.5mm
Cj Watson 3 years 10mm

Line up 2010
C David Lee
F D Gallinari
F W Chandler
F Rudy Gay
G C J Watson
6th T Douglas
7th B Walker
8 J Fredette
9 J Boone
10 Fasenko

Following year sign Mark Gasol and move David Lee to either PF or 6th man.
Line ip 2011

C- Mark Gasol
PF Gallinari
F Rudy Gay
G Wilson Chandler
G Jimmer Fredette
6th David Lee
7th T Douglas
8 Bill Walker
9 CJ Watson

Nice one Briggsy, you want to dictate terms to LBJ and Dino?
Don't think it works that way. And anyway that team isn't very good.
We have to get Bosh, LBJ is on the bubble. If we have Bosh at C then with Gay and Gallo as forwards is ok. Lee/Gay/Gallo too small.

Marc Gasol? Shoudlnt we go for Melo or try to trade for CP3?
I have not seen this guy Fredette. I would be ok with keeping T-mac if healthy and S-Rod for one year deals. Not sure we can do all that. I am not sold on Gay at max either.

1 nasty downside with waiting on LBJ is getting stuck with nothing. You'll know by FA if bosh and LBJ are coming here--I don't think they are but Rudy Gay would. Bringing in some solid cheap bigs to play with D Lee etc.. might have to be a 2010 option. We need a PG and a C and I DO NOT want to spend 8-9-10mm on Ray Felton. The more I think about it there is no way NO way we could get Chris paul unless we started to part with multiple guys like Gallinari Chandler picks--Im not doing that. I think I would spend much much less and go get Freddette with an understudy and use the bulk of my cash on a C and star wing.

Not a bad solution. And the more I think about Felton now -- I like him but he might just want too much money. He might be worth it to us for the mid-level in the type of plan where we could get Bosh & Felton this summer, conserve some money and then prepare to go after Melo in 2011 (in which case, the Bobcats would definitely match the offer). But yeah, $8-10 million would be a little too much. I tend to agree...

EMS -- for what it's worth, the only time I saw Fredette play live was just recently -- he didn't have a good offensive game and appeared to be suffering through some lingering effects from just being sick but you can tell even in this game where he clearly wasn't 100%, he did have a good feel for passing the ball. When he's on though and 100% healthy, it appears he can do a lot of things -- shoot the lights out from deep, get to the line, make his FTs at a very high clip (in his recent 45 pt. effort, he jokingly remarked after the game how he was upset he missed a FT, the only one he missed in like 20-something attempts. Remarkable..)...To be fair, I question his athleticism and quickness for the NBA a little bit along with the lack of top competition he plays against on a nightly basis but Briggs is right, he does have nice talent and is very reminicent of Steve Nash & Mark Price, right down to their limitations as well. And those limitations never stopped those guys from being top PGs. I can definitely see the comparisons. I'd be fine with bringing Fredette in here...

earthmansurfer wrote:I wonder if No-D'Antoni would go for Freddette? He can score with the best of them it seems. But he is only getting 4.7 assists a game. Is he a good pg (like does he not have much to pass to?

I would love to get him on our team, but really wonder if D'Antoni is going pure vets. All this talk is fun, but I just get the feeling that D'Antoni doesn't want any more rooks. That said, we do have 2 second round picks, a few assets and cash, so we probably could move up in the draft...

You could easily tell he could be a very solid assist guy. He's pressed to score with this team but he will also find the open man. Just like Steph Curry he is the main focus of the opposing D---not only do they put their best defender on him--they check him with secondary guys. He should've used the pass more last night--but he has the package--and he's not a slouch on the D--not great but not a slouch. He's an engine component for this type of system. Name me other PGs who can do what he can do right now that we have ANY legit chance to get? He's a unique player who isnt getting the hype. remember were talking legit chance to acquire--

BRIGGS wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:You realize we could just pick up Walker's option for next year, right? He's making $800,000 and I would say it's almost a done deal that he's coming back.

I thought he was an rfa---that's fine

Yup. Walker's contract has 2 years left that is team option as per hoopshype.com. Same with Giddens.
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm

I DONT like Gay for that much money. We have enough good middle guys (2/3/4). We needs playmakers and size in the post. I know he's older but Joe Johnson is twice the player Rudy Gay is. I would much rather offer JJ 5 years starting at $12-$14mm than max out Gay. Especially when you look at the lower tier FAs we could add with the left over money. That or take a big gamble and offer 5years $50mm to Tyrus Thomas.

fishmike wrote:Walker has 2 more team options at 800k and 950(ish)k. He's ours for the next two years and we will have his Bird rights. I think if/when Giddens gets healthy and you see him the Nate trade will be a very solid job by Walsh.

I DONT like Gay for that much money. We have enough good middle guys (2/3/4). We needs playmakers and size in the post. I know he's older but Joe Johnson is twice the player Rudy Gay is. I would much rather offer JJ 5 years starting at $12-$14mm than max out Gay. Especially when you look at the lower tier FAs we could add with the left over money. That or take a big gamble and offer 5years $50mm to Tyrus Thomas.

a max for Rudy Gay starts at $12M because of his amount of years in the league. so Rudy would be a 5yr ~$70M commitment. i think that would be decent, but only if bosh says no.

if bosh says no, i'd try to sign joe johnson and rudy and dlee. then offer wilson chandler and eddy curry for beidrins and cj watson in GSW (saves gsw a lot of money and gives them a good player in wilson).

pg - cj watson
sg - joe johnson
sf - rudy gay
pf - david lee
c - andreis biedrins

bench: gallo, bill walker, sergio, bender, toney

edit: also, i'd love to add tyrus thomas, but i think charlotte re-signs him no question with the ownership settled.