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Childs2Dudley
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3/12/2010  1:03 AM
The rest of us are looking at field goal attempts. We're wondering what's wrong with Danilo Gallinari on those nights he has single-digit shots and looks forgotten in the offense.

But while I'm standing in the visitors locker room at the AT&T Center, marveling at the fact that Gallinari has the wingspan of a Super 80 as he demonstrates to me how he plays denial defense, it's pretty obvious that this kid is far more of a basketball sophisticate than any of us hacks have ever acknowledged.

And I learned in this conversation that instead of going to Mike D'Antoni to complain about "touches" and his scant FGAs, Gallinari's request from his coach had a lot more purpose and responsibility.

"That's what I really want; every game to play defense against the best," he said. "That's what I asked Mike and that's what I'm trying to do."

Gallo has recently matched up against LeBron James, Joe Johnson and, on Wednesday, Manu Ginobili. And while he had a strong fourth quarter scoring wise -- eight of his 14 points, including a wild back-to-the-basket, over-his-head flip -- Gallinari was grumbling about Ginobili's 28 points. I told him those minutes in crunch time against a team like the Spurs mean a lot for his development. He didn't want to hear it.

"It means a lot, especially means a lot when Ginobili is kicking my ---," he grumbled.

We talked about what he tried to do against Ginobili and one thing was clear, Gallo did his homework. He laid out all of Ginobili's tendencies and the best way to play him. He talked about what he tried to do throughout the game and the amazing ability that Manu has to counter attack.

"He's really good in that first step, he has a long first step so once you try to stay with him on the first time, you have problems with the second one," Gallo explained. "He's really good at finding the right space. Even if you're sending him right, he's always trying to find a way to go back to his left and shoot with his left."

Then he again got frustrated as he recalled specific baskets in the game and how Ginobili used his long, skinny arms to slice through your defense and even make it look like you're fouling him when actually he's the one initiating the contact.

"He's been playing great the last few games and he's an all-star," Gallinari then concluded. "It's always tough to guard him, but I think I could have done a better job. I like to play defensive games against his type of players, but tonight I didn't do a good job."

For a moment, I was so damn impressed with the kid I forgot I was interviewing him. We engaged in a discussion about the philosophy of defense in the NBA, how star players always seem to get the ball and THEN there is a defensive scheme to stop him. Gallinari says in Europe his favorite strategy was to completely deny the star -- don't let him even get it or at least make him work extra hard to get it --and force someone else to beat you.

I recalled the play he made on Allen Iverson in that game at Philadelphia on Jan. 13, when Gallinari read perfectly a pass from Elton Brand to Iverson and cut off any chance for Iverson to shoot a game-winning 15-footer. Iverson was forced to kick it out to Rodney Carney, who missed a three-pointer at the buzzer for a 93-92 Knicks win.

Very few people made note of Gallinari's play. But it was a veteran close-out. Got it out of the hands of an all-star caliber closer and left it up to a role player.

We both agreed that teams don't put enough pressure on the point guard as he brings the ball up the floor, either. There should be pressure from three-quarter court and up. By the third quarter, the point guard is so exhaused by the defense his play will start to deteriorate. Or the team will adjust and have him give up the ball sooner, which takes the team out of their comfort zone.

I believe Toney Douglas can be extremely effective in this kind of a role. I always thought Nate Robinson could do it, too. Of course it does wear out the defender some, which will impact his performance on offense. But that's why it's always best to have a backup PG to give your starter rest.

Back to Gallo: Again, he stood in the middle of the room, as if he was denying me the ball. His right hand about a foot from my chest, arms extended. His left hand seemed so far away. It was at this moment I realized exactly why he can be an effective defender: ridiculously long reach. I mean picture a telephone pole in the street and the wires as they extend to the next pole. He looked like he could stand on a pitchers mound and tag out runners leading off first and third.

Gallinari has a lot of work still ahead of him, especially this offseason. He really needs to put some power into his lower body and get more agile.

But as this season winds down, I'm going to watch him differently now, because he is clearly not anything like Andrea Bargnani (a one-dimensional perimeter shooter) or Hedo Turkoglu, who can create with the ball. He loves playing in the post and is showing you can run sets through him on a post-up once in a while. He obviously can snap the net from just about anywhere on the court beyond the arc.

But what really gets him going is defense. He wants to be a stopper. He's got so much to learn still, but the most important thing is the kid wants to learn.

As the conversation ended I turned and said, "So who's it gonna be in Memphis?"

He said, "The last time we played them I covered O.J. Mayo. So O.J. or Rudy Gay. Either one of the two."

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3/12/2010  1:20 AM
BRAVO GALLO! BRAVO!!! I've always said that this kid gets killed for his D, but he actually does a lot of really smart things on D. Physically he's not supposed to be able to stay in front of guys that are smaller and quicker, but he's been far more effective than a lot of people thought he would be. Those stiff legs don't seem to stop him from playing some smart D. Look he's gonna get schooled from time to time being a gangly rookie, but I can see this kid getting better on both ends as he matures physically and gains more confidence and experience. There's that BB IQ man of us talked about and some seem to think he doesn't have. If you watch him on D, he many times is talking and waving his arms directing. You have to pay attention to that. He has frustrated some guys on D, cuz he kept good spacing and used his length. Gallo is part of the reason why we only allow 34.7% from 3.
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3/12/2010  1:27 AM
You have to like his attitude and the pride of the guy, as well as his honesty, but his length makes it difficult for him to handle some players. Hard for him to get his center of gravity low enough and his footwork nimble enough to handle certain players, although there have been many times when he surprised me with how he stayed in front of this guard or that.

He uses a lot of energy guarding guys someone his size does not usually guard- you have to think that his offense is affected.

I though MDA should have let Douglas guard Ginobili.

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3/12/2010  1:29 AM
nixluva wrote:BRAVO GALLO! BRAVO!!! I've always said that this kid gets killed for his D, but he actually does a lot of really smart things on D. Physically he's not supposed to be able to stay in front of guys that are smaller and quicker, but he's been far more effective than a lot of people thought he would be. Those stiff legs don't seem to stop him from playing some smart D. Look he's gonna get schooled from time to time being a gangly rookie, but I can see this kid getting better on both ends as he matures physically and gains more confidence and experience. There's that BB IQ man of us talked about and some seem to think he doesn't have. If you watch him on D, he many times is talking and waving his arms directing. You have to pay attention to that. He has frustrated some guys on D, cuz he kept good spacing and used his length. Gallo is part of the reason why we only allow 34.7% from 3.

He also expends a lot of energy- too much, IMO, when the Knicks are in that zone and he has to be ready to switch down low and cover to jump shooter on his side of the floor.
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3/12/2010  1:32 AM
Paladin55 wrote:You have to like his attitude and the pride of the guy, as well as his honesty, but his length makes it difficult for him to handle some players. Hard for him to get his center of gravity low enough and his footwork nimble enough to handle certain players, although there have been many times when he surprised me with how he stayed in front of this guard or that.

He uses a lot of energy guarding guys someone his size does not usually guard- you have to think that his offense is affected.

I though MDA should have let Douglas guard Ginobili.

agreed... i don't think Gallo has any business trying to check quick active players like Manu... u gotta love his desire to be the best defender he can be, but he is pretty slow moving laterally & still has lapses on defensive rotations... Douglas should always be checking the ballhandler on the other team, he is our best on ball defender & quick enough to recover if he gets picked off a screen... my hope would be for Gallo to bulk up over the summer & work w/Herb or whoever is around to teach our bigs low post defense in training camp on gaining better positioning downlow on D & on ball denial... i think if he can get stronger over the summer, it will serve him well to combine w/his length.

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3/12/2010  1:38 AM
TMS wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:You have to like his attitude and the pride of the guy, as well as his honesty, but his length makes it difficult for him to handle some players. Hard for him to get his center of gravity low enough and his footwork nimble enough to handle certain players, although there have been many times when he surprised me with how he stayed in front of this guard or that.

He uses a lot of energy guarding guys someone his size does not usually guard- you have to think that his offense is affected.

I though MDA should have let Douglas guard Ginobili.

agreed... i don't think Gallo has any business trying to check quick active players like Manu... u gotta love his desire to be the best defender he can be, but he is pretty slow moving laterally & still has lapses on defensive rotations... Douglas should always be checking the ballhandler on the other team, he is our best on ball defender & quick enough to recover if he gets picked off a screen... my hope would be for Gallo to bulk up over the summer & work w/Herb or whoever is around to teach our bigs low post defense in training camp on gaining better positioning downlow on D & on ball denial... i think if he can get stronger over the summer, it will serve him well to combine w/his length.

We really need to bring in Patrick but Mr. Ego wont allow anyone else but his guys on the staff so we can throw that idea out the window.

But think about all the goodwill that can bring for our team besides Patrick's good big man coaching skills. We may finally be able to put an end to what I believe is the Curse of Patrick Ewing.

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3/12/2010  2:02 AM
hopefully he values rebounding too
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3/12/2010  2:08 AM
TMS wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:You have to like his attitude and the pride of the guy, as well as his honesty, but his length makes it difficult for him to handle some players. Hard for him to get his center of gravity low enough and his footwork nimble enough to handle certain players, although there have been many times when he surprised me with how he stayed in front of this guard or that.

He uses a lot of energy guarding guys someone his size does not usually guard- you have to think that his offense is affected.

I though MDA should have let Douglas guard Ginobili.

agreed... i don't think Gallo has any business trying to check quick active players like Manu... u gotta love his desire to be the best defender he can be, but he is pretty slow moving laterally & still has lapses on defensive rotations... Douglas should always be checking the ballhandler on the other team, he is our best on ball defender & quick enough to recover if he gets picked off a screen... my hope would be for Gallo to bulk up over the summer & work w/Herb or whoever is around to teach our bigs low post defense in training camp on gaining better positioning downlow on D & on ball denial... i think if he can get stronger over the summer, it will serve him well to combine w/his length.

I said in my keys that he should not have been on manu, but you have to love the desire and effort. Never do you want to discourage any kid from wanting to be better and take on tough challenges.. It will only make him better.. Just think if more knick players felt the same way about defense gallo and Douglas(who said he also loves playing defense) feel....

great read!

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3/12/2010  3:13 AM
I have to say that Chandler wants to defend too. Those three kids are our best natural defenders. Hill would've one day made our 4th but that's how it goes. Clearly we have to replace what he represented as a prospect. Gallo is too big to guard smalls all game but the challenge will make him better. Rather than bulking up I'd rather see Gallo get leaner and more spry. He needs more wiry strength than bulky strength. He's gonna be more effective being quick n more explosive. That way he'd still be able to guard some on the perimeter but still have some strength to guard in the post.
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3/12/2010  9:25 AM
Great interview. Gallo has the desire to play, both Off and Def.

Gallo is young and growing, and his game is changing to more inside. In Europe he played guard/forward. He also brought the ball upcourt. Now he is bigger and the NBA guards are faster than Europe. I don't know if he can effectively stay with the quicker guards. But I like that he studies the opponents like Ginobili and plans out how to play them.

I also like his philosophy of pressing the PG.

We both agreed that teams don't put enough pressure on the point guard as he brings the ball up the floor, either. There should be pressure from three-quarter court and up. By the third quarter, the point guard is so exhaused by the defense his play will start to deteriorate. Or the team will adjust and have him give up the ball sooner, which takes the team out of their comfort zone.

I believe Toney Douglas can be extremely effective in this kind of a role. I always thought Nate Robinson could do it, too. Of course it does wear out the defender some, which will impact his performance on offense. But that's why it's always best to have a backup PG to give your starter rest.

Another reason to use a 9 man rotation. Use your resources wisely. We have a young player (Douglas) who loves playing defense, was defensive player of the year in the ACC last year, was the fastest rookie is the tryout camps, has a great attitude, works hard, and we sit him on the bench all year. He could have gotten 10 to 15 min a game to tire out the opposing PG. And that keeps our PG (Duhon for the first 50 games) more fresh.
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3/12/2010  10:53 AM
Gallo is a tweener to light in the pants to defend down low and too slow to defend the quicker forwards. I'm sure his heart is in the right place but physically he's very limited.
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3/12/2010  11:30 AM
bitty41 wrote:Gallo is a tweener to light in the pants to defend down low and too slow to defend the quicker forwards. I'm sure his heart is in the right place but physically he's very limited.
light in the pants? What have you been smokin? They dont call him rooster for nothing!

He's athletic enough to be a good defender. Maybe not a lock down guy but if he's dedicated to learning technique and studying his opponents moves and tendancies he will be solid. Also those physical issues will translate into mismatches on the other end. He can take bigger goes out to the perimeter and score easily on the smaller guys down low. He's shown his ability to do this. The HOPE is that he's able to do it on a nightly basis. This is really what will dictate what kind of player he becomes in this league. Right now he's a young inconsistant guy. He shows more than flashes, he's certainly a rotation guy but has a long way to go. He's got to be good everynight. Seems like he's got the work ethic to make that happen. Time will tell.

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3/12/2010  12:34 PM
He has a low IQ for a defender, I'm a LITTLE impress by his willingness to guard the teams best player, but he's not doing a great job, and he's left out there to many times with no help making him look ridiculous at times, or just plain ol incompetent.
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3/12/2010  12:38 PM
fishmike wrote:
bitty41 wrote:Gallo is a tweener to light in the pants to defend down low and too slow to defend the quicker forwards. I'm sure his heart is in the right place but physically he's very limited.
light in the pants? What have you been smokin? They dont call him rooster for nothing!

He's athletic enough to be a good defender. Maybe not a lock down guy but if he's dedicated to learning technique and studying his opponents moves and tendancies he will be solid. Also those physical issues will translate into mismatches on the other end. He can take bigger goes out to the perimeter and score easily on the smaller guys down low. He's shown his ability to do this. The HOPE is that he's able to do it on a nightly basis. This is really what will dictate what kind of player he becomes in this league. Right now he's a young inconsistant guy. He shows more than flashes, he's certainly a rotation guy but has a long way to go. He's got to be good everynight. Seems like he's got the work ethic to make that happen. Time will tell.

i think you're right but until there is a philosophy or culture around playing defense as a team, you will see the same flashes from gallo. the kid can only do so much. he needs good defensive coaching to get better. something the knicks dont have today.

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3/12/2010  12:52 PM
knicks1248 wrote:He has a low IQ for a defender, I'm a LITTLE impress by his willingness to guard the teams best player, but he's not doing a great job, and he's left out there to many times with no help making him look ridiculous at times, or just plain ol incompetent.
sure... he doesnt even have a whole season under his belt yet. I remember when Spree first got here he blew so many assignments and left guys open all the time. Not rotating right, etc. Eventually they got him where he needed to be. Agree 100% we need a solid defensive guy in here. Either that or a really saavy player that can orchestrate... kinda like how Battier freelances for the Rockets
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3/12/2010  2:33 PM
nixluva wrote:I have to say that Chandler wants to defend too. Those three kids are our best natural defenders. Hill would've one day made our 4th but that's how it goes. Clearly we have to replace what he represented as a prospect. Gallo is too big to guard smalls all game but the challenge will make him better. Rather than bulking up I'd rather see Gallo get leaner and more spry. He needs more wiry strength than bulky strength. He's gonna be more effective being quick n more explosive. That way he'd still be able to guard some on the perimeter but still have some strength to guard in the post.

didn't mean to forget chandler.. I agree.. and I also agree that he needs to get lean strong and not bulky strong... good point..

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3/12/2010  2:57 PM
bitty41 wrote:Gallo is a tweener to light in the pants to defend down low and too slow to defend the quicker forwards. I'm sure his heart is in the right place but physically he's very limited.

Fishmike and Paladin to the rescue in 3.2.1 oh hmm

He will hopefully get better in all he does as long as is coaching him

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3/12/2010  3:12 PM
fishmike wrote:
bitty41 wrote:Gallo is a tweener to light in the pants to defend down low and too slow to defend the quicker forwards. I'm sure his heart is in the right place but physically he's very limited.
light in the pants? What have you been smokin? They dont call him rooster for nothing!!!

I keep waiting for the NY Post backpage headline that says:

The Cock Plays Big "D"

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3/12/2010  3:48 PM
bitty41 wrote:Gallo is a tweener to light in the pants to defend down low and too slow to defend the quicker forwards. I'm sure his heart is in the right place but physically he's very limited.

Gallo's back is too fragile to defend down low and his legs are too stiff to defend the quicker forwards. I'm sure his heart is in the right place but physically he's very limited.

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3/12/2010  4:27 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
bitty41 wrote:Gallo is a tweener to light in the pants to defend down low and too slow to defend the quicker forwards. I'm sure his heart is in the right place but physically he's very limited.

Gallo's back is too fragile to defend down low and his legs are too stiff to defend the quicker forwards. I'm sure his heart is in the right place but physically he's very limited.

can you produce a chart on this stuff or some kind of equation to prove your point?

Gallo wants to be a great defender

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