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Unless we can come up with something better, I think Marcus Williams will be our PG next year
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Finestrg
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3/11/2010  11:39 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/11/2010  12:02 PM
Unless Memphis just blows him out of the water with a contract offer to stay (which is unlikely), I think he'll be our PG next year. Just look at the situation -- The Knick obviously like him, they had a trade in place to acquire this guy for Nate until Nate nixed the deal. And I don't think they've forgotten about him, not by longshot...I'm glad Donnie & Mike had interest, there's definitely a lot to like here. He's a well-put-together 6'3" 205 lbs, only 24 years old (a young 24 too - DOB 12/1985), a very good passer that knows exactly how to deliver the ball & get everyone involved, doesn't appear overly quick at first glance but he's quick enough when he needs to be, and even though his offensive numbers don't look too good in the league so far as far a shooting percentages and what not (which can easily look skewed when you don't get enough playing time, which he hasn't - not to mention that I kinda like that they're not too high - he and his agent won't be able to use his limited numbers as a negotiating tactic & that should help us when & if we decide to offer him a contract -- the proof isn't there but I think he's a much better player than his numbers indicate anyway), I think that he's a capable offensive player when the situation dictates -- he can finish well at the rim with a strong left hand, has a fine looking jumpshot and he can go get his own offense when situations break down (a neccessity as far as I'm concerned - I don't care for a PG who can't score the ball himself when need be. Williams can). Plays very poised & under control too, never appears to panic out there - anytime I've ever watched this kid play any kind of extended minutes, even going back to his days at U-Conn, he's always looked very in control of his team. Not a star defensively, but who exactly is now a days at the point? His above average, pure PG skills far outweigh any perceived negatives in my opinion..

Out of some of the cost effective FA PGs that'll be out there that we may be thinking about (CJ Watson, our own Sergio Rodriguez, etc..), Williams may be the best buy. Watson's putting up good numbers in semi-limited minutes this year for GS and is gonna look to get paid, I like Sergio (I'd espcially like him if we had some top offensive players here and guys that can get out and run -- that's when you'll see Sergio Rodriguez at his best) but not for almost $3 million --- I acually think Marcus Williams is the most realistic target for us given our budget constraints. Pound for pound, I actually think he's a better player than Rodriguez, and he should come for about half the money, probably even less. Saw a replay of the Memphis/Celtics game from last night --- Memphis was all over Boston the whole game and they didn't lose a beat when Williams came in for Conley and ran that team to perfection playing basically the entire 2nd half in the blowout win. The Celtics never got themselves back in that game...Provided we can't upgrade the point through either FA or the draft, Marcus Williams backed up by Toney Douglas wouldn't be terrible fellas. I think that'd be an inexpensive, well-balanced PG tandem - two young guys that are more than serviceable right now with room to improve & get even better. And for us, the price is right..Gun to my head, I think Marcus Williams will be in a Knicks uniform next year. He just makes too much sense for us..

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3/11/2010  11:47 AM
Let's hope not cause Marcus Williams stinks.
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3/11/2010  11:49 AM
iSergio wrote:Let's hope not cause Marcus Williams stinks.

let's see if iMarcus agrees.

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3/11/2010  11:49 AM
marv - you swallow the bitter pill this morning? you on a roll son!
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3/11/2010  11:49 AM
Marv wrote:
iSergio wrote:Let's hope not cause Marcus Williams stinks.

let's see if iMarcus agrees.

Well I don't agree.

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3/11/2010  11:53 AM
jimimou wrote:marv - you swallow the bitter pill this morning? you on a roll son!

obm's been texting me lines

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3/11/2010  12:06 PM
Sergio has had a better season. I don't know how Marcus looked in that game you saw Finestrg but from going over his game log he hasn't been as good as Sergio.
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3/11/2010  12:28 PM
u can probably draft a PG that's better than him in the 2nd round this year... i wouldn't invest dollars on guys like Sergio or M Will to be our backup PG... i'd sooner spend the dollars for a legitimate starting PG & use our 2nd round pick to draft an understudy, or continue to develop Toney Douglas in that role.
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3/11/2010  1:04 PM
They need to focus on that positon more then anything, and Marcus sucks, sergio to fast for his on good, CJ is gonna be a career back up....All roads she point to raymond felton
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3/11/2010  1:15 PM
When I saw the title, I thought BRIGGS started this thread. Honestly, anything would be an improvement on Duhon, so I am all for signing anyone that will convince MDA and Walsh to cut ties with Duhon this summer. I don't want him as our backup PG at all. As for Williams himself, he is a good passer and decent scorer, but he plays no defense and from what I have seen, he is not really a leader. I don't think we need him. I agree with TMS, we can probably find someone just as good in the second round.
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3/11/2010  2:02 PM
the guy cut by Jersey who's unable to get any real pt with his current team?

I was shocked that Jersey benched and then just cut him. Especially after all the media drama about us drafting Balkman over him. He must be either a bust or the 2nd coming of JR Rider

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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3/11/2010  2:34 PM
TMS wrote:u can probably draft a PG that's better than him in the 2nd round this year... i wouldn't invest dollars on guys like Sergio or M Will to be our backup PG... i'd sooner spend the dollars for a legitimate starting PG & use our 2nd round pick to draft an understudy, or continue to develop Toney Douglas in that role.

Because of the cost factor I think DW is probably really looking at those 2nd rd. draft picks for a PG. It just makes sense, since there probably isn't that much difference between what those guys can do and the guys who are on benches around the league like Marcus & Sergio etc. DW might also renounce Sergio but then sign him to a lesser deal. I doubt he'll have many other options. Not knowing the rules on such things I believe he could do that. If not I believe he's definitely going to be looking for help thru those draft picks.

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3/11/2010  2:36 PM
He's got a lot of talent, but its just never come together at all for him. There's no reason he shouldnt be at least a starter in the league.

Must be lazy or a drug problem.

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3/11/2010  2:43 PM

LEts have some HOPE that MDA has Identified his next point and can yield that magic on the right guy with the same formula that created the one called "NASH" and became an MVP.

If its Marcus, so be it.

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3/11/2010  5:58 PM
Nalod wrote:
LEts have some HOPE that MDA has Identified his next point and can yield that magic on the right guy with the same formula that created the one called "NASH" and became an MVP.

If its Marcus, so be it.

I think Nash created 'DANTONI' and SSOL. I don't think D'Antoni is a winner again in the NBA.
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3/11/2010  7:51 PM
The Knicks could take a chance on Marcus. Just make sure to have plenty of these:

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3/12/2010  12:14 AM
TD only works at all on this team if we have an uber-wing in Wade/LeBron/Johnson.
If not, then we need the purest of points and I'd rather draft one than get one of the guys mentioned.
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3/12/2010  12:19 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
LEts have some HOPE that MDA has Identified his next point and can yield that magic on the right guy with the same formula that created the one called "NASH" and became an MVP.

If its Marcus, so be it.

I think Nash created 'DANTONI' and SSOL. I don't think D'Antoni is a winner again in the NBA.

So how come the Mavs didn't chose to keep this MVP level PG if Nash was already playing at that level and made MDA? The truth is that the player needed the coach and the coach needed the player. That's why MDA lobbied for Nash in the 1st place. He knew what he could do with a player like that in his system. Go read how Nash feels about what MDA did for him if you don't believe it. In fact Nash begged for them to go back to the MDA system and they've had a good season, tho not at the same level as when MDA was there.

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3/12/2010  1:16 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:TD only works at all on this team if we have an uber-wing in Wade/LeBron/Johnson.
If not, then we need the purest of points and I'd rather draft one than get one of the guys mentioned.

if we don't get an uber wing to run the offense this summer, we will need to sign a bonafide starting PG who won't need to be groomed to take over the offense... this team will be in win now mode next year no matter what... we can't phuck around for another year & let it go to waste trying to groom a buncha guys to learn a system after 3 years under the same damn head coach... i wanna see some results next year w/o fail, otherwise both Donnie & MDA need to get the boot.

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3/12/2010  2:54 AM
TMS wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:TD only works at all on this team if we have an uber-wing in Wade/LeBron/Johnson.
If not, then we need the purest of points and I'd rather draft one than get one of the guys mentioned.

if we don't get an uber wing to run the offense this summer, we will need to sign a bonafide starting PG who won't need to be groomed to take over the offense... this team will be in win now mode next year no matter what... we can't phuck around for another year & let it go to waste trying to groom a buncha guys to learn a system after 3 years under the same damn head coach... i wanna see some results next year w/o fail, otherwise both Donnie & MDA need to get the boot.

I'd prefer to axe one in that scenario just because (1) I think the lack of continuity has hurt this team and (2) I'd prefer James Dolan not have complete control of the franchise's direction

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Unless we can come up with something better, I think Marcus Williams will be our PG next year

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