I know I know Mitch Lawrence nba guy hates the knicks

But he brings up valid points in his article. Why come here ? MDA has really screwed up this 2010 season which was better in
december when knicks played some D but I reckon' that style too boring for MDA and his staff so they tinkered & lost.

Walsh cant be happy with the folks coaching his team, Walsh can blame himself all he wants
He got us under $$ cap and did an impossible job.

Mitch Lawrence: "Why come to Knicks ? "
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2010/03/07/2010-03-07_to_free_agents_heres_worst_sign_yet.html?r=sports%2Fbasketball%2Fknicks&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nydnrss%2Fsports%2Fbasketball%2Fknicks+%28Sports%2FBasketball%2FKnicks%29

the fact that this organization has failed to develop any of its young talent to the point where they are the type of players that raise the level of other players around them will be more of a factor weighing in on these decisions... the fact that this organization has failed to develop any leaders & nothing has changed in the mindset of the players will be a heavy factor as well... plus the fact that the Knicks have failed to hold onto their future assets to give the franchise a means to improve through the draft in coming years won't help matters either... the Knicks have failed to make this an attractive destination for other players to want to come to, regardless of what Tracy McGrady wants to say about this being the mecca of basketball & the world's biggest stage... if other FA's want to come to NY at this point, it will be because of the money, nothing more... no one's coming to the Knicks to be part of a winner when they can't get their act together.

However as far as Misterearl .. I do not usually care for Mitch Lawrence writings on knicks
And TMS mentions NY has failed to develop not only young talent or draftees but find a leader (agree)

But I do agree with the writer FAs no longer consider the Knicks revelant for much past even next season
That bugs me

I cant say the writer is wrong. TMS is also right some studs may only want NY for the $$$ if winning isnt as important now
as it should be.

All in all MDA hasnt impressed me. I maintain his SUN teams with all the wins never had to go and win games on D until
playoffs when they were exposed.

Why ? hasnt MDA surrounded himself with defender type coaches as assistants ?
I dont get a warm feeling he things big men, big centers and defense is his type of scheme in his big picture of improving NY

He will wait to Walsh if he last gets those things ironed out. But if coach aint on with DEFENSE 1st what's the point ?
MDA may as well go sooner than later. I dont like Coaches whom cant give me idea they want to play D.

Its like this club has to have automatic Know it all 2 way defense players come in here whom are experts in D
If not dont count on D'Antoni to school them on that.

I dont know about this coach
he yikes at Nate Robinson and has everything to do with getting E.House (i like) whom he rather have (ex SUN) than a VET PG
or some PG to lead.

He is responsible for Chris Duhon being the starter and #1 guard PG at camp time
MDA needs to take hit for that. PG and Defense.

We all do not have to spell out Knicks werent going anywhere but at least dont
try to fool us fans. MDA could care less at the season outset for winning games.

I dont mind tanking or being losers if we have DRAFT picks June 2010. But we got Squat, zippo !
so why not play? We're laying down and getting embarrassed.

Dont care what they say about Larry Brown 23win season , he'd be cussing out this bunch and perhaps is reason LBrown got 1 yr
and fired.

I dont care for MDA attitude and smiles like its ok to get butt kickings by weak NBA teams better than NY
Cause it AINT ok for me. I dont like it, it never felt so bad to be embarrassed and laughed at when you cant
get your team energized and spirited to play but you sure can alienate guys and kick them out of NY cause you got
an ideal Coaches contract $$$ which has you employed safefly for a Stupid Knicks organization whom tries to please
fans but fails miserably with the basics.

Drafts
Development few young players
PG,
Rebounding & Defense.

This is sad. If we get to July 1 and by end of summer Knicks got no one.
Same for next season creating all this cap $$$ and not getting anyone on elite level interested in coming here.
Tell me how's MDA going to help out on that ? recruiting whom ? an aged Steve Nash in 2011

DJMUSIC wrote:I dont mind tanking or being losers if we have DRAFT picks June 2010. But we got Squat, zippo !
so why not play? We're laying down and getting embarrassed.

Dont care what they say about Larry Brown 23win season , he'd be cussing out this bunch and perhaps is reason LBrown got 1 yr
and fired.

I dont care for MDA attitude and smiles like its ok to get butt kickings by weak NBA teams better than NY
Cause it AINT ok for me. I dont like it, it never felt so bad to be embarrassed and laughed at when you cant
get your team energized and spirited to play but you sure can alienate guys and kick them out of NY cause you got
an ideal Coaches contract $$$ which has you employed safefly for a Stupid Knicks organization whom tries to please
fans but fails miserably with the basics.

Drafts
Development few young players
PG,
Rebounding & Defense.

This is sad. If we get to July 1 and by end of summer Knicks got no one.
Same for next season creating all this cap $$$ and not getting anyone on elite level interested in coming here.
Tell me how's MDA going to help out on that ? recruiting whom ? an aged Steve Nash in 2011

seriously, we can't even get the damn basics down in NY on how to build a team... we don't draft correctly, we don't develop the kids we draft, we don't breed a winning mentality, we don't preach defense... & management expects to contend for championships in the coming years??? seriously it's gotta make u laugh to keep u from crying.

TMS wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:I dont mind tanking or being losers if we have DRAFT picks June 2010. But we got Squat, zippo !
so why not play? We're laying down and getting embarrassed.

Dont care what they say about Larry Brown 23win season , he'd be cussing out this bunch and perhaps is reason LBrown got 1 yr
and fired.

I dont care for MDA attitude and smiles like its ok to get butt kickings by weak NBA teams better than NY
Cause it AINT ok for me. I dont like it, it never felt so bad to be embarrassed and laughed at when you cant
get your team energized and spirited to play but you sure can alienate guys and kick them out of NY cause you got
an ideal Coaches contract $$$ which has you employed safefly for a Stupid Knicks organization whom tries to please
fans but fails miserably with the basics.

Drafts
Development few young players
PG,
Rebounding & Defense.

This is sad. If we get to July 1 and by end of summer Knicks got no one.
Same for next season creating all this cap $$$ and not getting anyone on elite level interested in coming here.
Tell me how's MDA going to help out on that ? recruiting whom ? an aged Steve Nash in 2011

seriously, we can't even get the damn basics down in NY on how to build a team... we don't draft correctly, we don't develop the kids we draft, we don't breed a winning mentality, we don't preach defense... & management expects to contend for championships in the coming years??? seriously it's gotta make u laugh to keep u from crying.

No matter who is GM (Layden/Zeke/Walsh) the draft is treated as a joke. I see teams all around league trying to collect draft picks, they trade 1st rounders away with no regard. Proper way to rebuild is with young guys,picks and cap space. What young guys do knicks have that can be legit starters on 50+ win teams? Maybe Gallo but i'm not sold on him yet. Lee will be gone this summer and Chandler is not a difference maker. Draft picks traded or swapped for lower picks. Knicks have the cap space. So 1 for 3. I hate to say it but i think Nets have done better job at rebuilding. They won't get Lebron,Bosh or Wade but they at least have a legit center,crap load of picks the next 3 years,most likely #1 pick or top 3 and a guy in Devin Harris who's young with great contract to trade.

TMS wrote:no longer an MDA supporter at this point, but this team has been pathetically bad for the past 5 years... that single loss to the Nets isn't going to be the tipping point in a FA's mind whether or not to come here... the fact that we haven't been able to give any FA a valid reason to want to come play here in the past 5 years other than attaining cap space is what will drive FA's away, not any single loss under MDA... this team has been getting blown out by inferior teams well before MDA ever got here.

the fact that this organization has failed to develop any of its young talent to the point where they are the type of players that raise the level of other players around them will be more of a factor weighing in on these decisions... the fact that this organization has failed to develop any leaders & nothing has changed in the mindset of the players will be a heavy factor as well... plus the fact that the Knicks have failed to hold onto their future assets to give the franchise a means to improve through the draft in coming years won't help matters either... the Knicks have failed to make this an attractive destination for other players to want to come to, regardless of what Tracy McGrady wants to say about this being the mecca of basketball & the world's biggest stage... if other FA's want to come to NY at this point, it will be because of the money, nothing more... no one's coming to the Knicks to be part of a winner when they can't get their act together.

Yep. MDA and Walsh have done a piss poor job over the past two years. Who have they developed? I mean, Chandler was developing into a good player before they arrived and they certainly have not turned him into a superstar. Gallo still seems to be playing in his rookie season. We failed to give Douglas or Hill a chance. We really have not developed anyone, which gives me little hope for guys like Sergio and Bill Walker, who both seem to have decent potential. The bottomline is that this team does not have the assets needed to convince Lebron or Bosh to come here and think they are going to win. I just don't see it. If it is an issue of endorsements, Lebron or Bosh could sign with NJ and be in the same market area but also have a stronger core team. So why again are they coming to the Knicks. And if they are not coming to the Knicks, why did we just give up Hill (who I thought had a chance to play his way into a starting center-role for us next year) and essentially two lottery picks. It is just incredible. Even IT managed to actually get a player when he made his bonehead trades. The players turned out to be garbage, but at least we got something. The only thing Walsh has done is created a miniscule chance of signing Lebron and Bosh and if that does not happen, we will be a terrible team for the next two-three years.

If you are bringing in 2 stars together, it is a complete team changer, it does not matter what happened the year before. Good players are competitive, and they know this, they like the idea of coming in with another stud and launching a winner... it is very enticing.

A coach cannot play for his players, the Knicks are really not a complete enough team to compete right now.

As for developing guys, I think that's a bit hard to say. Gallo and Chan don't suck and they both actually made some strides this year. If you go back to how they looked at the very start of the year. Now the NBA season is long and when there's really no leader and there's turnover, guys aren't going to look as good as they should. They'll play tentative. The more stable our team situation is the better both Gallo N Chan will look. I guarantee that if they're playing with Lebron they'd all of a sudden look a lot better!!!

Cosmic wrote:NY signs multiple free agents and there are no blowouts. What's so hard to understand?

So if we add Bosh and LeBron we're still going to lose by 50 and only win 25 games?

Anyone truly believe that?

Please.... take the stars off their present teams and they are as bad as the present Knicks.

I guess crying is the new thing to do now that the season is over. Hey, weather is getting nice, go outside and stop whining.

Papabear Says

MDA's run and gun and pot luck 3's ain't Knicks kind of baskettball. The sooner MDA is gone and bring in a Knicks blue blood.

colorfl1 wrote:The Celtics were horrid before they signed KG and Allen. Everyone said Doc Rivers was a terrible coach too... it is a very similar scenario.

If you are bringing in 2 stars together, it is a complete team changer, it does not matter what happened the year before. Good players are competitive, and they know this, they like the idea of coming in with another stud and launching a winner... it is very enticing.

A coach cannot play for his players, the Knicks are really not a complete enough team to compete right now.

Papabear Says

Yes but Boston did have some kind of defense

Papabear wrote:

Cosmic wrote:NY signs multiple free agents and there are no blowouts. What's so hard to understand?

So if we add Bosh and LeBron we're still going to lose by 50 and only win 25 games?

Anyone truly believe that?

Please.... take the stars off their present teams and they are as bad as the present Knicks.

I guess crying is the new thing to do now that the season is over. Hey, weather is getting nice, go outside and stop whining.

Papabear Says

MDA's run and gun and pot luck 3's ain't Knicks kind of baskettball. The sooner MDA is gone and bring in a Knicks blue blood.

Not going to say I enjoy Mike's system after watching it for 2 years - but - if Walsh gets him his players - we'll be a good team.

Kind of have to sit back and let them do their job this summer before we come down on them.