Darren Collison is the real deal

This would allow NO to completely revamp and rebuild

This would give the Knicks the PG star and still retain over 30/31mm in cap

Just to throw it out there--I think i would prefer to keep Gallo and Chandler myself

BRIGGS wrote:and pick 35 for Chris Paul and Mo Pete

Darren Collison is the real deal

This would allow NO to completely revamp and rebuild

This would give the Knicks the PG star and still retain over 30/31mm in cap

Just to throw it out there--I think i would prefer to keep Gallo and Chandler myself

That's the only part I could endorse in this idea. CP3 is badly injured and who is he gonna come here to play with? We would be trading away the last vestiges of our team. No thank you.

We should focus on Bosh as our plan B guy. We need to keep Chandler and Gallo. If we miss on Lebron, we can resign Lee and hope that once he has his long-term deal he will be less concerned with padding his stats and figure out how to sacrifice for the team on defense. I actually believe in him and think he will stop the stat-padding once he is locked in. I also think he is very smart and can figure out how to play defense, especially if we bring in Oak as a mentor. Aren't they about the same size?

fishmike wrote:CP3 under MDA > Nash. Whats that saying?

If I can keep Chandler I would do it

picks 35/40 and 2011 #1 Gallinari Douglas Curry

loweyecue wrote:I think you guys undervalue Chandler. All he needs is some consistency, dude can ball.

Chandler doesn't have this much value the NBA... our best asset right now is D Lee in a sign & trade... Wilson is a nice young player & i like him a lot but u'r not getting elite talent like CP3 for the assets we have to offer... Bosh, Amare perhaps since they are pending FA's anyway & their teams won't want to lose them for nothing... u could probably work out some kind of sign & trade using Lee & a combination of Gallo, Wilson, Toney Douglas &/or our 2nd round picks.

oohah wrote:

holfresh wrote:Does Collison make people around him better or is he just another guy who likes to hold the ball...No one is trading CP3...

Collison does make players around him better. He is not a ball-stopper. I've watched this kid play quite a bit, he is a very good prospect. He can score, pass, he plays defense and he is clutch.

Is Collison as good as Chris Paul? No, but who knows what the Hornets might do and they need to save money and they also need upgrade talent at other positions simultaneously. Collison is a very capable replacement at point guard.

How come the Knicks never grab a steal in the late first round like Darren Collison or Rajon Rondo?

But no way the trade BRIGGS came up with will happen. Curry Gallinari and Chandler make up the core of a bad team. No way do they trade a franchise player for that.

oohah

I saw him last night...He held the ball so long it was disruptive..he had two assist, 30 pts...But checking his stats I see 14/15 assist nights...I'm not sure i want my point guard taking 20 shots a game thought...

holfresh wrote:
I saw him last night...He held the ball so long it was disruptive..he had two assist, 30 pts...But checking his stats I see 14/15 assist nights...I'm not sure i want my point guard taking 20 shots a game thought...

I didn't watch the game, but last night Marcus Thornton got hurt and think that somebody needed to score. I think his large point totals are more a funtion of lack of scorers on New Orleans than being a chucker.

But either way this kid Collison is good. Also Marcus Thornton, a second round steal. the Knicks never draft a steal.

oohah

oohah wrote:

holfresh wrote:
I saw him last night...He held the ball so long it was disruptive..he had two assist, 30 pts...But checking his stats I see 14/15 assist nights...I'm not sure i want my point guard taking 20 shots a game thought...

I didn't watch the game, but last night Marcus Thornton got hurt and think that somebody needed to score. I think his large point totals are more a funtion of lack of scorers on New Orleans than being a chucker.

But either way this kid Collison is good. Also Marcus Thornton, a second round steal. the Knicks never draft a steal.

oohah

David Lee at #30 was a steal... Trevor Ariza at #43 was also a steal but this organization gave up on him way too early... comparison wise i think u can easily say D Lee was as good of a steal as Collison & same for Ariza in comparison to Thornton.

TMS wrote:
David Lee at #30 was a steal... Trevor Ariza at #43 was also a steal but this organization gave up on him way too early... comparison wise i think u can easily say D Lee was as good of a steal as Collison & same for Ariza in comparison to Thornton.

You're right. For that matter Nate Robinson was a steal at #23(?). I agree that the problem is the Knicks refuse to work with what they have and develop it.

If the Knicks had simply kept on developing youth like they were doing going into the LB season, we would have seen the playoffs by now.

However, I disagree with Lee being the equivalent of Darren Collison steal-wise. This kid has serious skills to step in for Paul the way he has as a rookie and he has huge gonads the way he performs when the game counts. Lee could not have jumped in and played at a star level in his first couple of seasons.

And if you watch this Thornton kid play I think you'll see that he has the ability to be a very good scorer in the NBA for while...as long as he can stop falling on his neck-bone.

oohah