Lee pointed to his statistics -- 15 defensive rebounds, for one -- and said "I do all I can out there . . . At 6-9 playing center, I do the best I can to contest shots down there. I can't be there for every shot. I do my best and I guess that's all I can do at 6-9."

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

Crying the "poor me I'm 6'9 excuse" and pointing to his padded stats. I have never seen a worse defender in my life. Honestly. Eddy Curry is better than Lee. At least Curry will throw a hard foul here and there. Lee is pathetic on the defensive end.

I asked Lee if he ever considered putting a stop to the green line down the lane by offering up a hard foul early in a game to send somewhat of a message -- not only to the opponent but to his own teammates who are letting people by.

"I guess one of us could do that," he said. "You got a Charles Oakley think going there or something? I don't know what to say to that. Then we get two or three fouls on me and then we have 6-7 playing the five, and they continue driving the ball.

That's not the reason you don't foul you fool. (BTW LOL @ him using this an excuses when he gets like 2 fouls the whole game tonight) You just don't want to foul out and not be able to pad your stats some more. Those stats gotta look sexy, you know what I mean? 23 pts, 15 rebounds. Superstar money for Big Dave baby!

Childs2Dudley wrote:Another loser from the Isiah Thomas Era who blames everyone but himself. Look at this guy:

Lee pointed to his statistics -- 15 defensive rebounds, for one -- and said "I do all I can out there . . . At 6-9 playing center, I do the best I can to contest shots down there. I can't be there for every shot. I do my best and I guess that's all I can do at 6-9."

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

Crying the "poor me I'm 6'9 excuse" and pointing to his padded stats. I have never seen a worse defender in my life. Honestly. Eddy Curry is better than Lee. At least Curry will throw a hard foul here and there. Lee is pathetic on the defensive end.

I asked Lee if he ever considered putting a stop to the green line down the lane by offering up a hard foul early in a game to send somewhat of a message -- not only to the opponent but to his own teammates who are letting people by.

"I guess one of us could do that," he said. "You got a Charles Oakley think going there or something? I don't know what to say to that. Then we get two or three fouls on me and then we have 6-7 playing the five, and they continue driving the ball.

That's not the reason you don't foul you fool. (BTW LOL @ him using this an excuses when he gets like 2 fouls the whole game tonight) You just don't want to foul out and not be able to pad your stats some more. Those stats gotta look sexy, you know what I mean? 23 pts, 15 rebounds. Superstar money for Big Dave baby!

Well you have Gallinari playing PF and grabs 1 rebound. We don't play 2 bigs and we live D Lee overwhelmed. It's so stupid--get rid of David lee and we would be much much worse. What we need to do is get a guy who can play next to him. Perhaps Chris Bosh perhaps Amare Stoudemire maybe tyrus Thomas
but I would not be quick on the draw to get rid of Lee. Unless something funky happens--I want Lee back at 6 yrs 60mm

In your world Gallinari played better than Lee tonight right?

Childs2Dudley wrote:Al Horford plays center for his team and plays much better defense. I haven't seen Al Horford crying too much about playing center for his size. You know how tall Horford is? 6'10 and 246 lbs. Lee is listed at 6'9, 250 lbs.

Yeah because he has Josh Smith playing next to him avg 9 reb and +2 blocks. We have Gallinari who had no rebounds in 3 Qs against Clev the other night and 1 rebound in 40 tonight.

Childs2Dudley wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:Al Horford plays center for his team and plays much better defense. I haven't seen Al Horford crying too much about playing center for his size. You know how tall Horford is? 6'10 and 246 lbs. Lee is listed at 6'9, 250 lbs.

Yeah because he has Josh Smith playing next to him avg 9 reb and +2 blocks. We have Gallinari who had no rebounds in 3 Qs against Clev the other night and 1 rebound in 40 tonight.

But what does that have to do with doing simple freeking things? You need a defensive guy next to you for what? To cover for your awful defense? Lee would still be awful on defense even with someone like Josh Smith. It's not in his DNA to play defense. He doesn't contest shots, he doesn't know how to play the passing lanes, he is invisible in the paint and he rarely boxes out. David Lee may be "impressive" on offense but he is arguably the worst defender in the NBA.

If you traded Horford for Lee right now, I guarantee you Horford would at least be protecting the paint better than Lee is. Lee doesn't have that desire other than making his stats look good, hence the reason he points to them when someone questions his defense.

If we had Josh Smith--we would probably play much better D and you would never say a word. 1 player can change differential--especially an impact frontcourt player like Josh Smith

AI wrote:david lee is so right we act like we are the lakers, the spurs the last decade that we are an elite team where we only accepts high standards and a player like lee is unacceptable. LEE has been our best player the last decade. lets just shut up as fans and hopefully lebron comes here next year because if he doesnt come just rewind the last decade because that is how the next is going to look like.

It's not David Lee's fault that NY cant put another big next to him. Funny how people are breaking them on David Lee

Just breaking down the game for one minute

David Lee had more rebounds than the next 4 highest totals by Knicks players *combined*
David Lee's direct competitor from the other team went 4-15 for 9 points David went 9-15 with 23 points
David Lee had 2 blocks the rest of the team 1

Give me 5 players who shoot 56% and I will win the NBA championship

the guy is avg 20+ 12 reb 3.5 assist It's not David Lee's fault-- go up and down the roster--other than Chandler--who has been consistent for the most part--we have lived with inconsistent players.

D Lee is part of the solution--not part of the problem.
Hes the best player on the team and second place isnt close.

's offense is built on the given that you make your open shots. D-Lee is the ONLY guy who has consistently made his the ENTIRE season. And he gets boards. I mean I'm still amazed at the shots he sticks... 7 feet out? = money. Just shy of the 3 point line? = money. 23 & 18 tonight? Whine, whine, whine from you lot. He's not the cornerstone of a franchise. But he's a really good f**kin' player.

Yet he has improved. He's gone from roving solo just looking for a board to realizing he has to keep a hand on his man no matter what is going on. So, it's an improvement, but we'd hope some day he can see a player rolling to the hoop and step in and contest the shot. But again I don't think he can or will. It's clearly a mental issue. He just can't see what is going on and react.

Shame, for, that is now the lone reason why he isn't a star player. Help defense. You help. You see an opponent going to the rim and you leave your man to contest that player. Lee can't and won't do it. Just stands there and watches. He's as useful in those instances as you or I watching on TV.

SupremeCommander wrote:I would trade 20 David Lees for one Al Horford

Also big +1 on the entire OP. Losers make excuses.