RonRon wrote:if we fail on lebron, wade, bosh, im skeptical on amare

1)we can tank all the way even though it makes the TMAC trade retarded and try to go for the 1st pick =T
2)resgin tmac 1 year deal that he cant refuse and add fair contract players and wait till EDDY CURRY expires and wait till 2011

question is do we resign Lee, Walker, Rod, and if so, at what prices?

if we let EVERYONE WALK, and tank next year, we will have 3 max contracts? 2011? with gallo/chandler? if we get 1st pick in overall draft, maybe that isnt too bad?
i know this does not justify DW's moves but im still trying to be positive....

however, if we really sign joe johnson to max contract, I really give up on this franchise ive tried to stay positive for these horrible years.

camby
lee or bosh
gallo/chandler
tmac
joe johnson

doesnt sound too bad on paper, its at best a mediocre playoff team that would be eventually on its last legs/knees.....

i would like to hear some opinions and realistic options and not just plain bashing.
YEAH i think DW F$#ed up if we dont sign 2 legit max players but it isnt exactly the end exactly.

i dont want to hear anymore JJ's on this team. say no to JJ3, our cap would be hurt too much for too many years for a player his caliber and age.

well, we can't tank because the number one pick will go to utah so thats not good. i agree with the trades and bullet we bit this past month, we have to stick with plan a and b. plan c, signing amare, joe johnson or gay, is not good enough because of the amount of assets we gave up. it isnt going to hold water for the fans who suffered for a decade of garbage b ball. they need a big splash next year and the top three will provide that. i am not going to say that plan a or b will happen. as a matter of fact, with each passing day, i start having more doubts. however, walsh is a shrewd gm who knows what he is doing. have to have faith. good luck has to swing our way, right? unless your the clippers.

RonRon wrote:i actually meant tanking for once for the 2011 pick since its 1 protected, and ill tank again for 2012 if we cant get any reasonable or elite players in their "prime"

then definately not. we played the waiting and crossing fingers game too long. this summer they need to be aggressive and have a well thought out plan that not only shows talent but a winning chemistry. the past ten years, i thought our knicks team had some talent but we just did not have chemistry. the fans will not have the patience to wait out another year to get better let alone "tanking" games in a year that we spent two years preparing and sacrificing for. if either plans go south, the knicks need an aggressive plan that will give us the clear purpose that we are enroute to a championship. if it doesnt work out the way we want it this summer, look for boston celtics type of moves which the cap room could make it more flexible to do.

TMS wrote:tanking for a 25% chance at the #1 pick would be even more irresponsible than trading away all our future assets for a chance to sign Lebron this summer... if we owned our pick outright it would be a feasible option, but Donnie has taken that option away... there are no acceptable plan C, D, E, F here... it's Lebron plan A, Chris Bosh plan B... we have no assets to trade for any other player worth building around at this point... we are all in with our cap space this summer & if we don't land a top name using that cap space, then all the moves to get us to this point were pointless.

Nah, I think it is about the level of irresponsibilty. . Walsh's plan has been jacked up from the start and if jj3(Johnson) at the max or tanking is the backup plan, thenwalsh needs to be fired.

This may not workout but it's no less risky than the lottery. I don't think it's a bad thing to end up going in the route of a Boston type team with a big 3. Adding Bosh/Amare to Lee and a resigned TMac isn't the end of the world. You still have a 2011 pick and the 2011 FA class. We'd have Bosh/Amare TMac Lee Gallo Chan - Walker Al Sergio House types off the bench. If we get back an improved Gallo n Chan which is reasonable to expect that really makes for a potent team. Finding a cheap athletic C would further improve the team.

C Lee or Bosh or Amare
PF Chandler
SF Gallo
SG McGrady
PG Johnson
6th Walker
7th Douglas

Then

C Lee or Bosh or Amare
PF Gallo or Chandler
SF McGrady
SG Johnson
PG Paul

RonRon wrote:i actually meant tanking for once for the 2011 pick since its 1 protected, and ill tank again for 2012 if we cant get any reasonable or elite players in their "prime"

this is the exact reason the tmac trade was terrible..if knicks have the worst record in '11 they will only have a 25% chance of getting 1st pick so dont even think about it..dw has put all his eggs in one basket and the basket is about to break..to answer your other question in order for the knicks to get under the cap to sign 2 big time fa they will have to renounce their bird rights to david lee..be prepared for another decade of bad basketball at the garden..unless donnie knows more about lebron's plans than we do.. i sure hope thats the case

oohah wrote:Guys, enough with the McGrady hope please!

Can't you see how he is one-legged most games? That come from weakness and soreness. He runs in a manner to make sure his knee does not buckle because he doesn't trust it.

McGrady came back from the microfracture surgery too fast so he could get one last contract. He is a very skilled player who does not have the athleticism that made him a superstar anymore. Once he gets his next contract he will sit a lot of games with soreness. Trust me.

oohah