i mean i am very scared of the fan reaction if lebron stays in cleveland."

Also MDA and SSOL has bought a huge departure in what was proud Knick basketball...We used to be about DEFENSE...We haven't seen that in over 10 years but still..We lived by it and won with it...We look absolutely clueless and people are still hanging on this guy's nutsack waiting for his players (3 to 4 all-stars) to fit his "system"...Talk about the savior mentality....

Look let's give this man a chance with players that he and DW feel can win with.

and I don't think I'm alone... the team will always be a big part of my life. That said, you can only take getting shat on for so long before the stank wears you out.

I wouldn't confuse the messageboard crowd with the fanbase at large. The fanbase is drifting away, albeit slowly

DW got us an A 1 coach coming off of back to back 55+ win seasons. when 50% of the fans started raising Hell for dumping JC and Zach, and turning marbury into the goat despite all of them coming in ready to give it there all, most of us were like, well we were losing with these same players any way so good riddens.

The other 50% of fans (including myself) thought this is absolutely a Yard sale move. I for one hated the trade and hated the outcast of marbury ( even though im no fan of his either) cause it was horrible timing and Just like most things in life, one bad move can trigger a domino effect.

Isiah put together a talanted team with no leader and no direction and put us in cap hell, but with a chance to at least be a playoff contender, DW has cleared out all the talanted players, turned us into a project, but with a boat load of cap space. Flexibilty and options are bueatiful thing in any line of work, so whats the fuss.

Im sick of hering about draft picks, it's taking lee 4 years to get where he's at now and jordan hill looks like another 4 year project, tony d as well. Isaih isn't here anymore and walsh doesn't look like his name should even be in the same sentence with isaih when it comes to drafting players, so im really not to concern about what picks we were giving up knowing it would end up a 4 yr project.

holfresh wrote:DJ has been shedding light on this stuff all season..You have been spot one...My exact sentiment...I was very proud to dis MJ though I respected his game...

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here's real talk like you say - the knicks have been one of the worst organizations in sport over the past decade. they have no plan other than praying for a government bailout.

but the worst thing about the past 2 seasons is that they have literally castrated the fanbase. knicks fans are pining and hoping for the savior while completely dismissing anything the past 2 seasons. it's like gallo + chandler + lee mean sh t. it's all about 2010 and who comes to the party. this is a huge departure from the knicks identity in the 90's on the court and from their fans where they were willing to say F CK jordan and wanted to rip his head off. now it's all about hanging on lebron's nutsack and hoping he bring his free mason ass to the garden.

then you compound it with signing the wrong coach and then really screwed the pooch with the hill pick and his subsequent banishment by d'antoni which ended up costing the knicks draft picks. it's kinda crazy when you think about it.

i mean i am very scared of the fan reaction if lebron stays in cleveland."

Also MDA and SSOL has bought a huge departure in what was proud Knick basketball...We used to be about DEFENSE...We haven't seen that in over 10 years but still..We lived by it and won with it...We look absolutely clueless and people are still hanging on this guy's nutsack waiting for his players (3 to 4 all-stars) to fit his "system"...Talk about the savior mentality....

DJ:

I don't think you need to worry about the fan reaction if LeBron stays in Cleveland. I think we'll handle it all very calmly: By congregating en mass outside the Garden with torches and pitch-forks. We will simply and calmly demand that Walsh & D'Antoni be turned over to us. And they'll do it. Because otherwise, we'll burn MSG down to the ground.

We will then very calmly, and in memory of our forefathers, tar and feather "Mike 'n Donnie", after which we will chase them on foot -- at the points of our pitch forks -- all the way uptown and over the GW bridge, banning them from the City of New York in perpetuity. That's all. No "freaking out", just calm and reasoned action.

In short, there's no need to worry about any fan over-reaction to not getting LeBron.

djsunyc wrote:is that all? i guess i was worried for nothing...

Right. And, Tarring and feathering isn't really all that serious. All we do is, we pour hot tar all over them, then we roll then in feathers, and chase them around for a while with pitch forks. It's all quite fun actually. Of course, it's possible Donnie might be a bit old for all this activity.

WindsorPl wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I'm not waiting for anything. I've went to less and less games, watched less and less games, read less and less recaps of games, posted less and less about the Knicks and more and more in the OT forum

and I don't think I'm alone... the team will always be a big part of my life. That said, you can only take getting shat on for so long before the stank wears you out.

I wouldn't confuse the messageboard crowd with the fanbase at large. The fanbase is drifting away, albeit slowly

My feelings exactly.
Wild guess here. The younger crowd is willing to wait, they have not been through the pain long enough.
For the older crowd, including myself, the pain has lasted long enough. We are seeing the same mistakes over and over again. Everytime it was a different excuse. It was Marbury, the hometown hero coming back home. Then it was Curry, the anchor, young and talented, in his prime. Now it is for cap space, the common denominator is sacrificing the future for a quick fix.
The game at Cleveland was the clincher for me, no grit, pride, honor, and no skills. Too painful to watch this team for the rest of this season.

the front office gave this team no support to win the past 2 years. every player knew about 2010 and every deal was made purely for financial reasons. it's understandable for the players to look like they do at times.

djsunyc wrote:

WindsorPl wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I'm not waiting for anything. I've went to less and less games, watched less and less games, read less and less recaps of games, posted less and less about the Knicks and more and more in the OT forum

and I don't think I'm alone... the team will always be a big part of my life. That said, you can only take getting shat on for so long before the stank wears you out.

I wouldn't confuse the messageboard crowd with the fanbase at large. The fanbase is drifting away, albeit slowly

My feelings exactly.
Wild guess here. The younger crowd is willing to wait, they have not been through the pain long enough.
For the older crowd, including myself, the pain has lasted long enough. We are seeing the same mistakes over and over again. Everytime it was a different excuse. It was Marbury, the hometown hero coming back home. Then it was Curry, the anchor, young and talented, in his prime. Now it is for cap space, the common denominator is sacrificing the future for a quick fix.
The game at Cleveland was the clincher for me, no grit, pride, honor, and no skills. Too painful to watch this team for the rest of this season.

the front office gave this team no support to win the past 2 years. every player knew about 2010 and every deal was made purely for financial reasons. it's understandable for the players to look like they do at times.

Surely they at least provided trucks & interns?

djsunyc wrote:

WindsorPl wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I'm not waiting for anything. I've went to less and less games, watched less and less games, read less and less recaps of games, posted less and less about the Knicks and more and more in the OT forum

and I don't think I'm alone... the team will always be a big part of my life. That said, you can only take getting shat on for so long before the stank wears you out.

I wouldn't confuse the messageboard crowd with the fanbase at large. The fanbase is drifting away, albeit slowly

My feelings exactly.
Wild guess here. The younger crowd is willing to wait, they have not been through the pain long enough.
For the older crowd, including myself, the pain has lasted long enough. We are seeing the same mistakes over and over again. Everytime it was a different excuse. It was Marbury, the hometown hero coming back home. Then it was Curry, the anchor, young and talented, in his prime. Now it is for cap space, the common denominator is sacrificing the future for a quick fix.
The game at Cleveland was the clincher for me, no grit, pride, honor, and no skills. Too painful to watch this team for the rest of this season.

the front office gave this team no support to win the past 2 years. every player knew about 2010 and every deal was made purely for financial reasons. it's understandable for the players to look like they do at times.