We've watched David Lee blossom before our eyes, 29th pick in the draft, homegrown, and has improved to the point that he made an allstar team, still most on here cant wait to usher him out of town. Why? Because we focus on all of his negatives instead of really evaluating the situation he is stuck in. Lee is a boarder-line allstar who, at best whould be a 3rd option on a really good team, instead he's asked to do what a number 1 option should be doing his flaws are showing like a pair of dirty drawers on a girl who walked out of the bathroom stall with her skirt wedged in her a##. And the list goes on and on.

I wasn't alive when the Knicks won thier championships, but I'll be damned if I didnt enjoy most of the Ewing years here. I would like to see my team win a championship just like any of us, but its extremely hard to put a championship team together. Everything has to fall just right and the stars have to align.

I think we can all agree that the draft pick Walsh gave up (2012) was a bit too much, but to say he better get Lebron since he gave up that pick is idiotic. You guys act like we gave away the potential of getting a Lebron type of player. the only way to move JJ's contract off the books meant he had to give up the pick. Walsh gambled. Again, it was a bit too much, but you can bet that if Walsh didn't move JJ's contract and we watched Lebron sign with your Brooklyn Nets, this place would be a wasteland of "B!!tching, moaning comapling and 'I told you so's" (Wait a minute, did I just say it would become a place....?). Walsh increased his options of signing a max player because now they can bring a buddy with them. The odds are still below 50%, but its a chance he felt he had to take.

playa2 wrote:Only Jesus can save Us

Jesus gave up on the Knicks when Dolan chased Spree and Camby out of town

playa2 wrote:We hustle for the players , but only Jesus can save Us

Don't let the hair fool you.

oohah wrote:The Knicks have gambled everything to get LeBron. Management has the savior mentality. Again, that is not us who did it, it is Knicks management. Sorry if you don't realize it.

Personally I would have preferred to build an actual team so a superstar will actually want to come here, and try to get under the cap enough to sign one big star.

However, if the Knicks do get to add some of the level 5-10 free agents to this garbage that is currently collected here, please do enjoy the mediocrity!

P.S. You greatly overrate David Lee. Once he gets back to playing with a real team where he is the #3-#5 option, he will go back to being simply a good effective player -- and that is not a knock on him. When David Lee is your star you are a 25 win team.

oohah

If I recall, Walsh has said several times that he is not putting all of his eggs into the Lebron Basket, WE, the fans and the media are.

I prefer to build an actual team aswell, and I think we will move in that direction this summer, Lebron or not. We will have 32 million to add pieces and start to build an actual team.

I got to say, all this negative BS talk about the future is tiresome. The plan was to get in position to offer Lebron a contract if he becomes a FA. The Knicks are in position to do so. The REST depends on Lebron. He is smart guy and fully understands what he wants and how to get it. If the Knicks fit, then it will work. If not, then not.

Let's just hold off until after the Finals or after Cleveland loses. UNtil then this is all speculation.

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sebstar wrote:If we dont get Lebron or Wade, what the hell is the point? We couldnt have acquired Boozer or Joe Johnson equivalents, or the players themselves, without giving up draft picks for the next 17 years?

Seb, I already acknowledged that Walsh may have overpaid for the extra cap space. But whats done is done. I dont think getting Lebron will/should justify giving up a pick when we already acknowledged that we gave up too much. Moving forward from today, how can we improve the team? If we land Amare Stoudemire, Joe Johnson, etc, the moves shouldn't be ripped based soley on the fact that we gave up a 2012 pick. Do these guys help us improve moving forward? Too many peole waste too much time driving themselves insane by wallowing in misery over missed draft picks in 1979.

we gave up a lot more than just a 2012 pick... Jordan Hill was still a prospect that was yet an unknown commodity & we gave up swap rights in 2011 which could come back to bite us in the ass just like it did in years past... no one will complain if we get Lebron because all those assets are easily worth getting a player of his calibre... people will complain if we get Joe Johnson however because we could have signed a player of his calibre without making this trade... it's not idiotic to feel like we gave up the farm with 1 target in mind... we obviously did... i don't care what Donnie Walsh says to cover his own ass, if we don't land Lebron or at the very least Wade &/or Bosh, then it's a failure on Donnie Walsh & one that could easily warrant him losing his job over.