fishmike wrote:There is a clear advantage because if he wanted to play in Sota he would be there now. I would like to see his agent and family lean on getting him to NY. Thats what everyone wants. Most of all we desperately need a defensive play making PG. We dont have a lot of assets to work with here but it would be interesting to see in Kahn caves a bit under some pressure.

Knicks really need a guy like Walker or Giddens to play well, OR hope that Chandler is enough.

If I am Sota I would look hard at a guy like Chandler. 17ppg, 50% shooting (afer Nov), can defend several positions, etc etc for a guy you drafted that doesnt want to play on your team is pretty good IMO

Wasn't Srod some type of big time PG overseas..how much has that amount to in the NBA..Rubio IMO doesn't have the confidence to play in this league yet, the buyout was a facter, but I think if this kid was NBA ready there would have been no debates

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:There is a clear advantage because if he wanted to play in Sota he would be there now. I would like to see his agent and family lean on getting him to NY. Thats what everyone wants. Most of all we desperately need a defensive play making PG. We dont have a lot of assets to work with here but it would be interesting to see in Kahn caves a bit under some pressure.

Knicks really need a guy like Walker or Giddens to play well, OR hope that Chandler is enough.

If I am Sota I would look hard at a guy like Chandler. 17ppg, 50% shooting (afer Nov), can defend several positions, etc etc for a guy you drafted that doesnt want to play on your team is pretty good IMO

Wasn't Srod some type of big time PG overseas..how much has that amount to in the NBA..Rubio IMO doesn't have the confidence to play in this league yet, the buyout was a facter, but I think if this kid was NBA ready there would have been no debates

Rodriguez had more hype than Rubio but stayed longer overseas. It's like Felipe Lopez staying at SJU. Each year the interest begins to diminish as certain flaws are exposed. I'm sure you are going to have some posters who say he wasn't bigger than Rubio but I clearly remember how he was suppose to be the next big thing. A cross between Jason Williams and Steve Nash.

Pharzeone wrote:

Moonangie wrote:We can't give up Chandler for Ricky's rights until we see how Sergio will play. He is not as flashy as Ricky, but he seems to be a play maker. Shooting is probably about the same. Ricky maybe has an edge defensively. But we get 29 games to figure it out.

Rodriguez was suppose to be pistol pete reborn. As much flash as Jason Williams ergo the nickname Spanish Chocolate.

From what I have seen, Rubio may be in that PP class. Sergio makes some nifty passes, but doesn't have that omnipresent court vision. Ricky just sees invisible shyte all over the place and makes mind-blowing passes.

Hell, I am stoked to see if Sergio can be our guy. Would save us from losing assets to grab Ricky's rights.

That came from Kobe and Lebron. Not NBA draft

fishmike wrote:Rubio was hyped because of the elite NBA players who played against him and gushed over a) his play making b) his defense and c) his heady play

That came from Kobe and Lebron. Not NBA draft

Kobe also said that he liked the direction that Isiah was going with the team 4 years ago. He also predicted that Monta Ellis would be an all-star because he was a special player. Said the same thing about Nate. He also thought his guy Vujacic would be as good as Manu if not better. That's why he gets paid to be a player and not a talent evaluator.

Pharzeone wrote:It's like Felipe Lopez staying at SJU. Each year the interest begins to diminish as certain flaws are exposed.

Bad comparison. Everybody new Felipe Lopez was not the Dominican Michael Jordan 10 games into his college career when guys from Iona were posting him up on the regular and throwing his shot back.

Trust me, I was a St. Johns season ticket holder back then and attended every game of his Redmen career.

But I get what you're saying in principle.

oohah

Moonangie wrote:

TMS wrote:Rubio was what we really needed before we made the T-Mac trade... now that the plan is Lebron or bust, we need to target an established PG who can help this team win right now... Rubio is still a developing talent & Lebron's not coming here to babysit for anyone... he wants a team ready made to contend for titles w/him as the main ingredient... i would love to acquire Ricky Rubio but the plan is no longer one of rebuilding with youth... it is now the rebuild with Lebron & other vets plan.

Word. Sergio could be a nice alternative. Maybe we still pickup Rubio somehow, but may not happen at this point.

if say we do end up signing Lebron & T-Mac agrees to a small contract, then we really don't need a playmaking PG anyway, just someone who can play defense on the perimeter, make hustle plays & knock down an open J.