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2/15/2010  1:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/15/2010  1:11 PM
Here's the latest from ESPN the Magazine's Ric Bucher: "Michael Beasley's collegiate career and NBA stats would suggest an up-and-coming star; combined with his rookie contract in these harsh economic times, all that should make him irresistible to any team looking to move an established, expensive star for a less-expensive future one. But the latest evidence that an overwhelming majority of the league's decision-makers see him as more flash than substance is reflected in a proposed three-way trade whose principle parts were 76ers F Andre Iguodala, Suns F Amare Stoudemire and the Heat's Beasley.

"While other pieces would've had to be included, the trade essentially would've sent Beasley to Philadelphia, Iguodala to Phoenix and Stoudemire to Miami. The deal broke down, sources say, because Philadelphia wasn't overwhelmed by the prospect of rebuilding around Beasley. This isn't an isolated case: the Heat appear to be the team most enamored with Stoudemire, but their trading chips are Beasley and Jermaine O'Neal, aka, a big, fat expiring contract. So far, no one has been willing to bite -- underscoring why the Heat tried so hard on draft night in 2008 to trade down and take the player they really wanted, O.J. Mayo."

Source: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

I rather not pay Amare so helping the Heat doesnt hurt us in my eyes. The key would be acquiring Beasley. Say what you what about the guy but he is a 20 yr old STUD. I'd be willing to send Philly anyone not named Gallo or Beasley.

Beasley is on his rookie deal for another 2-3 yrs giving us more time to rebuild without being capped out if we choose to do so.

We could even take O'neal, another Walsh guy, and plug him in at center until the end of the year.

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2/15/2010  1:15 PM
I'd give up Hill or TD for him, but not Lee or Chandler. And Philly would get a chuckle out of that offer.
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2/15/2010  1:15 PM
I'm down. If for no other reason than it will be a deal that Heat will regret for years to come.
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2/15/2010  1:17 PM
What, you want the Knicks to send a driver to Miami to help out with airport duty? Where do you get this stuff?
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2/15/2010  1:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/15/2010  1:49 PM
Depending on what Phoenix is looking for we can cut Philly out all together.

Phoenix gets Hill(PF), Chandler(SF), and Hughes(SG). We get Beasley(SF/PF), Cook(SG), and O'neal(C). Miami gets Darko(C) and Amare(PF).

We'd still have Harrington to move in a deal if we chose too.

I think we should be trying to acquire assets that D'Antoni can exploit since we know he isn't going anywhere. People are clamoring for Carmelo Anthony but Beasley could get close to Anthony skill wise.

Plain and simple Beasley is better than Chandler and he is more useful to us than Hill. Buy low sell high.

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2/15/2010  1:54 PM
the only problem i see with beasley is that he's somewhat caught in no man's land being a tweener sf/pf. that's like the worst spot to be in as a pro. every other tweener can find a spot on a team but the tweener sf/pf causes many a coach a problem trying to make it work.
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2/15/2010  2:03 PM
Beasley is in space. I am wondering what is really in the deal for the Suns if they end up moving amare? They aren't taken Big Z and Hickson. JJ is a prospect that can dunk the ball around the basket.

Curry, Hill and Chandler is a better deal for the Suns. Chandler can already play and is only getting better. Hill can slam a few home from nash. That would open up a sign and trade for Lee in the offseason as well.
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2/15/2010  2:05 PM
MS wrote:Beasley is in space. I am wondering what is really in the deal for the Suns if they end up moving amare? They aren't taken Big Z and Hickson. JJ is a prospect that can dunk the ball around the basket.

Curry, Hill and Chandler is a better deal for the Suns. Chandler can already play and is only getting better. Hill can slam a few home from nash. That would open up a sign and trade for Lee in the offseason as well.

it's not a better deal b/c you're asking the suns to pay $11 mil more than the cavs deal. every move the suns have made was to cut payroll. kerr is doing sarver's bidding.
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2/15/2010  2:14 PM
djsunyc wrote:
MS wrote:Beasley is in space. I am wondering what is really in the deal for the Suns if they end up moving amare? They aren't taken Big Z and Hickson. JJ is a prospect that can dunk the ball around the basket.

Curry, Hill and Chandler is a better deal for the Suns. Chandler can already play and is only getting better. Hill can slam a few home from nash. That would open up a sign and trade for Lee in the offseason as well.

it's not a better deal b/c you're asking the suns to pay $11 mil more than the cavs deal. every move the suns have made was to cut payroll. kerr is doing sarver's bidding.

You are 100% correct.

We know Phoenix wants a young player and expirings. Jordan Hill is a better prospect than JJ Hickson plus Hill played in Arizona as a Wildcat. We can offer any combination of Hughs, Darko, or Harrington they want.

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2/15/2010  2:23 PM
I realize the salary implications. The Suns are in trouble they are old and they are losing there best player. They have Nash making big time money, Richardson, Barbosa. Yes they want to cut cost, but a player that doesn't have a high upside for their All-Star. So your paying 13 million for 3 players. One of which is going to start the other is going to be in the rotation. Send them Tony Douglas too who cares. I don't love Amare put we really need to do something.

They need to move Nash as well while they can still get something for him.
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2/15/2010  2:29 PM
MS wrote:I realize the salary implications. The Suns are in trouble they are old and they are losing there best player. They have Nash making big time money, Richardson, Barbosa. Yes they want to cut cost, but a player that doesn't have a high upside for their All-Star. So your paying 13 million for 3 players. One of which is going to start the other is going to be in the rotation. Send them Tony Douglas too who cares. I don't love Amare put we really need to do something.

They need to move Nash as well while they can still get something for him.

Nash isnt going anywhere because he can make the young guys better. Phoenix is also trying to peddle Richardson in these deals. If they dump Richardson and Amare for expirings they have cap space to sign a guy like Rudy Gay if they wanted to.

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2/15/2010  2:29 PM
Should we try to trade for Amar'e ourselves? I guess D'Antoni isn't a fan... but we could certainly offer a better package than Hickson and Zydrunas... Harrington (fits their system) and Hill for Amar'e?
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2/15/2010  2:42 PM
So let's just say for arguments sake we are able to get Tracey for a Harrington or Hughes with Mobley package. Saving them 3 million or so or maybe we throw in cash to get him.

We turn around and send Hill to the Suns with an expiring for Amare.

we have 30 games left let say we go 16-14 with the following lineup. Reasonable that puts us at 34 wins.

Duhon/Nate
McGrady/Douglas
Chandler/Jefferies
Lee/Gallo
Amare

If it worth giving up Hill to maybe sign Amare and lose Lee or having the ability to sign and trade him during the summer?
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