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AnubisADL
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2/14/2010  1:23 PM
James signs new endorsement deal: James' and his marketing firm, LRMR, announced his second endorsement deal in the last month. This one is with Columbus-based American Signature Inc., which operates Value City Department stores in Ohio. James and his longtime girlfriend, Savannah Brinson, will be developing a line of home furnishings for the company.
This represents the strengthening of partnership that James has with the powerful Schottenstein family, which owns American Signature. Last year James gave out Steuben Glass gifts to his fellow All-Stars. Steuben Glass is owned by the Schottenstein family. Also, last year James personally nominated Jay L. Schottenstein, the company's CEO, to be on the prestigious Time Magazine Time 100 list of influential people.

Source: http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/02/cavaliers_dominating_trade_rum.html

I doubt the line will be ready before July 2010 and I dont see anyone in Ohio buying a dam thing with Lebron's name on it if he leaves.

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2/14/2010  1:30 PM
Absolutely nothing is set in stone until he re-signs with Cleveland.


Any article pro-NY or pro-CLE regarding LeBron is nothing more than a waste of time.

If the guy was staying put 100% he would have signed the mega-extension. The same contract people insist he won't leave to go to another team. He didn't sign it. He constantly says he will wait and see what free agency brings him.

So you can take any and all articles and shove them up someone's ass because that's how valuable they are any which way you see it.

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2/14/2010  1:33 PM
Cosmic wrote:Absolutely nothing is set in stone until he re-signs with Cleveland.


Any article pro-NY or pro-CLE regarding LeBron is nothing more than a waste of time.

If the guy was staying put 100% he would have signed the mega-extension. The same contract people insist he won't leave to go to another team. He didn't sign it. He constantly says he will wait and see what free agency brings him.

So you can take any and all articles and shove them up someone's ass because that's how valuable they are any which way you see it.

Did you even read the piece. It wasnt Pro-NY or Pro-CLE. It just stated facts with no opinion.

Lebron's actions speak louder than words.

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2/14/2010  1:37 PM
And his actions have showed he is opting out and hasn't signed any extension.

Are those the loud actions you speak of? Because they don't show him staying at home. And they don't read that the Knicks need to contract their franchise, either.

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2/14/2010  1:46 PM
so they're designing home furnishings for a company based out of ohio? this seals the deal how?
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2/14/2010  1:54 PM
nyk4ever wrote:so they're designing home furnishings for a company based out of ohio? this seals the deal how?

The timing of signing the endorsement is what alarms me. Obvisouly they realize he can become a FA and leave this summer so why sign the deal now.

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2/14/2010  1:58 PM
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nyk4ever wrote:so they're designing home furnishings for a company based out of ohio? this seals the deal how?

The timing of signing the endorsement is what alarms me. Obvisouly they realize he can become a FA and leave this summer so why sign the deal now.

Sprewell owned and maintained a car detailing shop in California as a Knick.

Nash hosts basketball and soccer camps in NYC.

Now I'm having a brain fart but there are many players who put money into their home town regions while playing thousands of miles away on another team.

It's not a sign of anything.

LeBron has shown and said time and again he wants to test free agency. Those aren't the words of a man committed to his current team. He even went out of his way to say that he is loyal to Akron where he grew up and NOT Cleveland. His words not mine.

I still feel it's about 75% he signs in CLE, 24% he signs in NYC, and 1% elsewhere.

So the deck is stacked against us but it's still quite nice to be in the running, no?


And again, damn, if he doesn't come that doesn't mean we need to contract the franchise and kill ourselves. Jeez. Where does this "Lebron or I'm going to murder Walsh and DAntoni" stuff come from?

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2/14/2010  2:03 PM
Cosmic wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:so they're designing home furnishings for a company based out of ohio? this seals the deal how?

The timing of signing the endorsement is what alarms me. Obvisouly they realize he can become a FA and leave this summer so why sign the deal now.

Sprewell owned and maintained a car detailing shop in California as a Knick.

Nash hosts basketball and soccer camps in NYC.

Now I'm having a brain fart but there are many players who put money into their home town regions while playing thousands of miles away on another team.

It's not a sign of anything.

LeBron has shown and said time and again he wants to test free agency. Those aren't the words of a man committed to his current team. He even went out of his way to say that he is loyal to Akron where he grew up and NOT Cleveland. His words not mine.

I still feel it's about 75% he signs in CLE, 24% he signs in NYC, and 1% elsewhere.

So the deck is stacked against us but it's still quite nice to be in the running, no?


And again, damn, if he doesn't come that doesn't mean we need to contract the franchise and kill ourselves. Jeez. Where does this "Lebron or I'm going to murder Walsh and DAntoni" stuff come from?

Please enlighten me how those relate to signing a regional endorsement deal for the state he could leave this summer. The same state that he was born in and would likely hate his guts.

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2/14/2010  2:07 PM
I give up. I just give up.

You win. You, DJ, Bluest, BRIGGS, you all win. You're right. KNICKS SUCK LOLOLOL.

Let's pour gas on Mike and Walsh and burn them to death. Let us nuke NYC. Let us hang ourselves.

Whoas me. LOL KNICKS SUCK LOLOLOL.

Seriously, enough already. Just ENOUGH. Take this act back to RealGM bud.

You guys aren't talking sports or debating the Knicks YOURE TROLLING.

Time for me to add about five of you to Bip's ignore list.

Nothing personal (Seriously, nothing personal) but god damn you guys are ridiculous.

And I have had ENOUGH. And I happen to be pessimistic about the team and you guys have driven me INSANE with your crap.

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2/14/2010  2:33 PM
Cosmic wrote:I give up. I just give up.

You win. You, DJ, Bluest, BRIGGS, you all win. You're right. KNICKS SUCK LOLOLOL.

Let's pour gas on Mike and Walsh and burn them to death. Let us nuke NYC. Let us hang ourselves.

Whoas me. LOL KNICKS SUCK LOLOLOL.

Seriously, enough already. Just ENOUGH. Take this act back to RealGM bud.

You guys aren't talking sports or debating the Knicks YOURE TROLLING.

Time for me to add about five of you to Bip's ignore list.

Nothing personal (Seriously, nothing personal) but god damn you guys are ridiculous.

And I have had ENOUGH. And I happen to be pessimistic about the team and you guys have driven me INSANE with your crap.

Again your being a little extra.

If we don't get Lebron we wont suck but we wont be winning a dam thing anytime soon either. Who wants Walsh and D'Antoni burnt to death? The media has portrayed these two as our saviors. Face it they have been overrated for a while now. I dont hate either but Im not going to suck them off either.

I dont take anything personal on the internet. You are getting yourself all worked up about nothing.

Oh and 2010 is ALL about Lebron because MSG made it that way. They've even resorted to Frazier sucking Lebron off on the air. You honestly think Dolan would allow Walsh to do nothing for 2 yrs for the chance at Chris Bosh?

If I dont like what a poster has to say I just dont respond. I don't go attacking posters with accusations of trolling and announce to the forum Im ignoring them. It serves no purpose other than to draw attention to yourself.

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2/14/2010  2:37 PM
Anyway back to the topic.

I'd like to see the financial's of this "endorsement" deal but of course that will never happen. I find it odd when a guy going into Free Agency gets weird endorsements from a company owned by a Billionaire family in his state.

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2/14/2010  4:20 PM
Nobody really knows what's gonna happen. Maybe the Knicks get LeBron, maybe not. Until he signs somewhere, all we can do is speculate. No reason to get upset.
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2/14/2010  4:23 PM
Cosmic wrote:Absolutely nothing is set in stone until he re-signs with Cleveland.


Any article pro-NY or pro-CLE regarding LeBron is nothing more than a waste of time.

If the guy was staying put 100% he would have signed the mega-extension. The same contract people insist he won't leave to go to another team. He didn't sign it. He constantly says he will wait and see what free agency brings him.

So you can take any and all articles and shove them up someone's ass because that's how valuable they are any which way you see it.


Thank you, this random stuff don't mean nothing until he actually puts his sig on the dotted line

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2/14/2010  4:41 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:so they're designing home furnishings for a company based out of ohio? this seals the deal how?

The timing of signing the endorsement is what alarms me. Obvisouly they realize he can become a FA and leave this summer so why sign the deal now.

So this company is based out of Ohio? So what? That means they don't sell furniture outside of Ohio? Nike is based out of Pirtland Oregon shouldn't he have signed with the Blazers already? Enuff with these chicken little threads.

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2/14/2010  4:56 PM
Look the guy says he's gonna take his time and explore his options, so let's assume he's not lying and that we will have our chance to make a pitch to him. See it's not just about this next year or the year after that. Lebron is only 25 and he will have to weigh the decision he makes based on the next 5-10 years. It's our job to convince him that we would provide the best option for him over that period of time. So yeah his team in on top right now and such, but maybe we can show him reasons to be concerned about the Cavs future prospects for winning as opposed to what we have planned. It's a long shot, but who knows.

The fear I have is what it would mean if they added Amare. Even if they did, what happens in the playoffs is gonna impact his decision a lot IMO. They really have to win it this year, cuz if they don't the guy takes losing really hard and I think he'd be really frustrated and ripe for listening to what we had to say.

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2/14/2010  7:00 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/14/2010  7:02 PM
i think everyone knows that i've moved on from the orange and blue...so think of my opinion as that of a guy on the outside looking in.

i have no problems with d'alsh's plan of cutting salary for 2010 and going for the prime targets. i can see why they would do it. but i also disagree with it b/c i feel that if you're in ny, the best thing you can do is try to keep acquiring talent and keep winning as many games as possible b/c the city and fans demand it. the 2010 thing was a total play for a savior and i feel, castrated alot of knicks fans. at that point, everyone was told that the next 2 years didn't matter.

but they then brought in a coach that's not known for rebuilding and likes to play vets. he also wanted to win in the interim so that cost the team a higher pick. i thought it was a great hire but as time went on it turns out that he might not have been the best hire for the current state of purgatory the knicks. he's a coach that if given guys that can score, can help them overachieve. that's why the team should've just kept buying players as talented guys were available on the cheap. d'antoni could've got them to overachieve and get the garden rocking again. but they didn't do that. and his coaching a not so talented team sort of exposed him in a way and that's why i kept posting about my dissapointment in him.

so...they brought in d'antoni and tried to give him some vets which all but insured a mid to late lottery pick. that was very shortsighted b/c they already gave fans a reason to accept losing in the form of 2010.

and now, it's possible 2010 isn't going to yield the fruits they expected. which then makes the whole plan somewhat questionable. IF they decided to just play younger guys, got away from vets (like the nets/kings did) then that would've made alot more sense than trying to win as they would've been long term pieces and could've yielded better picks. but guys like harrington & hughes & duhon were brought in with the idea of winning and not caring about those draft picks.

anyways, long story short...it's all about who they sign this summer. gallo does not matter. chandler does not matter. is hill even on the team? it's all about 2010. when 75% of all knicks discussion is how to dump deals, then that's all that matters.

july is judgment day. and if they are unable to acquire a big time free agent, i fear it could *break* alot of knicks fans spirits b/c after all the isiah nonsense, this was the only thing that hasnt been tried...and i don't think they can handle it if it fails. a handful can...or say they can...but i won't believe them.

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2/15/2010  9:03 AM

I hear Lebron is trying to buy the Yankees and move them to Akron.
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2/15/2010  9:28 AM
LeBron has said twice it's about winning. That should be all the nails right there.
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2/15/2010  1:29 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:LeBron has said twice it's about winning. That should be all the nails right there.


True, but he can't say its about money either!

I think in general this guy is going to have a hard time leaving but he must know its all business. If they don't win this year or next they will turn on him ala Ewing.

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