trading ward for a different position could de-stabilize the team. I know FW has been playing well[over a very limited # of games] but I dont think he is ready for 40 minutes. Moochie Norris isnt in the same stratosphere as WArd in terms of all-around play.
If we have a williams norris backcourt-we will be in TROUBLE.

i know there has been a lot of banter about trading for rahim---wallace--jamison, and Mcdyess really is shot--but these teams will want to literaly rape us of EVERY last young asset we have. It could cost us lampe vujonic and a pick+ ending contracts to acquire any one of them. Thats what I would be asking for and why not--because there is going to be massive competition for these players services.


Maybe it is in our best LONG term interests to see if we can pull off a Doleac+ lets say 2 second round picks for Rodney White so we have a guy who can legitmately play 2-3-4--who has the talent to start but who is used to playing off the bench.


If it s going to cost us a number 1 lampe and vujonic to get one of these players, i dont want to do it.

we CANNOT afford to let Ward walk without getting something comparable at the same position--which makes it DOUBTFUL!

I think we shore up the swing position with a Rodney White who I believe we CAN get, and let it ride with what we have.

we have nothing

Ward is going to be traded in anyway either in a package trade to bring in a dominating PF or str8 up for a SG.i do agree about not including Lampe,Milos.Everything else is acceptable,all the other players as well.

Posted by Rich:

Ward gets broken down by almost every PG he tries to defend. Similarly, he can't break down anyone. Norris can do both better than Ward. But Ward can make shots.

Obviously, the soundest basketball move is to buy out Eisley, who has replaced Spoon as the most useless player on the team, but that's probably not going to happen right now.

Isiah has to do whatever is in the best interest of the team long-term. Ward isn't coming back after this season, so the difference in moving him now is negligible.



[Edited by - Rich on 01/03/2004 17:08:11]

Norris can't play D. That's why VG got rid of him. Ward is a better defensive player.

First off, Lampe, Vujanic, Williams... would only go in a deal to bring back another young player. So no, we will not be bringing in Sheed, Jamison, or Abdhur Raheem for any of those guys unless a high pick is involved. McDyess and Ward (combined 19 Million in Expiring contracts) will bring a sizeable return. Ward does nothing after this year... we won't resign him. His cap value in a trade is worth much more than any backup point guard role we have for him. We also need a spot to entice Vujanic (who I've seen tape of, and is nasty) to come over. So relax, its a good move if we can get a useful front court player or a scorer in return.

Posted by OldFan:

Posted by Rich:

Ward gets broken down by almost every PG he tries to defend. Similarly, he can't break down anyone. Norris can do both better than Ward. But Ward can make shots.

Obviously, the soundest basketball move is to buy out Eisley, who has replaced Spoon as the most useless player on the team, but that's probably not going to happen right now.

Isiah has to do whatever is in the best interest of the team long-term. Ward isn't coming back after this season, so the difference in moving him now is negligible.



[Edited by - Rich on 01/03/2004 17:08:11]

Norris can't play D. That's why VG got rid of him. Ward is a better defensive player.

When, those rare times his knees aren't a problem? He gets beat off the dribble by every decent penetrating PG.

the knicks will discard ward like a sack of trash just like they do every player that ever showed any loyalty to this organization.

The Knicks showed Ward tons of loyalty by giving him that monster contract that he didn't deserve.

Grunfield gave him a fair deal

6 years 31 mill is a good deal

2 more games with Chollie Ward and he is outtie !