I dont know why NYK fans are so loyal to H2O? I got jumped when I took a shot at him. He is so incredibly one-dimensional its not even funny. cannot rebound, cannot pass, steal, defend and he cannot even break down the defense. He is a jump-shooter. A 3rd option and he is paid like a franchise. Its ridiculous how many cap problems that makes now and just imagine what happens 2 years from now.

We can never trade Houston even if he was healthy. No GM wants his MAX FREAKING contract. I hate that about him. We have to sit on him till 2007 when everyone will be miserable. Lets just sit on him and trade him with 1 or 2 yeras left on his contract.

Posted by gunsnewing:

but he can hit a game winning shot like no other

unless of course he cannot get open and KT shoots a 3-pointer right? H2O is not a max-contract player. Steve Kerr can hit the big shot too. I'm not saying H2O and Kerr are on the same level but there isn't that much difference between them.

but he makes 100 times more the money kerr does. is that feasible?

Silver why when Houston is playing well you're one of those who brags on how sweet Houston's jumper is, now you wanna bash because he's hurt?

Posted by playa2:

Silver why when Houston is playing well you're one of those who brags on how sweet Houston's jumper is, now you wanna bash because he's hurt?

And not only is that statement baseless, I never blamed him for being hurt nor am I bashing him now. HE IS GETTING WAY TOO MUCH MONEY!

Posted by knickgeek:

I don't care what Houston earns any more. Is it too much? Yes. KVH also makes too much, so does Eisley and Anderson (did I leave anyone out?)

I wouldn't care either but him making all that money is one of the reason why it is impossible for us to sign free agents. The players of Jermaine O'Neal's caliber. Franchise players.

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 01/03/2004 19:22:22]

Houston is overpaid - you'll never get equal value and you'll have to take on equally bad contracts. He is not a good all around player. But he is a GREAT SHOOTER and he can get his shot off. Just enjoy it and live with it - because I think the only way we get rid of him is by taking just as much in contracts for worse players.

Posted by Silverfuel:

I dont know why NYK fans are so loyal to H2O? I got jumped when I took a shot at him. He is so incredibly one-dimensional its not even funny. cannot rebound, cannot pass, steal, defend and he cannot even break down the defense. He is a jump-shooter. A 3rd option and he is paid like a franchise. Its ridiculous how many cap problems that makes now and just imagine what happens 2 years from now.

We can never trade Houston even if he was healthy. No GM wants his MAX FREAKING contract. I hate that about him. We have to sit on him till 2007 when everyone will be miserable. Lets just sit on him and trade him with 1 or 2 yeras left on his contract.

A few points:

1) Even if Houston were paid what he is worth - the KNICKS are still way over the cap.

2) If houston is the third best player on your team you've got a damn good team. I'd argue the Houston was as good or better then most of the third best players on the last 10 world champions.

3) Getting rid of your best players and starting from scratch - fails way more often then it succeeds. Getting the franchise player you need comes down to LUCK as much as anything else. And there are less of them then you think. In the last 10 years there have only been 4 guys that have actually taken their teams to the promised land: Jordan, Shaq, Duncan and Akeem. Everyone else is a wannabe. Put anyone of them on the current Knicks and they're championship contenders in most years. (This year if LA plays up to there potential NO ONE else is a contender).

4) Even with Houston contract if the Knicks could be a MUCH better team if they were luckier/smarter. They've (and a lot of other teams) let some pretty good players go by them in drafts.

5) Because Spree seems to always be a barometer against who the current Knicks are measured against. Apparently he was over paid to - as the Knicks shopped him all over and the best they could do was KVH - another player you don't think much of.

6) Houston is not a great defender - but defense is a team thing. The Knicks managed to play great defense with Houston on the floor when VG was here so I think this argument is overplayed.

where did u hear about this Hardcore? Me and Silverfuel are considering going to the game but only if houston plays and Frank would be nice to.