Is this the coaches fault--may answer is YES---I believe MDA has done a poor job integrating these players--when TD was playing well--he was then benched and not heard from again. Was Jordan Hill used even once as a guy who can play some post D next to Lee---I mean just to try it--nope---what did it net the team---nothing we sck. I think the GM and the coach have to get on the same page a bit. I cant see how DW is OK with not playing Hill and Douglas now. I think the bottom line with DW was clean house and nothing else and that is what he did.

If a team is looking for a pick outside of a Lebron or Shaq to come in and immediately save their squad then they lost already.

Drafts are a marathon not a sprint. That said, the jury is still out on both our picks for real.

Jennings, Lawson, Collison, Holiday PG

There are a lot of kids in last years draft, Caspi, Johnson, Blair, etc that could have helped right away. And two players that you everyone knew were impact talent were Lawson and Blair. We all know Jennings was the selection if you were going to take a chance on potential, but having a point guard that can push the ball and find the open man and a big that can post and rebound and is tough inside where two big missing links.

Walsh needed to come up big in the draft and he did not. If they pan out down the road that's all well and good. But with either of those two kids running the show we would be much improved and moving towards something. Instead we again one of the worst teams in the league.

MDA has said several times that Hill was getting closer but not there yet. Douglas isnt a PG (yet) and his time went away when Hughes came back into the rotation and lets be fair, Hughes was great for that stretch in Dec. If Hughes and Duhon were playing at the level they were in Dec we would be a playoff team right now.

Little premature to label these guys or the handling of these guys as "failures." They are getting chances with mixed results. Neither has done anything to merit a chunck of playing time.

Aside from S. Curry I wasn't that high on many of the PG's. Just cuz some have looked good early doesn't mean Hill was a mistake. He was considered to have greater upside. I'd hate to find we passed on a big that turned out to be a force just we could get a bit kore help in yr one, which is a throw away yr anyway. Jennings has been splashy but what if Hill is 20/10/2 for us in 2 yrs and Jennings is TJ Ford?

BRIGGS wrote:have received for a 7 and 28 pick. So many other teams young guys are giving an impact--helping while the guys we have played a slight to nothing role--one out of the lottery--and one we spent 3mm $ on thinking he is a PG when he is not[Doesnt mean he cant be a good player becasue I think he has ability]

Is this the coaches fault--may answer is YES---I believe MDA has done a poor job integrating these players--when TD was playing well--he was then benched and not heard from again. Was Jordan Hill used even once as a guy who can play some post D next to Lee---I mean just to try it--nope---what did it net the team---nothing we sck. I think the GM and the coach have to get on the same page a bit. I cant see how DW is OK with not playing Hill and Douglas now. I think the bottom line with DW was clean house and nothing else and that is what he did.

After the trade deadline, unless we get on a bonafide playoff push, if those two don't get some burn, then we should blame MDA. But for now, I'm satisfied with what he's done. The season isn't half over yet. We had a promising stretch where it looked like we might start to contend for a low seed. After the break, we will know quickly if that was a pipe dream, and if it was then we will get plenty of Hill and TD.

BRIGGS wrote:have received for a 7 and 28 pick. So many other teams young guys are giving an impact--helping while the guys we have played a slight to nothing role--one out of the lottery--and one we spent 3mm $ on thinking he is a PG when he is not[Doesnt mean he cant be a good player becasue I think he has ability]

Is this the coaches fault--may answer is YES---I believe MDA has done a poor job integrating these players--when TD was playing well--he was then benched and not heard from again. Was Jordan Hill used even once as a guy who can play some post D next to Lee---I mean just to try it--nope---what did it net the team---nothing we sck. I think the GM and the coach have to get on the same page a bit. I cant see how DW is OK with not playing Hill and Douglas now. I think the bottom line with DW was clean house and nothing else and that is what he did.

Jordan Hill was selected 8

Toney Douglas was selected 29

Just sayin

Pharzeone wrote:I blame Herb Williams. The guy is a horrible big man coach. Why is he still here? What big man has he developed in the post? Jordan doesn't seem like he put on any real weight and still has problem with his drop step moves.

I like Herb, he seems like a really good guy - but you're right, his coaching seems to be pretty questionable. I think he's a Dolan guy which is why he's survived all these coaching changes.

nyk4ever wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:I blame Herb Williams. The guy is a horrible big man coach. Why is he still here? What big man has he developed in the post? Jordan doesn't seem like he put on any real weight and still has problem with his drop step moves.

I like Herb, he seems like a really good guy - but you're right, his coaching seems to be pretty questionable. I think he's a Dolan guy which is why he's survived all these coaching changes.

Hey, if they love him so much, give him a job upstairs. I don't see anyone's improvement with Herb as the big man/defense coach. We definitely need to see an upgrade in that direction.