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Per NY Times Cap likely to be closer to 57.7mm
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BRIGGS
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1/24/2010  3:17 AM
This season's NBA ticket revenues have not dropped as much as the league office projected over the summer. The league expected a 6% to 7% drop in ticket sales but there has been only a 1.7% drop to date.

Attendance is flat or ahead of last season's pace in the majority of NBA arenas. The Nets and Pistons account for most of the small overall decline.

"The fact that we're only down roughly 1.7% going into tonight's games, I'm pleased about," said NBA executive Chris Granger.

With this large piece of basketball-related income so far beating forecasts, the league's salary cap might drop significantly less than first feared. The NBA sent a memo to teams last July warning of a decline in the cap to a figure between $50.4 million and $53.6 million for the 2010-2011 season. But revenues could be on pace for the 2010 cap to be above $54 million and perhaps closer to this season's cap of $57.7 million.

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1/24/2010  5:15 AM
That means that we can "overpay" to keep Lee and still get a Max without much of a problem (not that I want to, but don't want to lose Lee for nothing). Lee is constantly improving, remember, if we resign him we could always move him...

Or and hopefully, Lee accepts something closer to 9 or 10 million an we would have enough to keep Nate or sign a pg.
An extra 3 million is more than we'd get buying out Curry.

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1/24/2010  8:39 AM
This is great news to wake up to, this means that we can sign Lee!
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1/24/2010  11:19 AM
The N.B.A. anticipated a difficult year because of the recession. But attendance in most markets is either flat or ahead of last season. Leaguewide, N.B.A. arenas are filled to 89 percent of capacity.

Chris Granger, the N.B.A.’s senior vice president for team marketing and business operations, said the league had anticipated an attendance decline of about 6 to 7 percent.

“The fact that we’re only down roughly 1.7 percent going into tonight’s games, I’m pleased about,” Granger said Friday. “Our teams have been very resilient thus far.”

Although the Knicks have the advantage of playing in a city of roughly eight million people, it is hard to overstate the challenge of filling the Garden.

The 2000s were a lost decade, littered with bloated payrolls, internal feuds, sexual-harassment lawsuits and coaching changes. The Knicks have not won a playoff series since 2000 or had an All-Star since 2001. Without controversy, they would have been wholly uninteresting.

The seven other franchises that sold at least 10,000 season-ticket plans this season are all contenders, playoff teams or likely playoff teams: the Boston Celtics, the Cleveland Cavaliers, the Los Angeles Lakers, the Orlando Magic, the Portland Trail Blazers, the Utah Jazz and the Oklahoma City Thunder.

The Knicks are selling only hope — and the promise of a few thrills along the way.

“I don’t know if it’s been a good investment,” D’Inverno said, “but it’s been an enjoyable one.”

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/24/sports/basketball/24knicks.html

Selling tickets cheaper tickets helps keep attendance up but it doesn't help the bottom line if they are selling them for less money.

Revenue and Attendence are not interchangeable values.

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1/24/2010  11:22 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
The N.B.A. anticipated a difficult year because of the recession. But attendance in most markets is either flat or ahead of last season. Leaguewide, N.B.A. arenas are filled to 89 percent of capacity.

Chris Granger, the N.B.A.’s senior vice president for team marketing and business operations, said the league had anticipated an attendance decline of about 6 to 7 percent.

“The fact that we’re only down roughly 1.7 percent going into tonight’s games, I’m pleased about,” Granger said Friday. “Our teams have been very resilient thus far.”

Although the Knicks have the advantage of playing in a city of roughly eight million people, it is hard to overstate the challenge of filling the Garden.

The 2000s were a lost decade, littered with bloated payrolls, internal feuds, sexual-harassment lawsuits and coaching changes. The Knicks have not won a playoff series since 2000 or had an All-Star since 2001. Without controversy, they would have been wholly uninteresting.

The seven other franchises that sold at least 10,000 season-ticket plans this season are all contenders, playoff teams or likely playoff teams: the Boston Celtics, the Cleveland Cavaliers, the Los Angeles Lakers, the Orlando Magic, the Portland Trail Blazers, the Utah Jazz and the Oklahoma City Thunder.

The Knicks are selling only hope — and the promise of a few thrills along the way.

“I don’t know if it’s been a good investment,” D’Inverno said, “but it’s been an enjoyable one.”

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/24/sports/basketball/24knicks.html

Selling tickets cheaper tickets helps keep attendance up but it doesn't help the bottom line if they are selling them for less money.

Revenue and Attendence are not interchangeable values.

They might discount tickets a little bit but drinks,snacks and parking are all full price. You get the bodies in, they buy the full price crap, and you don't lose much if anything.

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1/24/2010  11:26 AM
kam77 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
The N.B.A. anticipated a difficult year because of the recession. But attendance in most markets is either flat or ahead of last season. Leaguewide, N.B.A. arenas are filled to 89 percent of capacity.

Chris Granger, the N.B.A.’s senior vice president for team marketing and business operations, said the league had anticipated an attendance decline of about 6 to 7 percent.

“The fact that we’re only down roughly 1.7 percent going into tonight’s games, I’m pleased about,” Granger said Friday. “Our teams have been very resilient thus far.”

Although the Knicks have the advantage of playing in a city of roughly eight million people, it is hard to overstate the challenge of filling the Garden.

The 2000s were a lost decade, littered with bloated payrolls, internal feuds, sexual-harassment lawsuits and coaching changes. The Knicks have not won a playoff series since 2000 or had an All-Star since 2001. Without controversy, they would have been wholly uninteresting.

The seven other franchises that sold at least 10,000 season-ticket plans this season are all contenders, playoff teams or likely playoff teams: the Boston Celtics, the Cleveland Cavaliers, the Los Angeles Lakers, the Orlando Magic, the Portland Trail Blazers, the Utah Jazz and the Oklahoma City Thunder.

The Knicks are selling only hope — and the promise of a few thrills along the way.

“I don’t know if it’s been a good investment,” D’Inverno said, “but it’s been an enjoyable one.”

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/24/sports/basketball/24knicks.html

Selling tickets cheaper tickets helps keep attendance up but it doesn't help the bottom line if they are selling them for less money.

Revenue and Attendence are not interchangeable values.

They might discount tickets a little bit but drinks,snacks and parking are all full price. You get the bodies in, they buy the full price crap, and you don't lose much if anything.

I had a friend in high school that had a plastic tube connected to alcohol and he would sit in class and sip it through the tube.

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1/24/2010  11:31 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/24/2010  11:32 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
kam77 wrote:They might discount tickets a little bit but drinks,snacks and parking are all full price. You get the bodies in, they buy the full price crap, and you don't lose much if anything.

I had a friend in high school that had a plastic tube connected to alcohol and he would sit in class and sip it through the tube.

Pretty much. Alot of teams have been creating packs were you get a ticket and food(Popcorn and Soda or whatever). Even MSG sent out cronies to invade Knick forums.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=33293

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1/24/2010  12:48 PM
just to be fair, the article doesn't say what you say in the title, briggs.


it says it "could be" around $54 mil and "perhaps closer to $57.7 mil."

Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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1/24/2010  2:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/24/2010  3:28 PM
That would be awesome. Hope it works out that way. The difference between $54 million and $58 million could be an upgrade at PG through free agency...
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1/24/2010  7:53 PM
orangeblobman wrote:This is great news to wake up to, this means that we can sign Lee!

Nope. Don't need non-defense playing bigs. And I won't be fooled by the best player on a bad team. build it from scratch with two way players. I trade the entire team for cap space.

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1/24/2010  7:56 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:This is great news to wake up to, this means that we can sign Lee!

Nope. Don't need non-defense playing bigs. And I won't be fooled by the best player on a bad team. build it from scratch with two way players. I trade the entire team for cap space.

If you feel this way, then I would say that you gotta trade Lee before this deadline. His value is as high as it will ever be. You dish him now, but for what?

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1/24/2010  8:27 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:This is great news to wake up to, this means that we can sign Lee!

Nope. Don't need non-defense playing bigs. And I won't be fooled by the best player on a bad team. build it from scratch with two way players. I trade the entire team for cap space.

it depends on what else u have to put around Lee... if u can convince Lebron to come here w/o us signing another max player & Hill becomes a fulltime starter & provides the shotblocking presence & low post defense we need, then it makes perfect sense to keep Lee.

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1/24/2010  8:28 PM
Finestrg wrote:That would be awesome. Hope it works out that way. The difference between $54 million and $58 million could be an upgrade at PG through free agency...

would definitely be a huge benefit to us but it also gives agents of second tier talent more leverage to seek more money.

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1/24/2010  8:39 PM
I don't see any reason to fear keeping Lee if you figure in a more mature and hopefully beefed up Hill next to him. Lee does everything else so well. Moving him back to PF with Hill at C looks good enough to me for the future.
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1/24/2010  8:45 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:This is great news to wake up to, this means that we can sign Lee!

Nope. Don't need non-defense playing bigs. And I won't be fooled by the best player on a bad team. build it from scratch with two way players. I trade the entire team for cap space.

If you feel this way, then I would say that you gotta trade Lee before this deadline. His value is as high as it will ever be. You dish him now, but for what?

It will be hard to deal him prior to the deadline because of his BYC status. He is still valuable in a S&T and could be used to obtain bird rights on the second max FA. Otherwise, if there is a way around the BYC issue, I'd start collecting 2011+ draft picks.

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1/24/2010  10:38 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Attendance is flat or ahead of last season's pace in the majority of NBA arenas. The Nets and Pistons account for most of the small overall decline.

Do tell.

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