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bernard
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1/15/2010  12:22 PM
That David Lee seems to dispute every single non call? It seems that at least a few times a game his man beats him downcourt because he's mouthing off to an official or making a point of showing his frustration at a non-call for a second or two before heading back on D.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Lee fan. I think he brings unique skills to the offensive end and is even getting better on D. But this should be an easy thing to fix. It also reveals how his focus really is on the offensive side. If I were D'Antoni, I'd be on him about this.

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NYKBocker
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1/15/2010  12:26 PM
He has a little Bill Laimbeer in him.
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1/15/2010  12:26 PM
I think every single "player who wants to move their ranks up to being a star" does this. They want to get superstar calls, they gotta make superstar arguments.
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1/15/2010  12:28 PM
I agree- and I've been noticing the same thing.

This should almost go in the Bosh/Lee thread- as part of what differentiates Bosh from Lee is probably the kinds of calls one gets vs. the other.

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1/15/2010  12:42 PM
bernard wrote:That David Lee seems to dispute every single non call? It seems that at least a few times a game his man beats him downcourt because he's mouthing off to an official or making a point of showing his frustration at a non-call for a second or two before heading back on D.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Lee fan. I think he brings unique skills to the offensive end and is even getting better on D. But this should be an easy thing to fix. It also reveals how his focus really is on the offensive side. If I were D'Antoni, I'd be on him about this.

i hate it too, but tim duncan does the same thing and no one questions his getting back on defense

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1/15/2010  1:05 PM
bernard wrote:That David Lee seems to dispute every single non call? It seems that at least a few times a game his man beats him downcourt because he's mouthing off to an official or making a point of showing his frustration at a non-call for a second or two before heading back on D.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Lee fan. I think he brings unique skills to the offensive end and is even getting better on D. But this should be an easy thing to fix. It also reveals how his focus really is on the offensive side. If I were D'Antoni, I'd be on him about this.


the last problem we have his with D Lee. I have no problem with the team--they are trying---we need some new and different pieces to enahance the core players.

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1/15/2010  1:08 PM
bernard wrote:That David Lee seems to dispute every single non call? It seems that at least a few times a game his man beats him downcourt because he's mouthing off to an official or making a point of showing his frustration at a non-call for a second or two before heading back on D.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Lee fan. I think he brings unique skills to the offensive end and is even getting better on D. But this should be an easy thing to fix. It also reveals how his focus really is on the offensive side. If I were D'Antoni, I'd be on him about this.

YES.

I am so very tired of the crying. So very tired watching him spend time crying to a ref while the play is still going on. He's sitting there crying about a call while our own team is trying to run a play. He's sitting there crying for a call while the opponent is racing up the court on offense.

I AM VERY TIRED OF WATCHING THAT. In fact, now, even when he does have a point? I still scream "OH SHUT THE HELL UP LEE AND GET UP THE COURT!"

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1/15/2010  1:19 PM
you guys are funny
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kam77
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1/15/2010  1:30 PM
I have no problem with this. Lee is yelling to the refs because he is becoming a star and he's letting them know that he expects these calls now.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/15/2010  1:46 PM
I don't think Lee is yelling at the refs about the foul calls, I think he's yelling at them complaining about Knick fans who rag on him for such petty BS.
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1/15/2010  1:55 PM
nyk4ever wrote:I don't think Lee is yelling at the refs about the foul calls, I think he's yelling at them complaining about Knick fans who rag on him for such petty BS.

I thought he was wondering why the Mayor was mentioned in all of the trade threads.

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nyk4ever
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1/15/2010  2:24 PM
Andrew wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:I don't think Lee is yelling at the refs about the foul calls, I think he's yelling at them complaining about Knick fans who rag on him for such petty BS.

I thought he was wondering why the Mayor was mentioned in all of the trade threads.

exactly andrew. lee has alot to talk to the refs about so it's really ok.

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1/15/2010  2:35 PM
I think this is a non issue. Lee does not get calls around the basket that he should get at this point in his career. Hopefully he will start to get them more and more. He goes about it in the right way, and never hurts the team by picking up a tech. Lee's a smart player and is becoming a star, and just wants respect when he blows by big man for the finish.
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1/15/2010  2:46 PM
i think a part of the reason he may not be getting calls is because he constantly whines about not getting them... at least he's not getting T'd up for it tho... if it reaches that point then it becomes a problem.
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1/15/2010  2:49 PM
NYKBocker wrote:He has a little Bill Laimbeer in him.

Pause. No homo.

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1/15/2010  5:40 PM
Knixkik wrote:I think this is a non issue. Lee does not get calls around the basket that he should get at this point in his career. Hopefully he will start to get them more and more. He goes about it in the right way, and never hurts the team by picking up a tech. Lee's a smart player and is becoming a star, and just wants respect when he blows by big man for the finish.

The issue is that it's just about every play on both sides of the ball.

A play here or there? Fine.

But every play? It's really bad....and he's costing us by doing it for as he does it the other 9 players are heading up the court and then he's left behind.

So, it is an issue.

David Lee isn't the Teflon Don. It's okay to criticize David Lee when he does stupid stuff. He needs to tone it down.

Crying every play won't get any respect from the refs either it will make them WANT to call him for fouls or not call opponents for fouling him.

Even more now he comes off the court and cries to teammates about it.

Just shut up and play David. Put all that energy you spend complaining into DEFENSE.

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1/15/2010  5:48 PM
I'd prefer he go Wilson and just play but at the same time I don't recall D-Lee getting very many Ts if any thru-out his career.

I don't like that he is sometimes slow getting back due to talking with the refs but there may be something to the theory of bitching just enough to get some key calls to go your way.

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1/15/2010  7:18 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
i hate it too, but tim duncan does the same thing and no one questions his getting back on defense

That's because Tim Duncan has been selected for all defensive team 12 times, more than any other player ever.

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1/15/2010  7:22 PM
Yep. It's getting very Utah-esque
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