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To all those that didn't believe Bayless was the real deal....
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EnySpree
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12/24/2009  3:58 AM
Tell me why he single handedly destroyed the Spurs last night...leading with 31pts and 7 assists....

Portland is a poorly run franchise....why they let this kid rot all this time and only play him when all of their players are hurt...the golden boy Roy is out with an injury and all of a sudden Bayless is a starter...mark this down as the second game that Bayless basically wins a game for Portland single handed.

Bayless = Kevin Johnson....I stand by that comparrison and its starting to take shape...wish he was a Knicks but I'm just happy to see him getting his time to shine.

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12/24/2009  5:28 AM
He's had a string of nice games and you've got to give it up for him. But right now he is a rookie that has barely played. He doesn't have all the athleticism in the world and for all his talents he has a lot of shortcomings (pun intended). He's doing a great job, let's see if he can keep it up, what happens when he meets the rookie wall, etc.

Ok, so you're the Portland franchise. You just came off a winning season, losing to the Rockets in 7 games who lost to the Lakers in 7 games who won the title. That's a pretty damn good year. Now, you start this year off pretty well, currently in 5th place in a stacked Western conference that you want to win. You have Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Pryz, Outlaw, Webster, Miller, and Fernandez who are must play. They are clearly your top talent who have proven themselves more or less. Of course you also have Blake who you can take a flier on whether or not he's necessary. Now divvy up the minutes between them and where does Bayless fit in?

His role is a bench energizer much like Outlaw who they have and is taller and more proven. He's not much of a point guard or a 3 point shooter so he can't really fill in the roles of Blake, Fern, or Miller. The way the team was constructed, he wasn't going to play, plain and simple. No team has been ravaged by injury this year remotely as much as Portland. Oden, Pryz, Outlaw, Batum, and Fern are pretty much out for the season. Did Bayless really win the game single handed? Or is there simply nowhere else for the Blazers to turn to. They absolutely need him and and he delivered. That's fantastic, but I can't see what the Blazers did wrong per se.

Jeez they played someone named Jeff Pendergraph and Dante Cunningham for 25 minutes last night! That's how bad it is over there. If the Knicks lost Harrington, Lee, and Chandler, do you not think Gallo would step up for 31 points and 7 rbs? Do you really like Bayless that much to want him over Gallinari?

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12/24/2009  5:43 AM

Season Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
87-88 CLE 52 3 20.1 .460 .222 .821 .20 1.20 1.40 3.7 1.15 .33 1.58 1.80 7.3
09-10 POR 24 1 14.9 .463 .429 .795 .2 1.1 1.3 1.5 0.2 0.1 0.8 2.0 8.5

Pretty similar rookie stats but KJ improved quickly and was more of a true PG. It will be interesting to see where Bayless goes from here

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12/24/2009  11:11 AM
Impressive game, but im not sold on Bayless as a star PG. He can be a quality role playing combo guard though. Allow him to come off the bench be the primary scoring threat with the 2nd unit.

Nate Robinson is still better then him.

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12/24/2009  11:34 AM
If we can all agree that Jordan Hill will never be as good as david lee that makes hill a nice piece for portland to add. The Blazers are in a tough spot and they have someone that really dominates the ball in Roy. Why no sway Hill and Bayless?

We need a lot of help at one position and that's the guard spot. YOu could also sign Jordan Farmar to be your starting point guard a good shooter that works well in the pick and role.

Lebron would see a nice core of players that is improving and you resign David Lee and in 2011 the Knicks lose 18 million in salary and can add another piece to the following core

Farmar-Douglas
Chandler-Bayless
Lebron-Chandler
Gallo
Lee

That team has mutliple defenders (Douglas, Chandler, Lebron, Gallo is underated and improving

Shooters (Farmer, Douglas, Bayless, Gallo) to pair with Lebron

The Hill deal is a win-win.

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12/24/2009  4:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/24/2009  4:04 PM
i don't think anyone on this board has ever said Jerryd Bayless was a bust or wasn't the real deal to begin with... he's getting a chance to play now & making the most of it... good for him... hopefully Jordan Hill will get the same opportunity so he can show what he can do.
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12/24/2009  4:32 PM
TMS wrote:i don't think anyone on this board has ever said Jerryd Bayless was a bust or wasn't the real deal to begin with... he's getting a chance to play now & making the most of it... good for him... hopefully Jordan Hill will get the same opportunity so he can show what he can do.

yeah...just more of the usual. Cherry picking whenever a flavor of the month for another team has a good game. Yawn.

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12/24/2009  8:14 PM
I'm wondering why so many people want to trade Jordan Hill right now. Isn't it good to have assets and let players earn their time and develop in a system?
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12/24/2009  8:16 PM
Its pretty much a yawn- I still take Gallo 10 times out of 10 over Bayless.
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12/24/2009  9:07 PM
93BUICK wrote:I'm wondering why so many people want to trade Jordan Hill right now. Isn't it good to have assets and let players earn their time and develop in a system?

Hmmm. And that was post #666....

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12/24/2009  9:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/24/2009  9:09 PM
No one doubted Bayless's ability to score. What is in question is his ability to run an offense and keep everyone happy. I suspect his lack of development in that area is why he is riding the bench. I would love to get him, if Portland was interested in Hughes or Harrington or Darko, but I would not trade one of our young players for him, other than maybe Douglas and I would be reluctant to do that because Douglas brings a high BB IQ and above average defense (and he can score).
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12/24/2009  11:04 PM
TheGame wrote:No one doubted Bayless's ability to score. What is in question is his ability to run an offense and keep everyone happy. I suspect his lack of development in that area is why he is riding the bench. I would love to get him, if Portland was interested in Hughes or Harrington or Darko, but I would not trade one of our young players for him, other than maybe Douglas and I would be reluctant to do that because Douglas brings a high BB IQ and above average defense (and he can score).

exactly... we already had a dynamic undersized SG in Nate who's shown way more in his time in the NBA than Bayless has, but MDA's not even using him right now... how much different is Bayless' game than Nate's? i ask this cuz i've seen him in limited action & from what i've seen of him so far, he just seems to bring the same kind of skillset that Nate does, penetration, quickness, good ball handler, explosion to the rim, ability to hit the perimeter J, can get hot & take over a game... is he a guy with excellent court vision who can orchestrate an offense effectively & make his teammates better?

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12/25/2009  11:06 AM
He's playing well right now, I admit I wasn't too fond of him though.

With their 2 centers out for the season Portland is going to have an opportunity for some type of speedball. This will certainly help Bayless' game.

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12/25/2009  12:42 PM
TMS wrote:
is he a guy with excellent court vision who can orchestrate an offense effectively & make his teammates better?

Bayless is 6 in taller than Nate; being "undersized" is less of an issue.

Bayless doesn't have the maturity issues that plague Nate

Bayless isn't selfish

Bayless wants to win

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12/25/2009  2:39 PM
McK1 wrote:
TMS wrote:
is he a guy with excellent court vision who can orchestrate an offense effectively & make his teammates better?

Bayless is 6 in taller than Nate; being "undersized" is less of an issue.

Bayless doesn't have the maturity issues that plague Nate

Bayless isn't selfish

Bayless wants to win

but he's still undersized nonetheless... is he a better player than Nate right now?

i'll give u that on the maturity issue, there aren't many players w/the maturity issues that Nate has.

i don't think Nate's a selfish player, he's all about supporting his teammates... he just isn't a ball distributor, he's a scorer... pretty much like Bayless.

as for the wanting to win thing, name me one athlete that doesn't want that.

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12/25/2009  2:53 PM
TMS wrote:
McK1 wrote:
TMS wrote:
is he a guy with excellent court vision who can orchestrate an offense effectively & make his teammates better?

Bayless is 6 in taller than Nate; being "undersized" is less of an issue.

Bayless doesn't have the maturity issues that plague Nate

Bayless isn't selfish

Bayless wants to win

but he's still undersized nonetheless... is he a better player than Nate right now?

i'll give u that on the maturity issue, there aren't many players w/the maturity issues that Nate has.

i don't think Nate's a selfish player, he's all about supporting his teammates... he just isn't a ball distributor, he's a scorer... pretty much like Bayless.

as for the wanting to win thing, name me one athlete that doesn't want that.

jordan hill

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12/26/2009  11:27 AM
TMS wrote:
McK1 wrote:
TMS wrote:
is he a guy with excellent court vision who can orchestrate an offense effectively & make his teammates better?

Bayless is 6 in taller than Nate; being "undersized" is less of an issue.

Bayless doesn't have the maturity issues that plague Nate

Bayless isn't selfish

Bayless wants to win

but he's still undersized nonetheless... is he a better player than Nate right now?

i'll give u that on the maturity issue, there aren't many players w/the maturity issues that Nate has.

i don't think Nate's a selfish player, he's all about supporting his teammates... he just isn't a ball distributor, he's a scorer... pretty much like Bayless.

as for the wanting to win thing, name me one athlete that doesn't want that.

Eddy Curry, duhhh.

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12/26/2009  1:55 PM
if he is the real deal, then what is nate? nate had a string of games better than this last year.... including a 34/15 game or something like that.....
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12/26/2009  2:05 PM
tkf wrote:what is nate?

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