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joec32033
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12/13/2009  6:23 PM
This was buried in the Bergen News article on Bender...:

Sunday, December 13, 2009
Donnie trolls Indiana again

A year after drafting Al Harrington out of St. Patrick’s High School in Elizabeth, Donnie Walsh went the same route in Indiana by drafting Jonathan Bender out of Picayune (Miss.) High.

That didn’t work out as well, as chronic knee problems forced Bender to retire _ until he told Walsh he thought he could play again and the Knicks’ president decided to roll the dice by signing him.

A slender 7-footer, Bender averaged 5.6 points in seven seasons with the Pacers, but played only nine games his final two seasons. Still only 28, Bender had built a post-basketball business around Hurricane Katrina recovery in his Mississippi hometown, buying damaged properties and hiring contractors to refurbish before renting them.

Bender fills the Knicks’ final roster spot, for the moment, although the team, via an appeal to the NBA, soon expects the retired Cuttino Mobley to vacate the spot he still holds and wipe his $9 million-plus salary off their cap. They can still use his contract in a trade prior to the appeal, but could not use his slot to sign or trade for a player afterward.

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12/13/2009  6:25 PM
What does it all mean? I don't understand the Cuttino situation.
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12/13/2009  6:27 PM
It means they're either going to let it slide off the books or make a trade any day now. I don't understand how just letting it slide will help us because I thought that his contract was good trade bait? I don't know either.
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12/13/2009  6:40 PM
Yeah, orange is right. I have a feeling that with the 15th (we can trade players signed as free agents then - e.g. - Nate, I believe) coming, a trade might be in the works. I would further speculate that lots of teams have been making calls with that date in mind. Nate showed he could score before that DNP hit him, perhaps there is a connection, but I doubt it...

Then the next wave of moves will probably come before the trade deadline (though last year was pretty quiet from memory).

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12/13/2009  6:59 PM
Maybe nate was benched to prevent injuries because Donnie knows something we don't.
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12/13/2009  7:04 PM
I heard on the last Knicks broadcast that because Nate's deal was done late in the summer, he can't be traded until December 22.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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12/13/2009  7:57 PM
Cuttino's contract when it comes off the books will affect the luxury cap for this year and what is required to be paid to other teams. That contract coming off the books is big.
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12/13/2009  11:38 PM
Not trading that contract is the worst thing Walsh has done since he's been here. That's about twice as bad as the Jeffries Nate non-deal.
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12/14/2009  1:03 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/14/2009  1:03 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Not trading that contract is the worst thing Walsh has done since he's been here. That's about twice as bad as the Jeffries Nate non-deal.

True. It makes the Zach trade even worse considering we could've traded Zach for a 2nd rounder and a massive trade exemption before the start of last season but Donnie turned it down.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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12/14/2009  8:22 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Not trading that contract is the worst thing Walsh has done since he's been here. That's about twice as bad as the Jeffries Nate non-deal.

you mean the one that was never offered by Sac? That one?
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12/14/2009  9:05 AM
fishmike wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Not trading that contract is the worst thing Walsh has done since he's been here. That's about twice as bad as the Jeffries Nate non-deal.

you mean the one that was never offered by Sac? That one?

Yeah, or the other "imaginary" trades mentioned in the media (like the Zach one)...
We have two, probably fairly high, second round picks this year. It's the no first round pick that sucks...

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12/14/2009  11:48 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/14/2009  11:49 AM
earthmansurfer wrote:
fishmike wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Not trading that contract is the worst thing Walsh has done since he's been here. That's about twice as bad as the Jeffries Nate non-deal.

you mean the one that was never offered by Sac? That one?

Yeah, or the other "imaginary" trades mentioned in the media (like the Zach one)...
We have two, probably fairly high, second round picks this year. It's the no first round pick that sucks...

You don't seem to understand...if you trade the contract you get only the value of the dollars and any other team would get the same. If it comes off the overage of the luxury cap it gets counted twice and is worth double face value since the Knicks would not be required to pay the penalty for those dollars. (For cap's sake it counts double anyway the insurance pays the largest portion of the player contract iirc)

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12/14/2009  12:15 PM
Olbrannon wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:
fishmike wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Not trading that contract is the worst thing Walsh has done since he's been here. That's about twice as bad as the Jeffries Nate non-deal.

you mean the one that was never offered by Sac? That one?

Yeah, or the other "imaginary" trades mentioned in the media (like the Zach one)...
We have two, probably fairly high, second round picks this year. It's the no first round pick that sucks...

You don't seem to understand...if you trade the contract you get only the value of the dollars and any other team would get the same. If it comes off the overage of the luxury cap it gets counted twice and is worth double face value since the Knicks would not be required to pay the penalty for those dollars. (For cap's sake it counts double anyway the insurance pays the largest portion of the player contract iirc)

I understand that. There is a big savings by not trading the contract. But, that said, you can trade the contract and get more than it's value perhaps, cause it's insured. There is a chance we could get a good player or draft pick, depending on the team.

In my post though, I was only talking about the trades that didn't happen that people complained about. The thing that we both were alluding to is that those "offers" were never made, at least that is what the truth appears to be many months later.

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12/14/2009  12:19 PM
The Clippers aren't going to make the playoffs and Marcus Camby is in the last year of his deal I don't think they will get much value there and sterling loves saving money. He would be a good fit in a Duhon-Chandler-Gallo-Harrington lineup
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12/15/2009  8:53 PM
BasketballJones wrote:What does it all mean? I don't understand the Cuttino situation.

hopefully it means we're about to dump Fishlips' at any moment.

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