Nate + Darko + Mobley for McGrady

Would you do it?

Would the Knicks do it?

Would the Rockets do it?

or i'm crazy...

Plus, that might help us win a few games, but it doesnt do anything significant unless it involves Jeffries or Curry

crzymdups wrote:i'd rather try to trade nate for a first round pick.

They kill his value by benching him. He just had a series of 20 point games--he has a low enough salary that his BYC shouldnt be a problem. Right now the best you will get is a 2. They dont really need 2 unless they want to sell them off for $$

BRIGGS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i'd rather try to trade nate for a first round pick.

They kill his value by benching him. He just had a series of 20 point games--he has a low enough salary that his BYC shouldnt be a problem. Right now the best you will get is a 2. They dont really need 2 unless they want to sell them off for $$

As usual, completely disagree with you. By now, there isn't anyone in the league that doesn't know what you get w/N8. His trade value is what it is whether he plays or not...his sitting does however increase the likelihood of his nateness approving a trade out of NY on a slow bus to nowhere...AND...decreases the likelihood of his out of control play getting him injured again or re-injuring the ankle

Rookie wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i'd rather try to trade nate for a first round pick.

They kill his value by benching him. He just had a series of 20 point games--he has a low enough salary that his BYC shouldnt be a problem. Right now the best you will get is a 2. They dont really need 2 unless they want to sell them off for $$

As usual, completely disagree with you. By now, there isn't anyone in the league that doesn't know what you get w/N8. His trade value is what it is whether he plays or not...his sitting does however increase the likelihood of his nateness approving a trade out of NY on a slow bus to nowhere...AND...decreases the likelihood of his out of control play getting him injured again or re-injuring the ankle

That makes no sense. The value of a commodity changes daily--there is no set value for Nate--is he any different in terms of skills when we couldve shifted Jefferies out for him--no. Was his value different when he had his 34-8-7 game or his 43 point game--yes. Does a coach who rips him publicly and bench him effect value--yes. I try to use common sense when I post something.

BRIGGS wrote:

Rookie wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:i'd rather try to trade nate for a first round pick.

They kill his value by benching him. He just had a series of 20 point games--he has a low enough salary that his BYC shouldnt be a problem. Right now the best you will get is a 2. They dont really need 2 unless they want to sell them off for $$

As usual, completely disagree with you. By now, there isn't anyone in the league that doesn't know what you get w/N8. His trade value is what it is whether he plays or not...his sitting does however increase the likelihood of his nateness approving a trade out of NY on a slow bus to nowhere...AND...decreases the likelihood of his out of control play getting him injured again or re-injuring the ankle

That makes no sense. The value of a commodity changes daily--there is no set value for Nate--is he any different in terms of skills when we couldve shifted Jefferies out for him--no. Was his value different when he had his 34-8-7 game or his 43 point game--yes. Does a coach who rips him publicly and bench him effect value--yes. I try to use common sense when I post something.

This isn't the stock market..if someone wants an enery player off the bench who is undersized with great quickness, is reluctant to pass so he can get his and is a streaky shooter who plays little defense and really isn't a true PG..AND likes to jabber with the refs and will mouth off to opposing players, get technicals and then shrug and say 'what'd I do coach'?...then N8's your guy. Make sense? His career numbers/averages are what they are. Every now and again he'll get hot and change a game with big scoring but again, he is a streaky player who can score when he's hot.

Agree totally with Fishmike on acquiring 2nd round picks -- they could go a long way in lengthening our roster with young talent as many of our own FAs probably will be moving on. No way I'm poo-pooing a 2nd rounder, esp. with our roster and the huge turnover we'll probably be looking at in the off-season.. With the sorry state of affairs this team's in right now, 2nd rounders are assets. You can see it already - there will be a handful of players that can help NBA teams in the 2nd round -- Knicks need to start doing their homework on guys right now..

If I were Donnie the thing I might do right now is sit down with Nate and Lee and explain things to them man to man. I might tell them, look, this season is not going according to plan and I might have to start the rebuilding process even earlier than I thought. I think they'd respect that. I'd then ask them how they felt about being traded and if either wasn't dead-set against it, I'd then ask them each for a list of teams that they'd consider approving a trade to. Start there...They do it in other sports..I'd still much rather trade Lee and Nate over guys like Hill and Douglas if I could..

Rookie wrote:
When did N8 become AI? Speaking of chided, here's a quote from his coach - "If he's conducive to winning, he'll get back into the lineup. If he's not, he's not." I'm not exactly an insider, but it doesn't look like N8 has much value in this league to begin with. As far as your fantasy stats go, yes he has talent but every coach that has gambled on him has come out holding the ****ty end of the stick. Maybe...just maybe...if enough people tell you something...maybe...just maybe, it might be true. I don't think he's a midget circus act, but then again, I don't think his value could get any higher, or lower for that matter, with increased playing time. Briggs, you seem to like to gamble on long shots and thats fine. Maybe we should just agree to dissagree

not 4 nothing but nate has started 59 out of 294 career games and almost half of those starts came as a rookie. what coach has ever really gambled on Nate?

McK1 wrote:

Rookie wrote:
When did N8 become AI? Speaking of chided, here's a quote from his coach - "If he's conducive to winning, he'll get back into the lineup. If he's not, he's not." I'm not exactly an insider, but it doesn't look like N8 has much value in this league to begin with. As far as your fantasy stats go, yes he has talent but every coach that has gambled on him has come out holding the ****ty end of the stick. Maybe...just maybe...if enough people tell you something...maybe...just maybe, it might be true. I don't think he's a midget circus act, but then again, I don't think his value could get any higher, or lower for that matter, with increased playing time. Briggs, you seem to like to gamble on long shots and thats fine. Maybe we should just agree to dissagree

not 4 nothing but nate has started 59 out of 294 career games and almost half of those starts came as a rookie. what coach has ever really gambled on Nate?

Here's what N8 can do for a team