[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

The Official "I hate Al Harrington" Thread
Author Thread
orangeblobman
Posts: 27269
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/1/2009
Member: #2539
Nauru
11/28/2009  3:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/28/2009  3:33 PM
Stats aside, this guy is not a team player. He is incapable of passing it around and playing within the flow of the game. For every 30, 40 point game he has, he has about 3 or 4 20% shooting nights. Even on his best days, he takes ill-advised shots and forces the issue. It's really hard for this guy to pass the ball, it's not in his blood.

It's fun to watch, when he takes crazy three-point shots and they go in, but only for the most casual of fans. Anyone with an interest in the long-term future of the franchise cannot be seriously in favor of keeping this guy around.

I take crazy shots on the playground sometimes, and sometimes I have a great day and they go in. Does this make me a sound basketball player? hardly. This is the case with Al. Lot's of talent, not enough discipline or direction. He is best in a 15-20mpg role off the bench; not as your go-to guy.

Even when he plays 'great' he manages to hurt the team. Do not let the statistics fool you.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
AUTOADVERT
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
11/28/2009  3:34 PM
i think he's a great 6th man off the bench, but not the guy u want to be ur go to guy in crunchtime... he'd make a nice supporting role player on a winning team but not my ideal w/the style of ball i'd like to see played here.

regardless he's been 1 of the few reasons to have any interest whatsoever in this team this year... at least he's putting up #'s, which is more than i can say for most of the other guys on this team.

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
orangeblobman
Posts: 27269
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/1/2009
Member: #2539
Nauru
11/28/2009  3:37 PM
not that this is a great argument, but it's an indication-- the nuggets announcers were praising him and saying he is a good basketball player.

the nuggets announcers last night were also observed by many of us to be biased, inadequate, and generally stupid. they also said that gallo has no future in the nba (by saying that he has a future in europe). granted, this isn't a big thing to go off of, but it does support the argument that harrington sucks.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
EnySpree
Posts: 44919
Alba Posts: 138
Joined: 4/18/2003
Member: #397

11/28/2009  3:47 PM
Al Harrington is a good player....he just happens to be the most talented scorer the Knicks have....hence the reason the Knicks are in the bowels of the nba basement.

Question? Should Melo pass the ball? no he shouldn't cuz he's their best scorer....so why is it different for Al Harrington??? Al Harrington is our Carmelo Anthony....sounds crazy but thats what he is to us.

Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast https://twitter.com/DiehardknicksPC https://instagram.com/diehardknickspodcast
orangeblobman
Posts: 27269
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/1/2009
Member: #2539
Nauru
11/28/2009  3:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/28/2009  4:02 PM
take a second and quickly study the game logs of both players, melo and harrington:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3268/gamelog;_ylt=AoW7cv3RGjTb78.GMRHGZYFFPKB4

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3706/gamelog;_ylt=AoW7cv3RGjTb78.GMRHGZYHLPKB4

you see, what is evident is that harrington sucks. and he's so inconsistent. and even when he's good, he can't lead us anywhere. only to the bottom of an empty well.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
11/28/2009  4:05 PM
EnySpree wrote:Question? Should Melo pass the ball? no he shouldn't cuz he's their best scorer....so why is it different for Al Harrington??? Al Harrington is our Carmelo Anthony....sounds crazy but thats what he is to us.

the best players know when to pass & when to shoot... Al only knows 1 mode... that's the only problem i have w/him... he forces the issue too much, he's gotta play smarter.

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
ramtour420
Posts: 26587
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 3/19/2007
Member: #1388
Russian Federation
11/28/2009  4:12 PM
Oh boy. Melo is better than most ppl at his position. Well he is better than almost everyone. Now with that in mind Al Harrington is not Melo- the point is he is the "Melo" on this team, nothing more, nothing less and yeah i understand that you think Melo is better, its not surprising. Poiunt is Al is pretty damn good at what he does as well.
Everything you have ever wanted is on the other side of fear- George Adair
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
11/28/2009  4:17 PM
in some ways i sorta wish he weren't here so we could see Gallo playing a more significant role in this offense... but obviously u can't blame the guy for being a better player right now... but for that reason i don't think i'd be interested in bringing Al back next year at the dollars he's likely to command, even tho i do think he's a good player.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
orangeblobman
Posts: 27269
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/1/2009
Member: #2539
Nauru
11/28/2009  4:25 PM
yea man. he's good and all, but just not for us i don't think. i am not trying to take anything away from the guy, but i feel he takes a lot away from our Team. that's all.
WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
TRU
Posts: 20752
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/25/2002
Member: #196
USA
11/28/2009  4:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/28/2009  4:39 PM
This thread is rediculous. Al and I both are offended.

You can waste time hating our team leader in scoring and passion-- the only player to proudly wear his orange and blue around here since Alan Houston retired.

Me, I'd rather appreciate him.

And I really can't believe you argue that he sux by comparing him first to your own playground skills and then to the league's leading scorer and MVP candidate.

Let it be known: I believe in the Knicks this year-- deep into the playoffs, I swear to you my brothers...
EwingsGlass
Posts: 27678
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 4/29/2005
Member: #893
USA
11/28/2009  4:56 PM
orangeblobman wrote:Stats aside, this guy is not a team player. He is incapable of passing it around and playing within the flow of the game. For every 30, 40 point game he has, he has about 3 or 4 20% shooting nights. Even on his best days, he takes ill-advised shots and forces the issue. It's really hard for this guy to pass the ball, it's not in his blood.

It's fun to watch, when he takes crazy three-point shots and they go in, but only for the most casual of fans. Anyone with an interest in the long-term future of the franchise cannot be seriously in favor of keeping this guy around.

I take crazy shots on the playground sometimes, and sometimes I have a great day and they go in. Does this make me a sound basketball player? hardly. This is the case with Al. Lot's of talent, not enough discipline or direction. He is best in a 15-20mpg role off the bench; not as your go-to guy.

Even when he plays 'great' he manages to hurt the team. Do not let the statistics fool you.

How can you make these statements and actually post the game log for Al Harrington? Did you look at his game log? And you say the stats aren't important? Are you using them to support your argument or not? Al only has 3 games all season where he shot less than 30%. He is averaging 44% from the field. He hasn't complained about being the 6th man. His worst games are those when he gets less than 20 mins. Actually, it might be that he is having a bad game that keeps him from playing more minutes. He might be the only player than consistently drives the ball. And he plays defense.

Let's take your argument at its strongest-- ball movement tends to end with him. Truth is, besides David Lee, nobody else is playing well enough to command the ball. Second, the Knicks offense is stagnant around the perimeter. How often during Al's isolation plays is there any movement off the ball... actually, how often do the Knicks have any movement off the ball? Al is a walking mismatch because he is too fast for PFs to guard off the dribble and his range forces PFs to step out.

I am not trying to critique the orchestra on the Titanic here, but your analysis is flawed. I don't always love him, but he is the best player we have. His performance last night was refreshing.

You know I gonna spin wit it
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
11/28/2009  5:24 PM
Orangeblob--you're plan is get the ball to Gallinari and let him shoot 50 3's a game--that's about it. Sorry that's not how the NBA works.
RIP Crushalot😞
The Official "I hate Al Harrington" Thread

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy