Player             Expectation           Reality check
 Al Harrington      High                  Sucks
 David Lee          Some                  As expected 
 Danilo Gallinari   High                  As expected    
 Larry Hughes       Some                  As expected     
 Wilson Chandler    High                  Sucks 
 Nate Robinson      High                  Sucks   
 Toney Douglas      Some                  Better than expected
 Chris Duhon        Some                  Sucks
 Eddy Curry         Some                  Sucks
 Jordan Hill        Some                  As expected     
 Jared Jeffries     Some                  Sucks  
 Marcus Landry      Hmm...                Hmmm....
 Darko Milicic      High                  Sucks    

arkrud wrote:Just coping from my other thread... to which nobody post.
Who like the truth anyways:

Player             Expectation           Reality check
 Al Harrington      High                  Sucks
 David Lee          Some                  As expected 
 Danilo Gallinari   High                  As expected    
 Larry Hughes       Some                  As expected     
 Wilson Chandler    High                  Sucks 
 Nate Robinson      High                  Sucks   
 Toney Douglas      Some                  Better than expected
 Chris Duhon        Some                  Sucks
 Eddy Curry         Some                  Sucks
 Jordan Hill        Some                  As expected     
 Jared Jeffries     Some                  Sucks  
 Marcus Landry      Hmm...                Hmmm....
 Darko Milicic      High                  Sucks    

It comes down to this: Duhon played consistant BB last year and was solid. Nothing great but solid. He's been awful in every way. The one real difference maker we had last year was Nate, who has been hurt or ineffective so far this year. Chandler and Lee have regressed and we havent gotten anything extra for Al, Hughes or anyone else. That = .200 BB

arkrud wrote:Just coping from my other thread... to which nobody post.
Who like the truth anyways:

Player             Expectation           Reality check
 Al Harrington      High                  Sucks
 David Lee          Some                  As expected 
 Danilo Gallinari   High                  As expected    
 Larry Hughes       Some                  As expected     
 Wilson Chandler    High                  Sucks 
 Nate Robinson      High                  Sucks   
 Toney Douglas      Some                  Better than expected
 Chris Duhon        Some                  Sucks
 Eddy Curry         Some                  Sucks
 Jordan Hill        Some                  As expected     
 Jared Jeffries     Some                  Sucks  
 Marcus Landry      Hmm...                Hmmm....
 Darko Milicic      High                  Sucks    

I wouldnt say Harrington scks--lets be fair---he's been inconsistent yet at times spectacular. If he could hone is inconsistencies in--he'd be a very very nice player. I mean you dont avg 20-7 45% from the 3 position in the NBA if you sck. I never liked Al's game--it's like he has the total package but it just doesn't show every night but seeing him every night shows you that he could be a really really good player IF he finds the consistency button or close to it.

BRIGGS wrote:

arkrud wrote:Just coping from my other thread... to which nobody post.
Who like the truth anyways:

Player             Expectation           Reality check
 Al Harrington      High                  Sucks
 David Lee          Some                  As expected 
 Danilo Gallinari   High                  As expected    
 Larry Hughes       Some                  As expected     
 Wilson Chandler    High                  Sucks 
 Nate Robinson      High                  Sucks   
 Toney Douglas      Some                  Better than expected
 Chris Duhon        Some                  Sucks
 Eddy Curry         Some                  Sucks
 Jordan Hill        Some                  As expected     
 Jared Jeffries     Some                  Sucks  
 Marcus Landry      Hmm...                Hmmm....
 Darko Milicic      High                  Sucks    

I wouldnt say Harrington scks--lets be fair---he's been inconsistent yet at times spectacular. If he could hone is inconsistencies in--he'd be a very very nice player. I mean you dont avg 20-7 45% from the 3 position in the NBA if you sck. I never liked Al's game--it's like he has the total package but it just doesn't show every night but seeing him every night shows you that he could be a really really good player IF he finds the consistency button or close to it.

Gotta say Gallo is a disappointment if you're spitting truth and how is Jeffries less than expected?

Coming out of the FA season and Summer League games we thought this was one of the worst teams in the NBA... low and behold... we're one of the worst teams in the NBA.

No added talent to a team that won at the same clip last year post Craw/Zach. Shocker that they're doing the same this year.

Duhon is really the linchpin. He's the only one who can run the offense in their wildest dreams, and he's not having very good dreams over the last 75 games or so. Knicks are kind of like a motorcycle with the front wheel missing. Unless we can pop a wheelie and balance perfectly, then we're not winning a race any time soon. For every other team, its as easy as putting your foot on the pedal.

TMS wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I wouldnt say Harrington scks--lets be fair---he's been inconsistent yet at times spectacular. If he could hone is inconsistencies in--he'd be a very very nice player. I mean you dont avg 20-7 45% from the 3 position in the NBA if you sck. I never liked Al's game--it's like he has the total package but it just doesn't show every night but seeing him every night shows you that he could be a really really good player IF he finds the consistency button or close to it.

dude, u called him garbage in past years when i proposed trades to go after him.

Try reading past line 1.

TheGame wrote:Why are we worse. Two reasons: Duhon and MDA. Duhon sucks, and MDA refuses to play his best players heavy minutes. This team should be at worst 7-9, but MDA keeps sitting Darko and Douglas on the bench, while guys like Duhon and Jeffries are getting major minutes.

douglas, yes. Darko, no. Curry, yes (when not hurt)

emateo wrote:
In my opinion, given the fact that where the team is struggling as a whole mostly is in FG %, i'd say that our main problem is our offense. Most guys are just not hitting shots, and when that happens it affects your whole game. They're shooting too many 3's, but then again they are getting decent looks. They seem to be trying to put an effort, Although they lack talent, with the roster we got we shouldn't be 3-13.
So who's at blame here??
Well i think the biggest mistake so far this season has been to eliminate morning shootarounds. i mean how can we afford with the level of mediocre talent and young players we have to eliminate such an important structure of the teams development. Coaching and training staff are either too naive or too stupid to assume this cats are going to take full advantage of this and use it as a positive tool. If we were a veteran team, with a good foundation then it could make sense, but with these bunch of knuckleheads what can we expect. If anything now that they don't have to wake up early to do their morning routines, it gives them an incentive to party hard and drink and what ever as they could sleep it off the next morning. Come on man its the perfect recipe for disaster! Its called bad time management, an its definitely affecting their game, especially their shooting. You cant give kids too much time in their hands, they wont know how to us it.
So why are we worse this year?
Young players + Mediocre Players + NO Morning shootarounds + Time Mismanagement = Loss of focus, laziness, disorganization--- 3-13 etc.....

no emateo.

the problem is much simpler:

1. any system (not MDA's system, but systems in general) levies its success more on the connections between it's members than on the individual talents of any given member.

2. team chemistry, or the connections between members, are worse this year then ever

3. team chemistry is worse this year because of the abundance of veterans and contract year players that have no well-defined role nor interest in the future of the knicks.

1. 2. 3.-- that's why we're worse this year.