TMS wrote:i'd pass on Rudy Gay if it's gonna take a near max level contract to sign him... if i can't get Lebron or Wade, i go hard after either Bosh or Amare, sign some secondary tier level contract veteran & other role players, & keep my flexibility open to go after Melo in 2011. (this is assuming we have the cap space to sign 2 max FA's this offseason to begin with)

this 2010 free agent class has you name struck. not that imma fan of signing rudy but there are ways to rebuild this team into a contender with other players besides the 03 draft class and the one who got away in 02.

Gay and Gallo 3/4 at 24 and 22 for the next 5-7 years is a much better step at building a contender then throwing money at 30 year 2nd tier players like Bosh and JJ.

I'm serious not even about names at this point, Walsh should be about building a team. Not selling jerseys. Get Mike a team that can grow with Gallo.

TMS wrote:

McK1 wrote:

TMS wrote:i'd pass on Rudy Gay if it's gonna take a near max level contract to sign him... if i can't get Lebron or Wade, i go hard after either Bosh or Amare, sign some secondary tier level contract veteran & other role players, & keep my flexibility open to go after Melo in 2011. (this is assuming we have the cap space to sign 2 max FA's this offseason to begin with)

this 2010 free agent class has you name struck. not that imma fan of signing rudy but there are ways to rebuild this team into a contender with other players besides the 03 draft class and the one who got away in 02.

well if ur not a fan of Rudy what are u contesting me on?

the closemindedness.

I haven't seen the guy play since uconn but his stats are fairly impressive. The only red flags i see is his averaging more turnovers than assists, and that he hasn't seemed to take a step forward since his second year in the league. The last few years are pretty similar stat-wise, but pretty good stats overall. Just low assist numbers.

Would I overpay for him? Yes, I would. I don't know if I'd offer the max, but this would be a very creative move for Donnie. If he can extend a max offer to Gay he might be able to entice a LeBron to join. To do that he will need to clear more salary.

My thinking on free agency is that Wade would never consider nyc in a million years. It's either Miami or Chicago for him. LeBron is the only other FA i'd really crave. Bosh and Amare and Joe Johnson are #3, #4, #5 respectively. I would Put Rudy Gay in that second tier, probably even ahead of Joe Johnson.

oohah wrote:Overpaying for Rudy Gay would be Allan Houston all over again -- but for a player who is not as good.

oohah

houston                                 FG%  3P%
1993 age22 8.5pts 1.4ft 1.2ast 1.5rebs .405 .299
1994 age23 14.5pts 2.3ft 2.2ast 2.2rebs .463 .424
1995 age24 19.7pts 4.4fts 3ast 3.7rebs .453 .427	
1996 age25 14.8pts 2.7fts 2.2ast 3rebs .423 .385  	

Gay
Year  	FG%  	3P%    RPG  APG  PPG   AGE
06-07 0.422 	0.364  4.5  1.3  10.8  20
07-08 0.461 	0.346  6.2  2.0  20.1  21
08-09 0.453 	0.351  5.5  1.7  18.9  22
09-10 0.506 	0.355  6.8  2.0  21.5  23

Allen Houston 100million 7years
Rudy Gay At most is what 5years 80million................

TMS wrote:

McK1 wrote:

TMS wrote:

McK1 wrote:

TMS wrote:i'd pass on Rudy Gay if it's gonna take a near max level contract to sign him... if i can't get Lebron or Wade, i go hard after either Bosh or Amare, sign some secondary tier level contract veteran & other role players, & keep my flexibility open to go after Melo in 2011. (this is assuming we have the cap space to sign 2 max FA's this offseason to begin with)

this 2010 free agent class has you name struck. not that imma fan of signing rudy but there are ways to rebuild this team into a contender with other players besides the 03 draft class and the one who got away in 02.

well if ur not a fan of Rudy what are u contesting me on?

the closemindedness.

how is stating my preference being closeminded? so u'd rather go out & sign Rudy Gay to a near max level deal then Bosh or Amare? do u think Gay & some secondary level FA's along w/our young guys are a championship type core? i don't... say u spend the bulk of ur cap space on locking up Gay longterm... who are u gonna sign to put around him to make your team? u wanna trade for Monta Ellis?

IMO if we signed Chris Bosh or Amare to a contract in 2010 (assuming we don't get Lebron) & then nabbed Melo in 2011, that we'd be a legitimate championship contender, & be a lot more likely to win a title than we would if we went after guys like Rudy Gay & Monta Ellis... yeah, i know there's more than 1 way to build a champion, but IMO Bosh + Melo is a better bet to win titles than Gay + ?

Why is melo terminating his deal when his team should be in the Western conference finals for two or threes with Billups?? I get the Lbj situation with New York, the media and the money. But now every star in the league has secret Nike deal money for playing in NY???

I think wanting all these guys to leave champion contenders is a pipe dream at this point. We have a 20win team that is going to let 75 percent of it's roster walk, with no first round pick.

Who says Gallo is ready in 2-3years to be starting on a title team. What about hill??? Is he going to put it together before a Stoudimare/bosh hits 33. Or is Melo plus Bosh suppose carry a bunch of 24 year olds and walk-ons to contender stasis??? Pixie Dust and Unicorn farts if you ask me.

Anji wrote:Pixie Dust and Unicorn farts if you ask me.

Unicorn farts are all the rage on this site nowadays:

oohah

TMS wrote:

Anji wrote:Why are we signing Bosh and Melo??? is Bosh and Ellis a title team????

Why is melo terminating his deal when his team should be in the Western conference finals for two or threes with Billups?? I get the Lbj situation with New York, the media and the money. But now every star in the league has secret Nike deal money for playing in NY???

I think wanting all these guys to leave champion contenders is a pipe dream at this point. We have a 20win team that is going to let 75 percent of it's roster walk, with no first round pick.

Who says Gallo is ready in 2-3years to be starting on a title team. What about hill??? Is he going to put it together before a Stoudimare/bosh hits 33. Or is Melo plus Bosh suppose carry a bunch of 24 year olds and walk-ons to contender stasis??? Pixie Dust and Unicorn farts if you ask me.

i don't even get the point of that post... so what do u propose we do then & what do u expect to happen in this offseason when free agency hits & we have all this cap space to play with?

I want a solid plan.

I expect everybody but Bosh to resign and if Donnie is a good Gm he should too. Because you are going to have to search for a while to find the last time a team that finished in the 8 of the nba lost its best player. Banking on contending teams stars is a waste, even before you add that the Knicks are probably a 20 win team.

We need to start thinking about building a team at this point.