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See the numbers for yourself, why does MDA keep playing Chris Duhon, someone please explain, why????
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emateo
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11/26/2009  2:51 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/26/2009  3:58 AM
The real problem here is MDA, not Dudu, he is just pure garbage. What i don't understand is why the F*** MDA keeps playing him. Its been 15 games and you can see the stats for your self. I keep hearing MDA at the press conferences talking about he is still looking for the right players, and that he is going to play those who prove want it more OK Thats FIne logic to me. But why the F*** he keep STARING DUHON or playing him at all for that matter. Its obvious T Douglas is out playing this drunk by far just by looking at the FG% TD is shooting more than double Duhons %, and thats playing less than half the mins Dudu plays. TD is even dishing out the same amount of APG given his lack of mins and to top it off his scoring more than Dudu caca... Its one thing to loose games when you know your coach and players are trying their hardest, but to see this lack of common sense from MDA just blows my mind. NO matter how you look at it 'does not make sense. For that matter why the hell did they not sign AI, i thought we were going to develop our young's, especially if they are out performing the starters. Its just frustrating to see what was once a great franchise be mismanaged the way it is. I know many would argue that we cant judge MDA, until 2010 and i can agree to a certain extent, but what concerns me the most is how stubborn he is. I don't know what the love affair with dudu is, but it would certainly be nice to see MDA get on Dudu's face for playing so F***ing pathetic, just like he did to Nate at the Sacramento game, oops! correction BLOWOUT!

I think its time to start booing Dudu, and chan "WAIVE CRIS DUDU TA TA TA-TA-TA", at every home game when he comes in. Maybe MDA will finally get it!!!

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Player G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
Al Harrington 14 2 31.1 .443 .282 .855 1.10 4.80 5.90 1.4 1.21 .36 2.36 3.30 19.1
David Lee 14 14 32.6 .530 .000 .734 2.30 7.40 9.70 2.6 1.21 .43 2.43 3.40 17.2
Danilo Gallinari14 12 29.2 .455 .447 .857 .60 3.60 4.20 1.5 .79 .64 1.36 2.20 14.0
Larry Hughes 12 9 33.5 .419 .283 .789 .80 3.30 4.10 4.1 2.08 .67 1.67 2.50 12.6
Wilson Chandler 14 14 33.0 .395 .217 .893 1.60 4.00 5.60 1.7 .50 1.21 1.71 3.60 12.2
Nate Robinson 8 0 21.5 .366 .333 .636 .60 1.30 1.90 3.3 .75 .38 1.63 2.40 8.9
Toney Douglas 13 2 14.6 .512 .379 .833 .20 .80 1.10 .6 .38 .00 .85 1.50 8.0
Chris Duhon 14 14 34.5 .241 .200 .813 .30 2.90 3.20 6.2 1.21 .07 1.93 1.40 6.4

Eddy Curry 4 0 11.5 .389 .000 .538 1.00 1.50 2.50 .0 .00 .00 2.75 2.00 5.3
Jordan Hill 7 0 7.7 .636 .000 .800 1.10 .60 1.70 .3 .43 .43 .71 1.60 4.6
Jared Jeffries 13 3 19.7 .410 .300 .556 1.20 1.70 2.80 1.4 .54 .77 1.15 2.20 3.1
Marcus Landry 4 0 5.5 .500 .250 .000 .50 .50 1.00 .0 .00 .00 .00 .80 2.3
Darko Milicic 8 0 8.9 .471 .000 .000 .60 1.60 2.30 .5 .50 .13 .25 .90 2.0
Team Averages 14 0 247.1 .433 .312 .789 9.6 30.4 40.0 21.1 8.5 4.5 15.5 22.9 100.6
Opponents 14 0 247.1 .486 .332 .765 10.9 36.9 47.9 21.0 7.4 4.6 17.8 20.4 107.4
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emateo
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11/26/2009  2:55 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/26/2009  3:56 AM
Sorry about the Stat layout, but it got all discombobulated when it posted. i guess its a newbie mistake. my bad...

Ok its fixed now.

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11/26/2009  3:15 AM
Nobody has bitched more than me about Duhon....I'm bout to organize a march on 33rd and 7th.
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11/26/2009  9:28 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/26/2009  9:29 AM
Playing Duhon is the one enigma we can't figure out. We figure that Hill isn't playing cause we want to play Jeffries and Curry to dump their contracts.

Regarding Douglas, I am all for giving him minutes but I think he has a problem distributing the ball. He is averaging like one assist per outing, so you are way off in comparing his assist numbers to Duhons. Douglas creates for himself pretty good but in fairness his assist numbers should be better as people aren't hitting their shots.

I don't get why D'Antoni doesn't order Douglas to just drive and if there is no shot, to kick it out, as he can get by people where as Duhon, for the most part, can't.

With A.I., he is notoriously bad when it comes to feeding centers. That is all I can figure, well that and his attitude. Before I bring him in I'd give Douglas the minutes. What is scary is that had we drafted Jennings, we probably wouldn't be seeing what he can do...

Nate should be getting the start over Duhon as well.

What do we have to lose be letting Douglas play 20 to 35 minutes a game from here onout and TO START IN PLACE OF DUHON?

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11/26/2009  9:40 AM
i think he do this because he use duhon as crowd control leader on court and in locker room, so he have to stick with his guy, because no one else on team can take this role because they all knuckleheads. duhon suck but he no knucklehead, he steady hand. this why.

you give mda someone that do this role good, duhon gone drop of a hat

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11/26/2009  10:35 AM
earthmansurfer wrote:Playing Duhon is the one enigma we can't figure out. We figure that Hill isn't playing cause we want to play Jeffries and Curry to dump their contracts.

Regarding Douglas, I am all for giving him minutes but I think he has a problem distributing the ball. He is averaging like one assist per outing, so you are way off in comparing his assist numbers to Duhons. Douglas creates for himself pretty good but in fairness his assist numbers should be better as people aren't hitting their shots.

I don't get why D'Antoni doesn't order Douglas to just drive and if there is no shot, to kick it out, as he can get by people where as Duhon, for the most part, can't.

With A.I., he is notoriously bad when it comes to feeding centers. That is all I can figure, well that and his attitude. Before I bring him in I'd give Douglas the minutes. What is scary is that had we drafted Jennings, we probably wouldn't be seeing what he can do...

Nate should be getting the start over Duhon as well.

What do we have to lose be letting Douglas play 20 to 35 minutes a game from here onout and TO START IN PLACE OF DUHON?


Yeah- you have to wonder how Jennings would have fit in with us, but maybe he would have "wowed" MDA and Walsh enough in SL and pre-season to make the change from Duhon early on.

The Catch-22 of all this is that by giving certain players enough playing time to showcase their "abilities" for a possible trade, their poor play may be hindering our chances of getting rid of them, as well as retarding the growth of some of our younger guys. The only player on our team with an expiring contract who has enhanced his value to another team is Hughes, IMO.

By deciding to go with the young guys through hell or high water, we are actually saying that yes, we might conceivably do better with the vets playing more, but we have decided that it is time to evaluate our young players, and are willing to put up with their inconsistencies, win or lose.

Jeffries, Harrington, Nate, Duhon, and even Lee have well known talents/defects by this time in their careers. Trying to play them so other teams see their value makes little sense to me. Curry may be a different story, but we have to wait and see with him.

Playing Lee at center is simply idiotic at this point, and forces us to play a zone to cover up his weakness as an interior defender and Duhon's weakness as a perimeter defender.

I would give these guys 30-35 MPG guaranteed:
Douglas
Gallo (at SF AND PF)
Chandler (at SG and SF)
Hill

I would give Landry 20-25MPG for a 20 game span to see if he is more than a 12th man, and increase or decrease his minutes according to how he has played after those 20 games.

I don't care how the other minutes are handed out. You have 240 MPG to use in a game. Give the guys above their minimum minutes (30x4 +20) and you have 100 minutes to spread out to the others. Give them their max minutes (35x 4 + 25) and you have 75MPG to divide among Hughes, Lee, Nate, Curry, etc. If Landry does not show promise, reduce his minutes and you have even more minutes for the vets.

It simply makes no sense to continue playing the rotation we are now putting out on the floor.

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11/26/2009  10:53 AM
duhon is an embarrassment. mike is an embarrassment for playing him. if the only hope for the season is duhon getting it together we have no hope.
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11/26/2009  6:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/26/2009  6:23 PM
the differences are even more stark when u compare Hill's #'s to Fishlips compared to minutes played

Jordan Hill	 7	 0	 7.7	 .636	 .000	 .800	 1.10	 .60	 1.70	 .3	 .43	 .43	 .71	 1.60	 4.6
Jared Jeffries 13 3 19.7 .410 .300 .556 1.20 1.70 2.80 1.4 .54 .77 1.15 2.20 3.1
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11/26/2009  6:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/26/2009  6:27 PM
Paladin55 wrote:The Catch-22 of all this is that by giving certain players enough playing time to showcase their "abilities" for a possible trade, their poor play may be hindering our chances of getting rid of them, as well as retarding the growth of some of our younger guys. The only player on our team with an expiring contract who has enhanced his value to another team is Hughes, IMO.

in the case of Al Harrington, D Lee, Nate & Hughes i can understand playing those guys... they produce & they all have tradeable expiring contracts... Curry u have to play to try & raise his trade value, & we all know he does have skills in the low post... why Jeffries continues to see regular minutes is a serious headscratcher... the more he plays, the more he shows just how unproductive he is on the floor... same goes w/Duhon this season (last year i thought he played well for what we were paying him, tho some of u might disagree w/me)

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See the numbers for yourself, why does MDA keep playing Chris Duhon, someone please explain, why????

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